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F1 2021 Round 6: Azerbaijan GP

AMKC

So who is going to get pole here and who is going to win?
Me I love this track. It has always been very entertaining since it came on the calendar some years back.

I would like to see Sergio Perez get pole and win it.

Hamilton has a good record around here do.

Also who can forget that infamous Vettel moment when he ran into the back of Lewis and

He brake Tested me.

I think that's where Vettels fortunes took a turn for the worse and he has paid for it with Karma over the last few years but I think his form is on the up again so I would love to see him do well here too and get on the podium.

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Harika

iffandonlyif wrote: »

I’ve been pretty miffed by all the hysterical Mazepin hate, but this is probably the point I give up caring. What a crazy twitch.

Learned from Verstappen

recyclebin

Verstappen used to do that late twitch not so long ago! Not sure why the Haas needed to swap positions crossing the line anyway. It wasnt going to prove anything.

recyclebin

recyclebin wrote: »

Verstappen used to do that late twitch not so long ago! Not sure why the Haas needed to swap positions crossing the line anyway. It wasnt going to prove anything.

And Micks dad did a lot worse to Barrichello down the straight!

Andrew76

This is really interesting, team radio between Lewis and Bono at the end of the race. He accidentially turned back on the "magic" while upshifting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOgAr2mUcQg

Race restart - https://youtu.be/suZHkUxPzjE?t=308 - you can see his front left locks up as he goes straight on. Would love to know exactly what the "magic" does - was it Toto who said it shifts the brake bias to the front - maybe that would cause it to lock up?

TheQ_Man

recyclebin wrote: »

And Micks dad did a lot worse to Barrichello down the straight!

And got punished for it

recyclebin

After all the talk the subject of bendy wings and appeals never came to pass. I wonder will it shake up the order much in the next couple of races.

R00ster

Merc had a tweet up saying "Even champions make mistakes. Chin up, Lewis."

It was swiftly deleted...

BrentMused

Really happy for Checo.

An excellent driver who was always going to need time to settle into a new car and team, never mind in a season in which testing was dramatically reduced.

Makes the discussions doing the rounds a few weeks ago about Red Bull potentially replacing him even more ridiculous than they were at the time.

I have no doubt that come the end of the season, Red Bull will have been very pleased with his contribution.

It will make a huge difference for them being able to try undercuts and different strategies by having their second driver being consistently in the top 3 or 4.

MadYaker

BrentMused wrote: »

Really happy for Checo.

An excellent driver who was always going to need time to settle into a new car and team, never mind in a season in which testing was dramatically reduced.

Makes the discussions doing the rounds a few weeks ago about Red Bull potentially replacing him even more ridiculous than they were at the time.

I have no doubt that come the end of the season, Red Bull will have been very pleased with his contribution.

It will make a huge difference for them being able to try undercuts and different strategies by having their second driver being consistently in the top 3 or 4.

Floundering Bottas also helping a lot there

CFlat

VETTEL SECOND!!!!!!!!!

MadYaker

#ExperienceAzerbaijan

pjohnson

AMKC

What a race. They really should have red flagged the race after Lance Strolls tyre failed or at least yellow flagged it and gave teams the option to change there tyres and then Max's might not have failed. Them tyres are dangerous. That should really not happen.

Anyway I really felt for Max and for Red Bull not getting there 1-2 but was also delighted for Sergio, Vettel was great to see him back on the podium and Gasly.
I was thinking at the restart this is hardly worth it for one flag but how wrong I was it was brilliant.

What exactly happened to Hamilton did he just fail to cool his brakes so they failed or what? He has been very lucky so far anyway Hamilton so was due some bad luck. Bottas was just not at the races at all today.

Gaoth Laidir

So Hamilton flicked the Magic switch on the upshift at the start, which fecked up his brakes at turn 1. How did he manage to get around the rest of the race relatively freely if he didn't realise until after the race that he had flicked that switch? I assume this magic only affect the start and is not an issue when the brakes heat up normally during the race?

[Deleted User]

Faugheen wrote: »

Well then maybe establish all the facts before you shoot your mouth off.

Good advice. Let's watch you follow it

Faugheen wrote: »

I don’t understand why Pirelli have questions to answer?

Couple of people correct you

Faugheen wrote: »

That’s actually fair enough.

Oh. Just a pity you didn't establish all the facts before, ahem, shooting your mouth off.

Caught the highlights, looked like a pretty nothing race for the most part.. Bottas is just sad. Sat in 10th for almost all the race, could nothing about anyone.

Delighted to see Hamilton really punished for a ****-up. He gets a lot of luck with safety cars and the like and was given a huge advantage today between Verstappen losing out and getting a chance at the win when he'd done nothing to suggest he had a shot up til then.

ctrl-alt-delete

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

So Hamilton flicked the Magic switch on the upshift at the start, which fecked up his brakes at turn 1. How did he manage to get around the rest of the race relatively freely if he didn't realise until after the race that he had flicked that switch? I assume this magic only affect the start and is not an issue when the brakes heat up normally during the race?

