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French Open 2021

Floppybits

A few days away from the second Slam of the year. I guess for the men's Nadal has to be favourite. Is there anyone that beat him here? As for the ladies for me its wide open with 3 or 4 players that can win. I see Osaka has said she is not doing any press at the French Open for her mental health. I don't see her winning it.

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Girly Gal

whiterebel wrote: »

That's terrible. Much as Koepfer wasn't a bundle of manners, its extremely ignorant to him as well. He should have had every evantuality planned well in advance and shaken hands (or racquets) and given him the win.

Why give Koepfer the win, he beat him fair and square, the match obviously drained Federer more than he thought it would, at the end of the day he's almost 40, been out for over a year and only played 2 or 3 matches before the French Open. If he hadn't withdrawn, it's likely he would have had to retire during the match anyway, which think is actually worse, because he would have known coming into the match he probably wouldn't be able to finish it, so at least this way everyone can just get on with it. I don't like seeing walkovers either, but, I don't think Federer took this decision lightly and it probably means his knees aren't up to Grand Slam level tennis anymore, which will probably be proven at Wimbledon if he's involved in an extended match.

Slashermcguirk

Very poor form by Federer. I found it strange when he said in a press conference the other day, he saw no way of getting past the Djokovic quarter. While i appreciate he has been out injured up until recently, very strange for a player to say something like that even if he thought it was a real possiblity. To just enter to play a few matches in preparation for another tournament seems disrespectful.

I think Djokovic would have beaten him handy enough anyway, Federer hasnt beaten Novak since 2012 in a grand slam. Even still, I dont think it looks good if he isnt actually too injured to play.

Royale with Cheese

Tsitsipas - Medvedev quarter looks tasty now.

dublin49

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Not really getting the outrage tbh. Surely at Federer's age, and with everything he's contributed to tennis, he doesn't really have to explain himself if he's prioritising looking after his body and extending his career? As for Koepfer, I think the onus is on him to take his chances rather than hope for a Federer withdrawal. Don't think Federer has anything to apologise for tbh.

I agree Koepfer had his chance ,I supose Federer could easily have said the knee was acting up and regrettably he had to withdraw and nobody would have doubted him,he told the truth so we should respect him for that.The big regret is the hole it leaves in the playing schedule.

Floppybits

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Not really getting the outrage tbh. Surely at Federer's age, and with everything he's contributed to tennis, he doesn't really have to explain himself if he's prioritising looking after his body and extending his career? As for Koepfer, I think the onus is on him to take his chances rather than hope for a Federer withdrawal. Don't think Federer has anything to apologise for tbh.

Hate players giving walkovers and to make the call this early as well. Hasn't even given himself a chance to see if he can recover. I know Wimbledon is the priority but it's still a few weeks away plenty of time for him to recover.

yerwanthere123

Not really getting the outrage tbh. Surely at Federer's age, and with everything he's contributed to tennis, he doesn't really have to explain himself if he's prioritising looking after his body and extending his career? As for Koepfer, I think the onus is on him to take his chances rather than hope for a Federer withdrawal. Don't think Federer has anything to apologise for tbh.

whiterebel

That's terrible. Much as Koepfer wasn't a bundle of manners, its extremely ignorant to him as well. He should have had every evantuality planned well in advance and shaken hands (or racquets) and given him the win.

Rob2D

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Is there any way to watch matches back? The looked like a cracker, but I missed it

You can watch replays on Eurosport player. I paid the €7 for 1 month and it's pretty good.

Royale with Cheese

Jesus, he's actually pulled out now.

whiterebel

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

I'm a huge Federer fan but cmon now, you don't turn up at one of the grand slams to so openly use it as a training session and pull out at the first sign of it getting a little bit difficult.

He should have got more grief for doing it in the ATP final a couple of years ago. If he signs up he should play. Very disrespectful to everyone to just pull out.

HeidiHeidi

Rob2D wrote: »

OMG that Women's Doubles was the match of the tournament so far. Unreal stuff.

Is there any way to watch matches back? The looked like a cracker, but I missed it

yerwanthere123

Rob2D wrote: »

OMG that Women's Doubles was the match of the tournament so far. Unreal stuff.

3 hours and 10 minutes on court for Swiatek, won't exactly help her singles prospects.

Rob2D

OMG that Women's Doubles was the match of the tournament so far. Unreal stuff.

Floppybits

Tsitsipas looking good here

Girly Gal

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

I don't think he's going to get past Berrettini but he needs to go out and fúcking play him. If not he shouldn't have entered the tournament in the first place.

Definitely should play the match, probably a straight sets victory for Berrettini, but, think Federer should and probably will play that match. If he can't play after a match like that it's very difficult to see him as a genuine contender for Wimbledon.

