Jinglejangle69 wrote: » It's a good day for the greens, soc dems, Labour, pbp etc. SF, FG, FF it's not. Treating the electorate like idiots.
FrancieBrady wrote: » ...you say that after the day today? Read back the thread there...some embarrassing stuff from the usual us'es.
Marine Layer wrote: » Now I doubt anyone gets embarrassed in these threads For some it's a job,some an obsession, others a curiosity,some an interest,some out of boredom etc etc But for everyone it's anonymous
Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: » Thought this was a non-story from the start. That's why I never commented. SF have much bigger and more shinnister issues going on than this.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » The fact you're just delighted that the other parties have been shown up to have done what SF have done sums it up. You're not annoyed about the parties treating us like fools. Just happy it's not just SF. All you care about is the optics of SF. Nothing else. Purely political. Never in the best interests of the country and its citizens.
Marine Layer wrote: » because I'm not vested in these threads
elperello wrote: » Most of all it's a bad day for democracy. Political parties are supposed to serve the interests of the electorate not abuse their trust.
jm08 wrote: » I don't understand why people are so uptight about what they are doing. From the form that they were using as the questionnaire, the info they colleceted about who they were going to vote for and to prioritise what were their issues (jobs, education, housing, health etc). These were just tick boxes. There was also a box asking what age group they were in. Their name, address, phone no. etc were not taken, so basically the polls were anonymous (but good to know that the politicians actually knew what the issues were in the area). How else are they to know whats on the general public's minds.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Always around to wag the finger though.
elperello wrote: » We know from their own spokesman that one of the parties issued false id's identifying the party members as employees of a fictitious polling company. That is misrepresentation and a betrayal of the trust that should exist between politicians and the electorate. If that is not enough to make people uptight I fear for the future of politics in this country.
jm08 wrote: » Do you not see the benefits though of politicians having such information where the answers are not 'lead' because of who is asking the questions. Any time I answer the door to a canvasser that I know what party they are from, Im influenced by what I think of them as a party. For instance, if a FG canvasser called to the door and asked me what the issues were, I'd probably tear into them for how they have treated Kate O'Connell and why have they put Geoghegan forward, whereas if an anonyomous poller asked me what my issues were, I'd tell them what my real concerns are (housing, climate change, brexit, health etc. etc.
Fann Linn wrote: » This is mad Ted. Mc Sharry has now just called on MM to make a statement regarding FG 'abuse' of democracy by 'pollsters' and has also called on MM to resign himself over the same issue re FF. Lots of lads wetting themselves earlier when this broke are now having to eat some humble pie.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » How are the polls anonymous when the pollster records the address and answers given by each household???
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Are you not more bothered by what SF, FG and FF have done? Conned people. Or are you just delighted it's not only SF?
FrancieBrady wrote: » For gawds sake! Political shenanigans elperello...not the end of civilisation as we know it. Akin to faking an injury on the football field. Why people who support FG and FF piled on to this and other 'scoops' about SF really eludes me. Have they no awareness of what went on in this state since independence and that it was highly likely they were at it as well? If it was for electoral purposes it is nothing more than people outside polling booths or flopping over in the penalty area. Silly when you are caught at it. Sillier still when your Minister (Harris) climbs up onto the high moral ground just as you are admitting to doing the same thing.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I reckon O'Broin adamantly saying he knew other parties did this forced them all to come clean. Another hilarious episode it has to be said.
Ronin247 wrote: » Does this make him a tout?
FrancieBrady wrote: » There are commemorations/anniversaries every day Doc, that is the tragedy of conflict/war. You carry on selecting and watching to see if there is the appropriate comment and be ready to get in a political huff about it. Lovely.
Deleted User wrote: » The Garda Representative Association pulls no punches.https://twitter.com/gardarep/status/1401708195475865600?s=21
markodaly wrote: » Tell us, what 'War' was the Gardai involved in Limerick, 1996? That murder was nothing else but murder. Trying to dress it up as some sort of conflict between nations is disgusting.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No, just somebody who in my eyes broaches no bull****. He immediately accepted they did it and quite rightly (even though the media who interviewed him tried to make it an exclusively Shinister event) pointed out it was standard practice. Anyone reading that story from the bould Philip Ryan would want to have been very naïve not to realise they all did this just like the GDPR stuff. As I said...want to know if a 'journalist' has an agenda...study his due diligence.