Communications Specialists in the civil service interviews (HEO level)

Hi twentysomething,

This thread is a couple of years old but I'm wondering if you got through the competition? I'm thinking of applying to the new one they have open at the moment but I'm not sure they pay and grade is enough. These roles surely should be AP at least.

Wallet Inspector

I got just first interview. Tough. Panel of three.

Hi all, first time poster here on boards.

I applied for the 2021 competition which closed today. I expect there to be a lot of interest so I’m not holding out too much hope.

Lucat, I agree they should be AP, especially if placed in a Government Department. I work in an 'agency' of a Department (as the information booklet refers to) and the most senior comms person is a HEO but has the pressure/workload of an AP. However, it's my experience that a lot of senior management positions in agency bodies are at AP, but Communications isn't considered a senior management function and instead sits under an AP at HEO.

Wallet Inspector, have you heard anything back from the interview? Was it the standard competency based format?

twentysomething, I hope you ended up getting the job after the stage 3 interview.

Nekro Man

Same, fingers crossed tbh

ranable1995 wrote: »

Hi all, first time poster here on boards.

I applied for the 2021 competition which closed today. I expect there to be a lot of interest so I’m not holding out too much hope.

Lucat, I agree they should be AP, especially if placed in a Government Department. I work in an 'agency' of a Department (as the information booklet refers to) and the most senior comms person is a HEO but has the pressure/workload of an AP. However, it's my experience that a lot of senior management positions in agency bodies are at AP, but Communications isn't considered a senior management function and instead sits under an AP at HEO.

Wallet Inspector, have you heard anything back from the interview? Was it the standard competency based format?

twentysomething, I hope you ended up getting the job after the stage 3 interview.

I think there will be a lot of interest too, but in large part because of the economic climate at the moment. Normally a comms job with that level of responsibility and without the corresponding pay wouldn't attract huge interest, in my opinion.

Also I noticed they're running this competition only 2.5 years after they ran the last one. I thought that would be the norm more for generalist roles than specialist ones like this, although I could be wrong about that. But if I'm right, it means there might be high turnover from the role. Which is not surprising considering the level of skill you need for it and the fact you're not paid a lot or given the appropriate level of authority.

Fair points there, especially about the economic climate. I wonder are a lot of people in PR agencies etc. thinking that the civil service might be a good move given what has gone on over the past year.

In terms of the level of interest, and as a comparison, I was told that the Comms EO general campaign from 2020 had around 650 or so applicants but only 40 or so were called for interview. I don't know how many positions were available. I would be interested to see what the numbers were for the Comms HEO campaign from 2019 (which I did not apply for) and also for this one.

I stumbled across a PQ when looking for stats on turnover. I can't post the link as I'm a new user unfortunately:

805. Deputy Gary Gannon asked the Minister for Health the number of new staff that started in the press and communications unit of his Department between 1 October and 31 December 2020; and the number of those new staff that still work in the unit. [4219/21]

806. Deputy Gary Gannon asked the Minister for Health the number of new staff that started in the press and communications unit of his Department between 1 October and 31 December 2020 that came from panels; and the number recruited outside of panels. [4220/21]

"I propose to take Questions Nos. 805 and 806 together. Between the period 1st October and 31st December 2020 three new staff started working in the Press and Communications Unit who were assigned from various PAS panels. One of the three remains within that Unit. Separately, the Department intended to appoint a person to a temporary position on secondment from another organisation. For particular reasons it was not possible to proceed with this secondment and the individual remains with their parent organisation."

DOH might not be the best guide re turnover though.

I wonder if we'll hear anything this week, considering they're screening the applications now (at least I think they are)?

twentysomething

lucat wrote: »

Hi twentysomething,

This thread is a couple of years old but I'm wondering if you got through the competition? I'm thinking of applying to the new one they have open at the moment but I'm not sure they pay and grade is enough. These roles surely should be AP at least.

Hi, sorry, only seeing this now. Yes, I got through and got placed in a govt agency rather than one of the depts and it's been great so far. I'm in a team with one direct report. It was basically a lateral move pay wise and is quieter than I was used to in my previous role with the benefits of flexitime. It would probably be busier if we weren't working remotely, but it's interesting and diverse, although there are certainly some quirks to working in the civil service which take a bit of getting used to.

twentysomething wrote: »

Hi, sorry, only seeing this now. Yes, I got through and got placed in a govt agency rather than one of the depts and it's been great so far. I'm in a team with one direct report. It was basically a lateral move pay wise and is quieter than I was used to in my previous role with the benefits of flexitime. It would probably be busier if we weren't working remotely, but it's interesting and diverse, although there are certainly some quirks to working in the civil service which take a bit of getting used to.

I worked in an extremely busy Press Office for a couple of years and I'm having serious reservations about this competition in case I'm placed in the same or an equally busy one. I just don't have it in me. It's good to hear there are quieter ones though! How long were you on the panel for, if you don't mind me asking?

twentysomething

Sorry, only here sporadically! I was on the panel for about a year, I think? I was 32nd or something along those lines, I think?

A month just to get to stage 1...

Anyone heard anything yet?

Nekro Man

Has anyone heard anything?

I haven't anyway

Hi all, I haven't heard anything back yet either.

MarkBluer

So slow!

Just received the below via email:

"I regret to inform you that you are not among those candidates being invited to the next stage of the selection process."

I hope you all have better luck with it!

LD23

Just a heads up I heard back today, got shortlisted but I'm place 206 and they're interviewing up to place 17 so I'm not holding out hope haha!!

Congrats on making the shortlist at least! Who knows what could happen now that you're on it.

LD23

Thanks! Sorry to hear about yours, so many people must've applied for it. The panel life span is 12-18 months so maybe waaaaay down the line I'll hear something. Since it's a specialised role I doubt there will be too many opportunities in it but I guess it's hard to know.

I'm #85, which equates to about the 5th batch I'd they're calling them in groups of 17 or thereabouts. It's unlikely I'll get called but still, I'm happy all the same!

LD23

That's a great number, well done! Fingers crossed you do hear eventually!

Finished 21st just 4 outside the first 17 to be interviewed.

whynot16

Anyone know the level of experience of those called in batch 1?

Also does anyone know what the last competitions interviews were like?

I’m curious too, does it just go straight to interview or are there tests, e-trays, presentations etc ?

twentysomething wrote: »

Hi, sorry, only seeing this now. Yes, I got through and got placed in a govt agency rather than one of the depts and it's been great so far. I'm in a team with one direct report. It was basically a lateral move pay wise and is quieter than I was used to in my previous role with the benefits of flexitime. It would probably be busier if we weren't working remotely, but it's interesting and diverse, although there are certainly some quirks to working in the civil service which take a bit of getting used to.

Hi, could you let us know the process after the shortlisting phase ? Was it just an interview or tests -etray , presentations etc ?

Anyone interviewed yet ?

parisee88

after the shortlisting I did a Zoom interview with a four person panel. None of whom appeared to have any direct experience in the field. I got an offer almost a month ago - the process has been quite drawn out. Haven’t seem many people being placed yet.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117919925#Comment_117919925

@parisee88 thanks for the update. Would you mind my asking what place you were on the panel ? I'm 21st place, and hoping I get called. I was also hoping the panel would be experienced comms people. Were they asking general competency questions or comms related questions ? Thanks

Angieph

Hi parisee88, What was the Zoom interview like, may I ask? I have one next week and I don't have any idea really what to expect... I'd appreciate your insights.