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Areas to avoid Dublin 15

propertyseeker

Good afternoon,

Me and my partner are planning to buy family home in Dublin 15, we are not from Ireland.

We are looking in Dublin 15 with a budget of 300-350k. We do not know area too well.
My work buddy is from the area and has given us a list of the following areas to avoid:

Most estates near the shopping center
Blakestown
Hartstown/Huntstown
Fortlawn/Sheepmore
Pinebrook
Whitestown
Corduff
Tyrrelstown

They also advised against most of Clonsilla and Ongar and recommended we try stretch budget to over 400k to purchase house in Castleknock.

Are they correct with this advice? thanks

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December2012

I am in Ongar since it was built and have not suffered any crime here. My children attend local schools, I have made lots of friends in the area and socialise in the area. We are involved in the community sports teams. My area is very quiet, full of families and I love it.
And FWIW (if its worth anything) I am white irish, from Dublin all my life. I enjoy the multicultural aspect of the area and the schools. Most of the people here have more in common with each other than differences.

frag420

ibrahimovic wrote: »

You'll fit in great, as there are no Irish in Dublin 15 xxx

Are you any relation to the Ibrahimavic’s in Clonsilla?

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December2012 wrote: »

I am in Ongar since it was built and have not suffered any crime here. My children attend local schools, I have made lots of friends in the area and socialise in the area. We are involved in the community sports teams. My area is very quiet, full of families and I love it.
And FWIW (if its worth anything) I am white irish, from Dublin all my life. I enjoy the multicultural aspect of the area and the schools. Most of the people here have more in common with each other than differences.

I agree that Ongar is not nearly as crime- / gang-ridden as it’s perceived to be. My wife and a friend of hers go for long runs around the area and have never had any bother. I often run in the evenings / after dark in winter, and have also never had any hassle.

I think it’s a polarizing area. Most of my friends who live in other parts of Dublin who come to visit, are not impressed to say the least. The word on the property grapevine is that it’s an area best avoided. Personally, I think it’s ok, but I don’t want my children growing up here. I don’t enjoy the aspects of area that you appreciate and have had neighbors sell up for that reason. It’s very much a personal preference though and may suit the OP.

OP it really depends on your personal circumstances. House or apartment? Single or a couple? Children or intent to have a family? All these variables come into play when choosing an area.

handlemaster

propertyseeker wrote: »

Good afternoon,

Me and my partner are planning to buy family home in Dublin 15, we are not from Ireland.

We are looking in Dublin 15 with a budget of 300-350k. We do not know area too well.
My work buddy is from the area and has given us a list of the following areas to avoid:

Most estates near the shopping center
Blakestown
Hartstown/Huntstown
Fortlawn/Sheepmore
Pinebrook
Whitestown
Corduff
Tyrrelstown

They also advised against most of Clonsilla and Ongar and recommended we try stretch budget to over 400k to purchase house in Castleknock.

Are they correct with this advice? thanks

Would you buy a house based on one person's opinion. That is a very big brush you are painting D15 with. There are nearly 100k people living there over a very wide area. Your friend you say has lived in the area for 40 years. The area has builth up enormously over that period. Some people just don't like change and that comes out as a negative for the whole area. I know people who say England is no good to live in its changed so much they would rather live abroad. Does than mean it really is so?

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bubblypop wrote: »

Ah, far from it I would think!
Dublin 1, and a lot of Dublin 10 and 11, would be the worst postcodes, in general.

Yeah, Dublin 15 is not the worst.

I've lived here for 5 years and never had any hassle. Previously lived in Dublin 24 and can't say the same.

handlemaster

Hamachi wrote: »

You get what you pay for. Your budget is very low for Dublin. D15 is probably the least desirable post code in the city for several reasons including location, demographics, and some social problems, which are somewhat exaggerated by the media.

One area to look at is Littlepace. It’s almost adjacent to Ongar, but seems significantly nicer. It’s about 15 years old, mostly settled, and has avoided the social problems reported in Ongar. Worth a look.

Never heard that one before least desirable in Dublin. Can you point me to where this info is coming from ?

niniboots

burkey2k0 wrote: »

Do yourself a favour and don't look at where the 'Castleknock' Hotel is located

The 'Castleknock' thing is funny, I've lived in the REAL porterstown for over 40 years, the area was mainly farming and countryside. Back before brown paper backs were the norm in planning the postal address and district was Diswellestown Road, Clonsilla, Dublin 15. Riverwood postal address is Carpenterstown, Castleknock and yes the voting register, schools etc now form part of Castleknock demise, however, way back when they were potato fields riverwood area estate was a field adjacent to Clonsilla road!!! The new fly over bridge is the boundary from St. Mochtas Football pitch Clonsilla, a stone throw to boundary of Carpenterstown Castleknock. That's not any reflection on Carpenterstown, or Clonsilla village they are all fine & lovely areas. Developer's & Fingal rezoning & Estate agents jumped on the Castleknock Village bandwagon when marketing these areas to get more dosh! Castleknock Hotel in reality is nearer strawberry beds, Porterstown!