Rob2D

Floppybits wrote: »

Yeah think he couldn't hold it together to beat one of the greats of the game. Thought he was very disrespectful when he just missed a shot up the line and then questioned it, walked around the net to check it himself and the spat on it. He got docked a point for that and rightfully so.

Yeah, not a good look.

[Deleted User]

Furze99 wrote: »

Could easily have gone against him - Koepfer lost it in the head a bit.

that's why he's ranked 59

blew the third set completely with a mental lapse.

Fed himself is mentally checking out if not actually dropping out because he knows that he's going nowhere with the draw ahead of him.

Floppybits

Furze99 wrote: »

Could easily have gone against him - Koepfer lost it in the head a bit.

Yeah think he couldn't hold it together to beat one of the greats of the game. Thought he was very disrespectful when he just missed a shot up the line and then questioned it, walked around the net to check it himself and the spat on it. He got docked a point for that and rightfully so.

Royale with Cheese

I don't think he's going to get past Berrettini but he needs to go out and fúcking play him. If not he shouldn't have entered the tournament in the first place.

Furze99

Floppybits wrote: »

I am not surprised by this but I am surprised he has said it. This was always about the build up to Wimbledon. I do think that nowadays when Federer has a match like that he is always going to be knocked out a round or 2 later. He just can't recover in time. Last night he looked off and I didn't think he was going to win.

Could easily have gone against him - Koepfer lost it in the head a bit.

Floppybits

Augme wrote: »

It will be incredibly disrespectful of Fed to just withdraw when he isn't actually injured. Using a Slam as a glorified warm up event is really poor form towards the tournament and his other professionals imo. Again, if Novak did this he would be crucified.

I am not surprised by this but I am surprised he has said it. This was always about the build up to Wimbledon. I do think that nowadays when Federer has a match like that he is always going to be knocked out a round or 2 later. He just can't recover in time. Last night he looked off and I didn't think he was going to win.

yerwanthere123

Nervous about this Azarenka-Pavlyuchenkova match. I know Azarenka is 5-1 against her but Pavlyuchenkova likes to go on one or two random decent runs a year before returning to general irrelevance. Would love it if we could get the Azarenka-Serena QF too, could potentially be one of the matches of the tournament, especially now Vika would have the added belief that she can now actually beat Serena in a slam.

Augme

It will be incredibly disrespectful of Fed to just withdraw when he isn't actually injured. Using a Slam as a glorified warm up event is really poor form towards the tournament and his other professionals imo. Again, if Novak did this he would be crucified.

Royale with Cheese

Federer, 39, is due to play Matteo Berrettini in the last 16 on Monday.

But he said he will decide later on Sunday whether now would be the "perfect time to take a rest".

I'm a huge Federer fan but cmon now, you don't turn up at one of the grand slams to so openly use it as a training session and pull out at the first sign of it getting a little bit difficult.

whiterebel

Fed talking about pulling out. Not surprised, that was gruelling last night. FO would need to rethink the start time for the evening session and bring it to 7.30pm latest local time.

Girly Gal

Federer did well to get over the line yesterday considering how little he has played and how well Koepfer played, but, very hard to see him go any further as that match was very draining for him. Still hard to see anything other than a Nadal Djokovic semi with Rafa the likely winner. On the other side Tsitsipas looks the most likely, but, as we all know the next gen players are so inconsistent it's difficult to predict anything with any great certainty.

In the women's Swiatek looks the class of the field, hard to see who can beat her, unlike a lot of the other women's players she looks composed and mentally strong. The other side of the draw is opening up for Serena, but, I still find it difficult to see her reach the final, but, a lot of her opponents are beaten before they set foot on the court, so definitely wouldn't rule her out reaching the final, but, don't see her winning it, unless someone upsets Swiatek, then it's up for grabs.

Augme

Week one done. Much like the autumn french open I've been more impressed with Novak performances than nadals. Dropping two service games in a row against a no mark like Norrie was a big surprise. He will need to drastically up his game against Sinner if he wants to get it done in 3. Still massive ve favourite though obviously. The other half could produce some excellent contests though.

On the women's side, very difficult to see past Swiatek. She had a bit of a wobble in the first today but recovered to win the first and then decimated her opponent in the second. The other side of the draw is wide open anyway.

[Deleted User]

can't see Fed making it much further in Paris.

yerwanthere123

Federer probably saved his best for last there, didn't want to be up too much longer

klr87

Rob2D wrote: »

OH S**T! There's the Roger magic. That's getting shot of the day for sure.

I think Musetti probably has the top 2 shots, but YMMV

Anyway, Roger scrapes through somehow.