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F1 2021 Round 6: Azerbaijan GP

AMKC

So who is going to get pole here and who is going to win?
Me I love this track. It has always been very entertaining since it came on the calendar some years back.

I would like to see Sergio Perez get pole and win it.

Hamilton has a good record around here do.

Also who can forget that infamous Vettel moment when he ran into the back of Lewis and

He brake Tested me.

I think that's where Vettels fortunes took a turn for the worse and he has paid for it with Karma over the last few years but I think his form is on the up again so I would love to see him do well here too and get on the podium.

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Sabre0001

*dons tinfoil hat

Leclerc getting his practice in to ruin quali once he gets a pole position time without doing so much damage to his car that he can't race Sunday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufTx9kfyV_Q

BrentMused

Haven't had a chance to watch any of practice so I'm just going off the times, but have Mercedes been that bad? :eek:

Zookey123

BrentMused wrote: »

Haven't had a chance to watch any of practice so I'm just going off the times, but have Mercedes been that bad? :eek:

They have had tyre heating issues. They relied on DAS previously for this.

Andrew76

"If I was Toto with the front wing he's got on his car, I'd keep my mouth shut." :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtZ2zD4WUjs

Gaoth Laidir

I'll say it again, DRS really needs to be abolished, at least for circuits like Baku. It's a farce to see guys doing 360 kph by the end of the straight and waltzing by the guy in front. If a car deserves the place because it's inherently faster or more powerful then let it pass unaided, with the advantage of the tow, but this guaranteed overtake nonsense is a load of...nonsense.

iffandonlyif

Andrew76 wrote: »

"If I was Toto with the front wing he's got on his car, I'd keep my mouth shut." :pac:

Wow, Horner has never been shy, has he?

Frank Bullitt

Those onboards of the Merc front wing really show the flex.

But again, looks like EVERY car is doing that now. So Merc might well have shot themselves in the foot on that.

RB look like they have the sweet spot in set up with mechanical grip and aero grip. That skinny rear wing but they are still very rapid in the slow/medium corners.

Frank Bullitt

H3llR4iser

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

Yeah had seen the same comparison from the Barcelona footage - people are being a bit disingenuous here, that wing moves back a LOT in order for the vertical reference to go down so much. To the point Hamilton was apparently able to spot the movement from the cockpit.

It's without doubt a "moveable aerodynamic aid", but then again, this will likely go the way of the DAS that was, somehow, "not changing the setup of the car" on track :rolleyes:

Frank Bullitt

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Yeah had seen the same comparison from the Barcelona footage - people are being a bit disingenuous here, that wing moves back a LOT in order for the vertical reference to go down so much. To the point Hamilton was apparently able to spot the movement from the cockpit.

It's without doubt a "moveable aerodynamic aid", but then again, this will likely go the way of the DAS that was, somehow, "not changing the setup of the car" on track :rolleyes:

From the sounds of things, every team does it to a degree. So either better tests or they can make a ruling from footage, both sound like legal minefields for the FIA.

BrentMused

Max into the barrier at 15.

Looks like the track rod is broken.

Session red flagged and a headache that Red Bull could do without!

namloc1980

Mercedes well off the place so far.

BrentMused

15 is causing so many problems all weekend.

Must have been half the grid into either the barrier or run-off there so far between FP 1-3!

Bottas on the radio just there: "the changes we made were wasted."

Andrew76

Hopefully Max’s car will be all sorted for quali. Have the Mercs done many laps? No way they’re that far down the pecking order (17th, 18th). What a messy session. Looking forward to qualifying even more now.

Jesus, 5 or 6 tenths that tow was worth. They’ll all be doing it surely.

namloc1980

Hamilton gained 0.6 seconds from the tow down the main straight. Qualifying will be insane as everyone will be looking to get into position for a tow.

BrentMused

namloc1980 wrote: »

Hamilton gained 0.6 seconds from the tow down the main straight. Qualifying will be insane as everyone will be looking to get into position for a tow.

And it looks like he pulled out of it a bit too early!

You could probably get close to a second out of it if planned and executed correctly.

namloc1980

Gasly is looking racy.

flazio

Bottas practicing his pole saving bail out at the end.

[Deleted User]

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Yeah had seen the same comparison from the Barcelona footage - people are being a bit disingenuous here, that wing moves back a LOT in order for the vertical reference to go down so much. To the point Hamilton was apparently able to spot the movement from the cockpit.

Like I said, World Eyesight Champion. :rolleyes:

It's without doubt a "moveable aerodynamic aid", but then again, this will likely go the way of the DAS that was, somehow, "not changing the setup of the car" on track :rolleyes:

I know F1 teams like to talk up their technology but going against Einstein is going to take some doing.
Anyone out there who wants a job in F1 should stay away from Mechanical Engineering, Computer Engineering, Materials Science and just do a Theoretical Physics degree because that's where all the hires will have to come from.

Andrew76

namloc1980 wrote: »

Gasly is looking racy.

With no tow either, very interesting.

Joeface

well that was interesting , I hope Gasly has more in him after that.

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Dont be at yourself

There’ll be lots of messing trying to get the tow, could definitely throw up a surprise or two. Also a big risk of a red flag so important to get a banker lap in, and not be at the end of the queue.

namloc1980

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

There’ll be lots of messing trying to get the tow, could definitely throw up a surprise or two. Also a big risk of a red flag so important to get a banker lap in, and not be at the end of the queue.

Even bigger chance of a yellow flag which would disrupt some flying laps. I bet there'll be some controversy where someone goes down an escape road, bringing out yellow flags.

PopePalpatine

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

BBC suggesting that reliance on DAS to warm tyres last year means they're actually out of practice and not good at warming tyres anymore. Could be something in it.

Mercedes is famously easy on tyres, partly by not overheating them. So the often struggle when it comes time to heat the tyres quickly.

That wasn't always the case. I remember them being horrendously harsh on their tyres back in the early 2010s, especially at more rear-limited tracks.

El_Duderino 09

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Like I said, World Eyesight Champion. :rolleyes:

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As far as i know, Hamilton didn't say he spotted it from the cockpit. He said he saw it (we've all seen it). Anyone have a quote of Hamilton saying he saw it from the cockpit?

El_Duderino 09

PopePalpatine wrote: »

That wasn't always the case. I remember them being horrendously harsh on their tyres back in the early 2010s, especially at more rear-limited tracks.

Yeah Schumacher used to chew through the rears in particular back in those days. But the last few years they have been very good on tyre wear while also being fast. And this year in particular, the Mercedes being easier on tyres than red bull has given them much greater options on tyre strategy than red bull.

Faugheen

A Gasly pole would be great craic. Just gets better and better with every race.

skipper_G

Q1 started, Stroll in the wall red flag

klose

Turn 15 strikes again, strolls quali is cooked. Red flag helps George Russell who's getting a new PU installed.

PsychoPete

I thought there might be a yellow flag or two but 4 minutes in and already a red flag