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Faugheen wrote: »

What does your point have to do with anything I have said, then?

You've spoken about skin colour not being the issue, when I was responding to a post where the poster made an assumption about someone based on their skin colour.

Now you're trying to move away from that clearly and throw something at me that I never referenced.

Distract, deflect, deny, dismiss. Go away.

You are the one deflecting. Even if the assumption based of the skin colour is wrong it's still a very minor issue. Even if the poster is racist, it's still a minor issue.
The big issue is racially homogenous gangs fighting and these gangs are made of people from a very small community. If this problem is not acknowledged it will only get worse. For everyone involved, especially for the said community.

And please don't put me in my place.

Faugheen wrote: »

What would you call that? Should we assume all black people are foreigners, then?
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I don't see why not, until actual evidence to the contrary arises. It's not racist to do so, but rather common sense, due to the demographics of the country.

The population of Black people in Ireland is only at 1.4 %.

[Irish 82.2%, Irish travelers 0.7%, other white 9.5%, Asian 2.1%, black 1.4%, other 1.5%, unspecified 2.6%]

Ireland is still a predominately white nation. If you saw some white people fighting would you automatically assume that they were Irish? even though they could be Polish (other white at 9.5%).

TomTomTim wrote: »

You've a great habit of putting words in peoples mouths, something the honest don't need to do. I think you know though, deep down, that we'd deport every native Irish scumbag too if we could. It's suit you to ignore this though, so you can keep banging your "racism" drum.

That poster made an assumption about someone based on their skin colour.

What would you call that? Should we assume all black people are foreigners, then?

Again, you're highlighting the wrong issue here.

Cordell wrote: »

Why don't you ask the poster of the video then?
I made a different point in the post you quoted - do you have a problem with that as well, or do you agree with me?

What does your point have to do with anything I have said, then?

You've spoken about skin colour not being the issue, when I was responding to a post where the poster made an assumption about someone based on their skin colour.

Now you're trying to move away from that clearly and throw something at me that I never referenced.

Distract, deflect, deny, dismiss. Go away.

TomTomTim

Faugheen wrote: »

They’re black you see, therefore they’re dirty foreigners and not ‘real’ Irish.

Funny those just shouting deport all of them and ‘house our own first’ seem to forget that Irish people were the ones in these positions not so very long ago.

You've a great habit of putting words in peoples mouths, something the honest don't need to do. I think you know though, deep down, that we'd deport every native Irish scumbag too if we could. It's suit you to ignore this though, so you can keep banging your "racism" drum.

TomTomTim

Deleted User wrote: »

Ireland is still a predominately white nation, and the arrival of Black people into Ireland is still a relatively new change. It's perfectly reasonable to make the association between Black people and being foreign.

They could be Irish born. That's true.. second generation. Unlikely to be third generation. They could, just as easily, not be Irish though.

When? Were Irish people given financial and social supports? I can't recall any period in modern history (not so long ago) when Irish people were supported in such a manner.. nor received such a welcome from any government.

Civilisations may fall, the world may burn, but klaz will still be on boards making the same argument for the thousandth time :pac:

Faugheen wrote: »

Funny those just shouting deport all of them and ‘house our own first’ seem to forget that Irish people were the ones in these positions not so very long ago.

So what?

Faugheen wrote: »

They’re black you see, therefore they’re dirty foreigners and not ‘real’ Irish.

Ireland is still a predominately white nation, and the arrival of Black people into Ireland is still a relatively new change. It's perfectly reasonable to make the association between Black people and being foreign.

They could be Irish born. That's true.. second generation. Unlikely to be third generation. They could, just as easily, not be Irish though.

Funny those just shouting deport all of them and ‘house our own first’ seem to forget that Irish people were the ones in these positions not so very long ago.

When? Were Irish people given financial and social supports? I can't recall any period in modern history (not so long ago) when Irish people were supported in such a manner.. nor received such a welcome from any government.

Faugheen wrote: »

Actually the poster put up a video of black people fighting and immediately said they should be deported even though there is every chance they are Irish.

And you’re here telling me it had nothing to do with their skin colour?

What is the basis for assuming they were immigrants then if it isn’t their skin colour? This should be very interesting to see how you talk your way around this one.

Why don't you ask the poster of the video then?
I made a different point in the post you quoted - do you have a problem with that as well, or do you agree with me?

Cordell wrote: »

Their skin colour is not the issue.
The fact that such a small minority manages to get themselves into the news so often and almost never for good reasons, is.

Actually the poster put up a video of black people fighting and immediately said they should be deported even though there is every chance they are Irish.

And you’re here telling me it had nothing to do with their skin colour?

What is the basis for assuming they were immigrants then if it isn’t their skin colour? This should be very interesting to see how you talk your way around this one.

Faugheen wrote: »

They’re black you see, therefore they’re dirty foreigners and not ‘real’ Irish.

Funny those just shouting deport all of them and ‘house our own first’ seem to forget that Irish people were the ones in these positions not so very long ago.

Their skin colour is not the issue.
The fact that such a small minority manages to get themselves into the news so often and almost never for good reasons, is.

Dyr

Faugheen wrote: »

They’re black you see, therefore they’re dirty foreigners and not ‘real’ Irish.

Funny those just shouting deport all of them and ‘house our own first’ seem to forget that Irish people were the ones in these positions not so very long ago.

The position of seeking asylum or the position of emigrating?

MarkEadie wrote: »

Yeah it seems very strange to argue for deporting citizens born and bred here which may be the case for the lads in the video above.

They’re black you see, therefore they’re dirty foreigners and not ‘real’ Irish.

Funny those just shouting deport all of them and ‘house our own first’ seem to forget that Irish people were the ones in these positions not so very long ago.

Bobblehats

Cordell wrote: »

Well, you'd better get used to it

Ah, listen I’m stuck in the past

I like the classics!

Well, you'd better get used to it

Bobblehats

Cordell wrote: »

Nothing to see here, I don't get the point. It's not like they're the only type of immigrants having gang fights in broad daylight in the city centre. I think polish people outnumber them 10:1 or more, so I'm sure there were tens of polish gang fights that went unreported.

They may not even be fighting; to me it’s just such a surreal sight on Ireland’s streets regardless.

Yep :rolleyes: I’m that resident racist…

Dyr

Out of curiosity, how many asylum seekers are resident in Ireland at the moment?

MarkEadie wrote: »

Correct. A lot of the posts from the anti immigration side are just not worthy of response I feel, which is a shame. Its a little bit like reviewing a product. The majority of people who review are usually the ones who complain. You can't really get a reasonable discussion going with people who want to set up their own parties against immigration as I've seen in a couple of posts. Then there were the emails to the TDs

You've really hoisted yourself up onto some sort of righteous virtue signaling mantle. You truly are one of the good ones....

Bobblehats wrote: »

Dublin or Little London? G’wan de multiculturlism.

Gaggle of local geese snapping up the ringside seats..

Nothing to see here, I don't get the point. It's not like they're the only type of immigrants having gang fights in broad daylight in the city centre. I think polish people outnumber them 10:1 or more, so I'm sure there were tens of polish gang fights that went unreported.

Salvation Tambourine

bubblypop wrote: »

Even though this particular thread appears to be far more of an anti asylum seeker thread than anything else.

This thread has rarely been anti genuine asylum seeker. It has been anti bogus asylum seeker. There's a big difference.

Bobblehats

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Time to start deporting those who live here as a result of an application but behave like this

https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1401881725727301638?s=19

Dublin or Little London? G’wan de multiculturlism.

Gaggle of local geese snapping up the ringside seats..