The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
AndyBoBandy wrote: » Let’s not kid ourselves here…… we all know it’s going to be 4 CCS & 4 CHAdeMO……. I’d bet my car on it.
Black_Knight wrote: » Ditto. "In the interest of balance" or some BS like that they'll keep it 50:50 rather than use the metrics they have to guide them.
cannco253 wrote: I wonder if they were ID.3 owners using up the free credits they got last year? What EVs were using Ionity out of curiosity?
liamog wrote: FCPs should never be put on motorways.
liamog wrote: The hierarchy is straightforward, 150kW+ for motorways and interurbans, 50kW for town and suburbs, 11kW AC for destination and overnight charging.
liamog wrote: The infra has to be built for the next 100,000 cars not the current fleet of slow DC charging vehicles.
McGiver wrote: » You're nitpicking terminology here... In 2021 FCP = 150+ kW DC. That's what I meant.
McGiver wrote: » Petrol stations/towns/suburbs - 50 kW DC is not the most suitable, hard do anything in 20-30 minutes (shopping), 22 kW DC would be more suitable. Btw any sort of DC isn't that widespread in this setting in the more developed EV markets. Unlikely we'll see a massive DC deployment in this setting in Ireland. Unless wireless charging becomes cheap and widespread.
MJohnston wrote: » The problem imo is that future-proofed charging infrastructure, in terms of charging rate, is going to cost disproportionately more now than it will in 5 years or so.
MJohnston wrote: » Yeah, putting the literal groundwork in makes sense, for sure. It’s a tough cookie though, there are so many concurrently rapidly advancing pieces of the technology puzzle and no slowdown in sight.
the_amazing_raisin wrote: » You can do a bit both, for example even just putting down underground ducting and pedastals for chargers makes installation work down the line much easier Even if the future is battery swaps or mobile robotic chargers, it'll take a while for them to catch on and DC chargers will be around for a while since they'll be relatively cheaper than any new technologies
MJohnston wrote: » Aye, but what I meant was that even if we stick with DC chargers, you have rapid improvements in charge point tech, rapid improvements in battery tech, rapid improvements in onboard charger tech, etc.
Black_Knight wrote: » April UpdateCCS/CHAdeMO split My stats say, over the last 2 weeks: CHAdeMO has been occupied 40.6% of the time. (7.41 weeks of use) CCS the other 59.4% of the time (10.86 weeks of use)Unit counts 131 Fast charge units installed (Up 6) 533 Slow charge AC units installed (down 10 - all are AC-DC replacements, some were 2 single socket AC units being replaced with DC) 268 of the newer 22kW AC units are now in place. 131 of the old units yet to be replaced, and 15 of those single socket AC units to be replaced too.AC updates to the new Evolve Smart T unit Dock Road, Dunmore East, Waterford Wolfe Tone Square, Tubbercurry, Sligo Public Car Park, Strand Road, Falcarragh, Donegal Public Car Park, Nailors Row, Buncrana, Donegal Main Street, Belmullet, Mayo Church Street, Wicklow Town, WicklowAC units upgraded to DC - 29 of the 50 delivered Bit of a vague number, this is 29 of those units installed, but they're being installed at the "hubs" too. Blackhall Car Park, Off Mount Street, Mullingar, Westmeath Marian Hall Car Park, Off William Street, Birr, Offaly Garda Station Car Park, Off Lymington Road, Enniscorthy, Wexford Barrack Lane, New Ross, Wexford Public Car Park, Vicar Street, Tuam, Galway Market Street, Carrickmacross, Monaghan Fire Brigade Car Park, New Road, Kinsale, Cork Dolphin's Place, Youghal, CorkNew FCP None
peposhi wrote: » Ready to part with 75% of your car lol
Black_Knight wrote: » Wait so it's 3 HPC and 1 ye Olde 50kW unit? Wonder will they keep the old triple head too? So 8 cars can charge, but 1 of them will be using AC. If they keep the old triple head then I think it'll be ok for leaf drivers. If it's a single CHAdeMO head on site it's a bit ****e for them.
Silent Running wrote: » It looks like two of those HPCs have Chademo on them, and one with two CCS heads.
KCross wrote: » It looks to me like they have 3 x HPC with only one Chademo cable and 5 CCS. I wonder is that Chademo 200A capable since it’s on a HPC? The fourth charger, an FPC, has Chademo, CCS and AC with the AC looking like it is just a 32A connector rather than AC43 since there is no cable hanging off it. So two Chademo slots out of 8. Looks like a good setup to be honest. When is it to all go live?
Black_Knight wrote: » Ah I missed the signs. Looks to me like 2 HCP are CCS only, 1 is mixed, and 1 triple head 50kW unit. That'd be my recommendation of CCS to CHAdeMO head ratios, but the 50kW is a bit disappointing. Guess those old Zoe's and slower charging cars need to be catered for too. Ideally the old triple head will remain also.
Silent Running wrote: » It looks like you can see an O peeping out of the top of the sign on the second last unit, on the left side.
Black_Knight wrote: » Thought that was just part of the top of the unit. The plug handle on that side of that unit certainly looks like CCS. Could we get a better pic peposhi
Silent Running wrote: » It certainly does look like a CCS plug though. Don't get me wrong... I'm certainly not rooting for it to be Chademo.
cannco253 wrote: » So if 2 cars are charging on the CCS only unit does that mean 75kW each?