REAP Scheme application

Paulmclad · 29-05-2021 1:33pm #1

On the FAQ page for the REAP scheme on gov dot ie, they say approval letters would issue in May.
Has anyone received an approval letter yet?

893bet · 29-05-2021 2:34pm

Nothing here

mr.stonewall · 29-05-2021 5:40pm

Just saw agfood is to be down tomorrow morning from 8am to noon. Wondering is this something to do with it

roosky · 01-06-2021 12:11am

There’s over 10,000 apply for about 2,000 places so department are trying to find more places so maybe that’s the delay in offers

clonagh · 04-06-2021 10:18pm

Offer letters were posted today apparently...

SuperTortoise · 08-06-2021 5:16pm

Just got my one in the post.

grassroot1 · 08-06-2021 5:27pm

Advisor rang me I am not in

Tileman · 08-06-2021 6:38pm

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Just got my one in the post.

Presume u mean u got offer to join?

When does it start from?

SuperTortoise · 08-06-2021 7:13pm

Tileman wrote: »

Presume u mean u got offer to join?

When does it start from?

Yeah an acceptance letter, if you want to opt out you have to contact them, just had a quick glance at the leaflet they sent out, as far as I can tell the scheme is active now but you have until the 15th June to opt out. I'll have a proper read of it tonight.

893bet · 09-06-2021 11:11pm

Got my acceptance letter today! Happy enough!

Paulmclad · 10-06-2021 6:48am

I got my acceptance letter on Tuesday there too, looking forward to getting started.

Bullocks · 10-06-2021 7:25am

Got an acceptance letter yesterday

Sami23 · 10-06-2021 10:04am

Bullocks wrote: »

Got an acceptance letter yesterday

What actions are lads generally signing up for

Bullocks · 10-06-2021 10:19am

Sami23 wrote: »

What actions are lads generally signing up for

I haven't a clue to be honest. I rang the advisor yesterday to see what he reckoned and what costs would be and most importantly how much I could put clear into my pocket every year out of it.
He didn't answer but I'm sure he will get back to me.
I'll let ye know if I go in what measures I'll doing

893bet · 10-06-2021 11:16am

Be interesting to see what the agri advisors charge. I see them charging the most if the 1200 participation payment.

I hope to plant 80 metres of hedge (around my house!). 6 plants a meter will yield a serous fence! After that I don’t expect to input much cash. It will be the low input pasture option I will be pursuing. Don’t do any spraying it topping, spread minimal N and it’s should yield an average payment.

kerb · 10-06-2021 4:09pm

Didn't get a letter yet to pusume I'm not accepted

jntsnk · 15-06-2021 12:06pm

grassroot1 wrote: »

Advisor rang me I am not in

Did he charge you anything then ?

Dunedin · 15-06-2021 12:52pm

893bet wrote: »

. It will be the low input pasture option I will be pursuing. Don’t do any spraying it topping, spread minimal N and it’s should yield an average payment.

Is topping allowed after a certain date similar to GLAS?

I haven’t read up on the Reaps yet as I’m still in glas for another year. How do the payments fare against glas - more or less or is it too early to say?

893bet · 15-06-2021 2:48pm

Dunedin wrote: »

Is topping allowed after a certain date similar to GLAS?

I haven’t read up on the Reaps yet as I’m still in glas for another year. How do the payments fare against glas - more or less or is it too early to say?

Topping is allowed any time but will likely impact the payment as there will be a less diverse sward. There is a bonus payment of 50 per Ha for late meadow cutting. Harmless enough.

No idea on payment question.

clonagh · 15-06-2021 6:06pm

You can top at any time but the adviser told me to wait until he had done his visit, otherwise he won't be able to indentify the various grass species...

893bet · 16-06-2021 9:34am

clonagh wrote: »

You can top at any time but the adviser told me to wait until he had done his visit, otherwise he won't be able to indentify the various grass species...

Same as that.

You can also spray any time. But again it will mean your score will be very low as it will reduce the diversity of the sward.

Same with the hedge row. You can cut and manage every year. But it will limit the score you get.