I could be remembering wrong but did Sky reckon the magic gets the brakes to temp and so he had left it on for the restart? His brakes were smoking far more than others on the grid although he was there waiting longer.

So his brakes were then too hot? I'd imagine zooming around the track after that cools them enough for him not to notice until he parked up again?

MadYaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVI_2RZs3Fo&ab_channel=Flash-224Flash-224

Full press conference. Interesting that Seb sat in his car for the entirety of the red flag, he felt he was in a good place and didn't want to get out :pac:

SCOOP 64

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

So Hamilton flicked the Magic switch on the upshift at the start, which fecked up his brakes at turn 1. How did he manage to get around the rest of the race relatively freely if he didn't realise until after the race that he had flicked that switch? I assume this magic only affect the start and is not an issue when the brakes heat up normally during the race?

I thought he said he flicked the switch by mistake at the restart while trying out run Perez.

Lawlesz

I don't think we are getting the full story on the "magic" switch. Toto said it was something to do with changing the bias which I don't really buy.

I think sky alluded to it being a switch to help get the brake temps within range on formation laps or SC periods. Hamilton brakes looked way hotter as they were lining up too. The fact that they called it a magic switch seemed a bit off, like they couldn't say straight out what it was. Maybe I'm just cynical... Whatever it waa, Bono said he turned it off but back on again, so that's a little crazy if it is that easy to move by accident

Hijpo

Lawlesz wrote: »

I don't think we are getting the full story on the "magic" switch. Toto said it was something to do with changing the bias which I don't really buy.

I think sky alluded to it being a switch to help get the brake temps within range on formation laps or SC periods. Hamilton brakes looked way hotter as they were lining up too. The fact that they called it a magic switch seemed a bit off, like they couldn't say straight out what it was. Maybe I'm just cynical... Whatever it waa, Bono said he turned it off but back on again, so that's a little crazy if it is that easy to move by accident

Also, not sure who it was in commentary may have been Di Resta but they were very coy in not divulging exactly that that button was for saying they would leave it up to the team to comment on it. If its jusy brake bias would he be that coy? Not trying to concoct a conspiracy theory just wondering if he would be or why he would think he would be in a delicate position to give that info.

Faugheen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Good advice. Let's watch you follow it

Couple of people correct you

Oh. Just a pity you didn't establish all the facts before, ahem, shooting your mouth off.

Think you need to read the rest of the posts my friend.

Faugheen wrote: »

I don’t understand why Pirelli have questions to answer?

Why can’t teams monitor for themselves and see that a 2-stop might be necessary?

I asked a question. And people answered it. I never stated any mad and wacky conspiracy theories that the FIA were being paid off to stop the race to give Hamilton a chance to win.

Nice to see that you’re more upset about my post than the complete bullsh*t that it was in response to, mind. Tells me everything.

[Deleted User]

Ahh, the silence is lovely.

Faugheen

Hijpo wrote: »

Also, not sure who it was in commentary may have been Di Resta but they were very coy in not divulging exactly that that button was for saying they would leave it up to the team to comment on it. If its jusy break bias would he be that coy? Not trying to concoct a conspiracy theory just wondering if he would be or why he would think he would be in a delicate position to give that info.

I remember this. It was Anthony Davidson. He was being extremely vague and not quite keen to actually state what it was - ‘the team will explain that’ etc. Thought it was very unusual at the time.

Ted came in then and said the line about keeping the brakes and tyres warm during SC and formation laps alright.

pjohnson

Ant Davidson does simulator work for Mercedes so probably didnt want to speak out of turn. He aint Lewis he would be chopped asap if he misspoke.

mickdw

Hijpo wrote: »

Also, not sure who it was in commentary may have been Di Resta but they were very coy in not divulging exactly that that button was for saying they would leave it up to the team to comment on it. If its jusy brake bias would he be that coy? Not trying to concoct a conspiracy theory just wondering if he would be or why he would think he would be in a delicate position to give that info.

Mercedes have been using the magic term for a good while. Its not exactly clear what it does but the guy on sky was Anthony Davidson.
Who is mercedes sim driver so he knows exactly what its about but it wouldnt be right for him to just let that out of the bag live on sky.

flazio

Something that the F1 cameras missed during the race

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1401597333893173251?s=19

Burkie1203

Pirelli say tyres issues may be debris as they found a cut on Hamiltons left rear.

Top Dog

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Pirelli say tyres issues may be debris as they found a cut on Hamiltons left rear.

Except his didn't fail so what difference does it make?

chicorytip

Why is tyre choice restricted to Pirelli only?
Like most Italian automotive products they are not the most durable.

mickdw

Top Dog wrote: »

Except his didn't fail so what difference does it make?

Debris on track so the failures could be due to cuts too.