blanch152 wrote: » I don't want to ever live in a society where some thugs can hold a threat of violence over others. Another reason that a united Ireland is further away than many think.
Bambi wrote: » And yet you constantly trot out the threat of loaylists blowing us up if they dont get their way as an argument against a united Ireland Weird, eh?
blanch152 wrote: » Ah yes, the old threat of the old republicans, be nice to us or we might blow you up. Last century thinking.
guy2231 wrote: » I would have no problem with the former IRA army council overseeing Sinn Fein and helping them towards taking power in Ireland which they are on the way to achieving, I have trust in what used to be the army council, I guess now it is just a council. A couple of alleged former army council members only retired from Sinn Fein in the last couple of years.
jm08 wrote: » Just face facts Blanch - there are dissident republicans who do not support the GFA and the fewer of them there are, the better it is for all the people of Northern Ireland.
blanch152 wrote: » In this case, it is a non-State actor doing the threatening, but you are ok with it?
blanch152 wrote: » Ok, poster suggests that secret cabal outside this jurisdiction is controlling political party within this jurisdiction, and your reaction is "what does it matter"? Seriously, dude?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Isn't that what aircraft carriers are for when they moor off your coast?
FrancieBrady wrote: » What does it matter if there is a 'council'? We who voted for the GFA encouraged the IRA to get involved in democratic politics. They di...and people still want to exclude them.
jm08 wrote: » The peace is being maintained by keeping them involved in the political process. Exclude them and they may become disillusioned with the process and become dissident republicans.
Deleted User wrote: » It’s mad how Gerry Adams, Mary Lou, and O’Neill were all the only nominees. Listen, Francie, we all know the truth of it. Adams, Howell, (the late Storey), Murphy etc decide who is leader, they get nominated, and then the useful gombeens in the cumanns give a gloss coat of democracy to the entire charade. The only question now is Mary Lou a member of the council? Was it Mary Lou who decided that Martina Anderson had to go for example, or was that a decision made by the lads?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Is she? You seem very rattled Francie which is very odd given you claim not to be a SF supporter.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The poster asked was Mary Lou a member of this 'council'...keep up with the thread.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » it very much was personal Francie. I thought you were better than that. I have no idea what a Shinisteristcs is but i presume you think it makes you look clever and witty to say it.
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » The CCP membership also didn't overrule Xi Jinping at its national congress. After all, what's the point of overruling when there isn't a choice? Incidentally, What were the numbers voting in favour of Mary Lou at that special Ard fheis - seeing as you know FG numbers, surely you must also know the equivalent transparent number for SF? FG does use an electoral college voting system; If you want to make a point about that, how about adding another about how Michael Martin is Taoiseach with FF getting only 22% of the popular vote. Still is vastly more democratically transparent than the Chinese Communist Party system adopted by SF to designate its leaders.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » what does that have to do with them picking the leadership of SF?
FrancieBrady wrote: » If the cap fits etc etc. The Shinisteristcs have form in not believing what SF say Nowt personal really.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » what does that have to do with the post you quoted?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » why wouldn't they? why the lack of transparency? no need to get personal francie.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I don't think the membership vote was over-ruled at the SF Ard Fheis, if you can show it was, work away. Over 7000 members of FG's choice were ignored in favour of the choice of just over 3000 (Just to set the record straight here)
FrancieBrady wrote: » The relevant monitors say the 'army' is eclusively committed to peace and democratic means. Tough for you that the Shinisteristic stuff no longer works. New tack required Doc.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Why would they have to?
FrancieBrady wrote: » You wouldnt believe them anyway.
[Deleted User] wrote: » It’s mad how Gerry Adams, Mary Lou, and O’Neill were all the only nominees. Listen, Francie, we all know the truth of it. Adams, Howell, (the late Storey), Murphy etc decide who is leader, they get nominated, and then the useful gombeens in the cumanns give a gloss coat of democracy to the entire charade. The only question now is Mary Lou a member of the council? Was it Mary Lou who decided that Martina Anderson had to go for example, or was that a decision made by the lads?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » great but we were discussing the deputy leader election and the refusal by SF to release the results.