All results based.

cuculainn · 23-06-2021 11:16am

So has anyone met their planner yet?

is there any truth in that alot of those that were accepted are not joining?

clonagh · 23-06-2021 12:07pm

is there any truth in that alot of those that were accepted are not joining?[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't be surprised, been talking to my planner on the phone a coupleof times and expect him out next week but he's being very pessimistic about it...

jntsnk · 23-06-2021 12:10pm

cuculainn wrote: »

So has anyone met their planner yet?

is there any truth in that alot of those that were accepted are not joining?

I would believe it.
I was all out to applying for it and had been in contact with my advisor to do so, then read all the requirements etc...when they came out, just couldn’t be bothered for such small money after tax.
It needs to be double the make any financial sense

roosky · 24-06-2021 12:17am

cuculainn wrote: »

So has anyone met their planner yet?

is there any truth in that alot of those that were accepted are not joining?

Trying to get my planner out ASAP so i can top and spray and do all the things im not supposed to

On the point of accepted people dropping out, i was giving a neighbor a hand at silage last week and there was four farmers there helping, all of us were accepted but I'm the only one that is going ahead with it....doesn't suit the other farmers

I have a 11 ha rented out farm that is exactly what they are looking for so its no effort for me to comply with the scheme.....the money is harmless if you had much to do for it !

cuculainn · 24-06-2021 8:41am

roosky wrote: »

Trying to get my planner out ASAP so i can top and spray and do all the things im not supposed to

On the point of accepted people dropping out, i was giving a neighbor a hand at silage last week and there was four farmers there helping, all of us were accepted but I'm the only one that is going ahead with it....doesn't suit the other farmers

I have a 11 ha rented out farm that is exactly what they are looking for so its no effort for me to comply with the scheme.....the money is harmless if you had much to do for it !

From my point of view I think the only major outlay/work would be the perimeter fence....and I think that has to be by 15th july

bt12 · 30-06-2021 9:32pm

Anyone have their advisor out yet for farm walk?

893bet · 30-06-2021 9:48pm

bt12 wrote: »

Anyone have their advisor out yet for farm walk?

No. There are some videos on the website. And the scorecard. I see a 4/10 being hard enough get

clonagh · 01-07-2021 10:19am

bt12 wrote: »

Anyone have their advisor out yet for farm walk?

I think they were doing their final days training yesterday (on farms) so I expect the farm visits to start soon.

roosky · 01-07-2021 5:55pm

Had my advisor out today to check the plant species.....surprising how much variety there in when you go looking. There is some of the ground that would get a bit of slurry each year and it wasnt as diverse so wont get full payment on that.....seems like the less you do, the more you get !!!

I see the planting trees option is €9.20 per tree or €15.80 per meter of hedging, does anyone know what the cost of doing these would be, i dont really need either but would squeeze another few pound out of the scheme if it was worth the hassle!

Hard Knocks · 01-07-2021 6:07pm

roosky wrote: »

Had my advisor out today to check the plant species.....surprising how much variety there in when you go looking. There is some of the ground that would get a bit of slurry each year and it wasnt as diverse so wont get full payment on that.....seems like the less you do, the more you get !!!

I see the planting trees option is €9.20 per tree or €15.80 per meter of hedging, does anyone know what the cost of doing these would be, i dont really need either but would squeeze another few pound out of the scheme if it was worth the hassle!

I think whitethorn slips were €0.50 each & try to get 4 per meter

FarmerBrowne · 01-07-2021 10:26pm

I dont know who this scheme suits really, hard to imagine heavily stocked farms interested. The small part time farmer that was probably a great customer for Glas is in for a shock when they read the small print on this. If some farmers had to keep a 4 meter margin in some fields in the west of Ireland they would be as well to forget about what area is left in the field and close the gap. I know a few farmers who will have kittens when they hear about the margins required.

893bet · 01-07-2021 10:44pm

There are no margins required. It’s optional to increase your score.

FarmerBrowne · 01-07-2021 10:50pm

But if you dont go with the margins are you not going way down the pay scale?

893bet · 01-07-2021 11:05pm

FarmerBrowne wrote: »

But if you dont go with the margins are you not going way down the pay scale?

With no margin the most you can get is an 8/10 which is 350/400 per Ha.

tanko · 01-07-2021 11:18pm

893bet wrote: »

With no margin the most you can get is an 8/10 which is 350/400 per Ha.