Op the Carpenterstown area noted, Castlefield in Clonsilla are lovely areas, great schools but because they are nice areas in D15, demand is high and in this market you will be very lucky to get something for your budget. Agreed market is over inflated but 22 houses sold out in 6 minutes in Dunboyne, Bay view in Hollystown sold to over seas investors & 7000 had registered their interest, 2nd hand houses are bidding wars & 2bed in Carpenterstown marketed at 295k has offers 20% over asking, the two new builds in Clonsilla St. Joseph's and new additions to Castlefield were way over 400k 3beds, so you do the maths. Kellystown has big plans for redevelopment, fields at moment, kellystown lands are opposite luttrelstown Castle and stretch to Riverside boundary you might get future new build, maybe 2bed. Good luck though it's tough when you are looking for a home & I hope you find something.

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handlemaster wrote: »

Never heard that one before least desirable in Dublin. Can you point me to where this info is coming from ?

Actually, least desirable is too extreme. Dublin 1 is clearly less desirable.

Apart from Castleknock, Dublin 15 isn’t prized by anybody with buying power.

handlemaster

Hamachi wrote: »

Actually, least desirable is too extreme. Dublin 1 is clearly less desirable.

Apart from Castleknock, Dublin 15 isn’t prized by anybody with buying power.

Again is this just your personal opinion ? I dont find anything referencing D15 as a bad place. I see the largest shopping centre in Dublin, national equatics centre, hospital, large employment centre , fastest growing suburb of Dublin, grand canal , acces to largest park in Dublin etc . But nothing about what you say. Can you put up a link ?

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handlemaster wrote: »

Again is this just your personal opinion ? I dont find anything referencing D15 as a bad place. I see the largest shopping centre in Dublin, national equatics centre, hospital, large employment centre , fastest growing suburb of Dublin, grand canal , acces to pheo

It’s the opinion of a significant number of people currently in the market looking at buying property. I work on the other side of city. None of my colleagues currently looking at buying would even consider the area.

Do you think that Dublin 15 is top of the list for anybody with a decent to large budget? People buy here because it’s affordable, not because it’s hugely desirable.

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Sweet.Science wrote: »

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terrace...dublin/3264276

Don't buy this one. The neighbour parks like an asshole.

Treppen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Don't buy this one. The neighbour parks like an asshole.

:pac:

[Deleted User]

Hamachi wrote: »

It’s the opinion of a significant number of people currently in the market looking at buying property. I work on the other side of city. None of my colleagues currently looking at buying would even consider the area.

Do you think that Dublin 15 is top of the list for anybody with a decent to large budget? People buy here because it’s affordable, not because it’s hugely desirable.

And yet there are houses priced at over 500K in plenty of areas of Dublin 15, seems plenty of people find it desirable

handlemaster

Hamachi wrote: »

It’s the opinion of a significant number of people currently in the market looking at buying property. I work on the other side of city. None of my colleagues currently looking at buying would even consider the area.

Do you think that Dublin 15 is top of the list for anybody with a decent to large budget? People buy here because it’s affordable, not because it’s hugely desirable.

If they work on the other side of the city that makes sence not to buy on the opposite side. There is a logic to that nothing to do with the area itself.

Treppen

Hamachi wrote: »

Actually, least desirable is too extreme. Dublin 1 is clearly less desirable.

Apart from Castleknock, Dublin 15 isn’t prized by anybody with buying power.

What do you mean by " buying power " daddy Warbucks ?.

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handlemaster wrote: »

If they work on the other side of the city that makes sence not to buy on the opposite side. There is a logic to that nothing to do with the area itself.

The logic has nothing to do with geography. It’s the perception of the area.

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Treppen wrote: »

What do you mean by " buying power " daddy Warbucks ?.

Budget.

Sweet.Science

I grew up in Dublin 15 and am finding out more about on this thread than I did in my 24 years living there

niniboots

Hamachi wrote: »

The logic has nothing to do with geography. It’s the perception of the area.

It seems your perception is based on wildly exaggerated media reports and anecdotal conversations with office buddies who aren't looking in D15. D15 IS HUGE, there are fabulous areas, very desirable areas and less so desirable district's, if budget is one of your arguments for insulting an entire area that seems silly! FYI you won't get much for 400k that's not cheap, keep going upwards for Strawberry Bed, Homeleigh, Farmleigh, Castleknock Village, Georgian Village, Park Dive, Luttrelstown, Bracken View, Old Carpenterstown Road you will need a very very large bank balance. Regardless, your points are not accurate for thousands who do love and live in the area!