Are these figures correct? €350-€400 per hectare per year?
It sounds like a great scheme to me.

zetor 4911 · 02-07-2021 3:28pm

893bet wrote: »

With no margin the most you can get is an 8/10 which is 350/400 per Ha.

It depends on the number of positive indicator plants in the field if there are more than 9 then you have a possibility of getting away without the margins. But to get these positive indicators it would need to be land getting no slurry/bag manure and never got any sprays.Most will have to put in margins to get any decent payment.

roosky · 02-07-2021 3:31pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

I think whitethorn slips were €0.50 each & try to get 4 per meter

And what fencing do i need either side of that hedge ? Is it like a meter space or anything

clonagh · 02-07-2021 3:34pm

roosky wrote: »

And what fencing do i need either side of that hedge ? Is it like a meter space or anything

Fencing requiremets are on page 26 of the handbook .

893bet · 02-07-2021 4:10pm

zetor 4911 wrote: »

It depends on the number of positive indicator plants in the field if there are more than 9 then you have a possibility of getting away without the margins. But to get these positive indicators it would need to be land getting no slurry/bag manure and never got any sprays.Most will have to put in margins to get any decent payment.

The way I see it a 4-5 is the best thing to aim for. The most money for the least effort. 250-300 per ha. The effort to get to 350-400 will be more than it worth for 10ha (an extra 1000 or so).

Young95 · 03-07-2021 12:45pm

zetor 4911 wrote: »

It depends on the number of positive indicator plants in the field if there are more than 9 then you have a possibility of getting away without the margins. But to get these positive indicators it would need to be land getting no slurry/bag manure and never got any sprays.Most will have to put in margins to get any decent payment.

What exactly are indicators? Are thistles and nettles counted in that category?

893bet · 03-07-2021 1:43pm

Young95 wrote: »

What exactly are indicators? Are thistles and nettles counted in that category?

Yes.......as negative indicators ....

Young95 · 03-07-2021 2:48pm

893bet wrote: »

Yes.......as negative indicators ....

You don’t get penalties on them so ?

893bet · 03-07-2021 2:50pm

Young95 wrote: »

You don’t get penalties on them so ?

If there in large number you will get dock marks.

clonagh · 05-07-2021 12:34pm

Hoping to get the bonus payment for cutting my meadow after the 1st July. It's now the 05th of July but my Reap Advisor won't get to do his assessment for another 2 weeks or so. After the heavy rain at the weekend the meadow is starting to lodge so I'm anxious to get it cut during the next dry spell. The advisor said he's waiting for clarification from the dept. on whether I can cut before his visit. Anyone else have this problem? There's a good chance the scheme won't suit me anyway so all this waiting might be in vain...

Hard Knocks · 05-07-2021 2:01pm

clonagh wrote: »

Hoping to get the bonus payment for cutting my meadow after the 1st July. It's now the 05th of July but my Reap Advisor won't get to do his assessment for another 2 weeks or so. After the heavy rain at the weekend the meadow is starting to lodge so I'm anxious to get it cut during the next dry spell. The advisor said he's waiting for clarification from the dept. on whether I can cut before his visit. Anyone else have this problem? There's a good chance the scheme won't suit me anyway so all this waiting might be in vain...

That’s a bit lousey
You’d think in this age s/he would ask you to take a few pics if timing is an issue

893bet · 05-07-2021 3:30pm

I think you can take an image and geo tag it no?

roosky · 05-07-2021 10:30pm

893bet wrote: »

I think you can take an image and geo tag it no?

No you can’t I asked adviser the same today and he said it needs to be taken with the advisors app on their phone so it can be policed

893bet · 05-07-2021 10:51pm

That’s ridiculous so really. It’s either geo tagged or it’s not.

If the advisors are supposed to view it at cutting then what’s the point of the geo tag.

893bet · 05-07-2021 10:52pm

Are you sure that the advisors does t have to upload it using the app later?

roosky · 06-07-2021 10:25am

ya its a bit mad like I sent in geo tagged photos last year to DAFM and there was no issue.... the logic is that the advisor logs in to do your farm walk and all pictures are in the one location and saved under the correct location.

Biggest issue is that advisors are overwhelmed with the number of farmers they need to get to.

Just remember that its €300 for the visit so you have right to put pressure on your advisor, he/she isn't doing you a favor out of the good of their heart.

REAP Scheme application

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