MayoSalmon

handlemaster wrote: »

Again is this just your personal opinion ? I dont find anything referencing D15 as a bad place. I see the largest shopping centre in Dublin, national equatics centre, hospital, large employment centre , fastest growing suburb of Dublin, grand canal , acces to largest park in Dublin etc . But nothing about what you say. Can you put up a link ?

Parts of D15 are gross though...you couldn't pay me to live in or around Corduff, Sheepmoor or up around Mulhuddart but other areas are quite desirable. All things considered there's more bad than good areas in Dublin 15 hence the reputation I'd say.

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niniboots wrote: »

It seems your perception is based on wildly exaggerated media reports and anecdotal conversations with office buddies who aren't looking in D15. D15 IS HUGE, there are fabulous areas, very desirable areas and less so desirable district's, if budget is one of your arguments for insulting an entire area that seems silly! FYI you won't get much for 400k that's not cheap, keep going upwards for Strawberry Bed, Homeleigh, Farmleigh, Castleknock Village, Georgian Village, Park Dive, Luttrelstown, Bracken View, Old Carpenterstown Road you will need a very very large bank balance. Regardless, your points are not accurate for thousands who do love and live in the area!

I live in Dublin 15. As you say, there are of course desirable areas. The OP’s budget is 300-350K. S/he is very unlikely to having the buying power to purchase in any of the districts you’ve referenced.

I’m not insulting the entire area. I’m pointing out the perception of the area, amongst many not familiar with this part of Dublin. For some people, Dublin 15 conjures up false images of gangs, high crime, and borderline ghettoes. I agree that this reputation is undeserved.

Having said that, it’s a simply not true that Dublin 15 is perceived as being one of the more desirable post codes in Dublin. It’s both dishonest and misleading to the OP to imply otherwise.

handlemaster

Hamachi wrote: »

The logic has nothing to do with geography. It’s the perception of the area.

In this case the logic by your colleagues is not to live on the opposite side of the city (geography) to where they work there in giving the logic. It makes perfect sence to me. I.wouldnt do that either.
Perception by whom exactly. I can't find any such sentiment of perception online. As I say I have seen lots of positives for the area.

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MayoSalmon wrote: »

All things considered there's more bad than good areas in Dublin 15 hence the reputation I'd say.

The opposite I would think

niniboots

Hamachi wrote: »

I live in Dublin 15. As you say, there are of course desirable areas. The OP’s budget is 300-350K. S/he is very unlikely to having the buying power to purchase in any of the districts you’ve referenced.

I’m not insulting the entire area. I’m pointing out the perception of the area, amongst many not familiar with this part of Dublin. For some people, Dublin 15 conjures up false images of gangs, high crime, and borderline ghettoes. I agree that this reputation is undeserved.

Having said that, it’s a simply not true that Dublin 15 is perceived as being one of the more desirable post codes in Dublin. It’s both dishonest and misleading to the OP to imply otherwise.

I believe you stated "D15 is probably the least desirable post code in the city for several reasons"
That is both dishonest & misleading to op, in my opinion!

Sweet.Science

bubblypop wrote: »

The opposite I would think

Most definitely . The lad from Mayo prob knows best though

my folks live in a bungalow a 5 iron from Corduff . It's easily the most boring and uneventful estate in Dublin

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handlemaster wrote: »

In this case the logic by your colleagues is not to live on the opposite side of the city (geography) to where they work there in giving the logic. It makes perfect sence to me. I.wouldnt do that either.
Perception by whom exactly. I can't find any such sentiment of perception online. As I say I have seen lots of positives for the area.

Do you know my work colleagues? Just to reiterate, in our frequent discussions about buying property, Dublin 15 isn’t on their radar for reputational reasons. Like it or not, Dublin 15 reads as Blanchardstown for those unfamiliar with the area. It doesn’t resonate positively for many looking to purchase right now.

brianc27

Waterville is nice, would definitely get something there for your budget, it's mainly Duplex and apartments though

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niniboots wrote: »

I believe you stated "D15 is probably the least desirable post code in the city for several reasons"
That is both dishonest & misleading to op, in my opinion!

Ok. So if we stack rank Dublin post codes in terms of desirability, where does D15 land? Near the top or the bottom?

py2006

Hamachi wrote: »

D15 is probably the least desirable post code in the city for several reasons including location, demographics, and some social problems, which are somewhat exaggerated by the media.

That is nonsense.

I have cousins in that area that I have often visited over the years. There are specific small parts of Blanch that are quite undesirable which tend to be one side of the Blanchardstown Centre but to say Castleknock and the estates bordering it are undesirable is rubbish.

You are talking 5/600k + for the cheapest.

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py2006 wrote: »

That is nonsense.

I have cousins in that area that I have often visited over the years. There are specific small parts of Blanch that are quite undesirable but to say Castleknock and the estates bordering it are undesirable is rubbish.

You are talking 5/600k + for the cheapest.

Again, the OP’s budget is 300-350K.