Mr. Incognito wrote: » We need a full back. Moran should be put in there. Would give good distribution and solid under the high ball. Paul Murphy then at CB. We have plenty of midfielders and no full back We had a converted midfielder in full forward in Donaghy. Time to try it in full back.
Speakerboxx wrote: » What was the final score lads from Roscommon match? I missed it today.
munster87 wrote: » Thought Diarmuid O Connor did well today.
Forge83 wrote: » I hate to be banging the poor defence drum again but we are in serious serious trouble. Our forwards are only papering over the massive cracks there and we will be found out in the All Ireland semi if we get there. If they can’t hold it together for the lower intensity league then what chance do they have come championship. Gavin Crowley is the only dependable defender we have, consistently ok which is really scraping the barrel. Gavin White and Tom O Sullivan with a bit more game time are adequate in defence and good in attack. Morley,Foley,Murphy and Begley are not upto it defensively. Murphy and Begley great going forward but any strong athletic forward is salivating at the thought of having any of them marking them. A team could do enough to win by simply putting two bigger men on them and just keep lobbing high balls for marks, they are a massive mismatch to most good forwards. We surely have a prick of a defender somewhere in the county ala Johnny Copper or Philly McMahon? Surely it’s worth taking the chance of converting a midfielder or a forward into a defender? I see a few people still mentioning Moran to start. I wonder do they believe he deserves to start because of how good he was in the past or just that PK will definitely pick him. Can anyone tell me what he contributes outside of some kick passing and over and back hand passing? He contributes nothing defensively, he nearly gives the opposition an extra man due to his lack of mobility hence why we have to play a third man at midfield. It’s absolute madness. On the positive at least he has stopped kicking massive wides. Diarmuid O Connor is our first choice midfielder hands down. The second spot is still wide open but a fit Jack Barry has to be pursued to nullify Brian Fenton if we can somehow get to the final. Fitzgibbon has been excellent on the kick starts. Very assured. Would give Ryan the game against Tyrone if fit but would say Fitzgibbon deserves the championship start as of now. Forwards seem to be clear cut enough depending on PKs strategy. O Brien/O Shea/Moynihan/P Clifford/D Clifford. The last spot between Brosnan, Spillane or a 3rd midfielder or sweeper. Geaney no score from play against Roscommon. Roscommon! Enough said. People giving out about Tommy W but with 14 men he won some tough ball with two markers which helped us hold possession and see out the game. He seems to create extra space for Clifford which can’t be a bad thing. In short, we need a new Seamus Moynihan or we are in the ****. The rest of what I said is nearly irrelevant if we don’t find one.
awaywithyou wrote: » i agree and disagree with you.. i think Foley should be persisted with for full back... i would put tom sullivan centre back.. g white and g crowley on the wings paul murphy has been a great servant but might be time for him to be moved on... tadhg morley is too slow and my opinions on brian beaglaioch are well known here.. midfield jack barry and d moran.. im not convinced by D o'Connor yet... as bad as moran can be... he is a bit of a leader.. forwards much easier.. clifford x 2, o'brien, o'shea, moynihan and imo it will be an absolute disgrace if killian spillane isnt on from the start come chamionship.. t walsh has a role to play.. while he is not the force of old... doubt if too many fullbacks would fancy seeing him walking towards them at any stage in a game
Forge83 wrote: » Definitely worth trying O Sullivan at centre back. He has the mobility and skill set but he is a bit on the light side... Foley is just too light for a taller guy playing full back. He also cannot field or defend a high ball. I can’t figure him out at all. He was a top class sprinter in his youth but shows none of that athleticism playing football. I wonder what Jason McGahan has done with him to improve him physically as I have seen no improvement in him over the last 3/4 years. It can’t be that hard to throw 4/5kg of muscle mass on him over the winter. Same can be said for Tom O Sullivan and a few others. On Jason Mcgahan, how long does a paid professional get to show some results before his position is questioned? I’m not seeing many of our winning minor teams players progressing much physically unless they are doing it themselves. When you see what Joe O Connor did for Limerick physically, I think it’s a massive loss that Kerry football didn’t go after him seriously. Spillane would be my 6th forward also but PK doesn’t seem to fancy him. Same as Graham O Sullivan yesterday, got skinned twice and taken off. Some players get 10 chances, others only 1. Is Moran being a leader enough though? Would he start at midfield for any of the other big teams. I’m fairly convinced on Diarmuid O Connor. He is strong all around, not dominant anywhere, but well rounded. Can field, defend, run and score. I was talking to a few club footballers earlier today for the first time in a while. I mentioned about converting a midfielder to a full back or centre back and all 3 suggested Liam Kearney..... opinions?
awaywithyou wrote: » when dublin won in 2011... 21 year old rory o carroll was fullback... by no means a giant... Ger Brennan was centre back.. again far from a giant.... yes i cannot understand why joe o'connor hasnt been pursued strongly by kerry. he lives 10mins from Currans... actuallly makes zero sense if he hasnt... Moran drives me insane with the stupid things he has done in the past couple of years... but i would def start him... Havent seen this Kearney chap play...
TITANIUM. wrote: » Dropping Murphy would be a ridiculous at this stage. Hes one of the best all round defenders we have. He just needs to be left at wing back. I think the half back line will end up being G Crowley at center back with G whyte and Murphy either side of him. Morley remains our best (least worst) option at FB, A fit in form TOS has to play in 1 corner with the other corner still up for grabs. Fitzgibbon probably deserves his start in goal for championship at this stage. Moran will definitely play and DOC will be hard to drop on current form, I've been very impressed with Paudie Clifford, he really gets involved and has the making of real quality player. Great to see him hand passing across for his brothers goal the other day rather then hand passing over the bar when a goal might be on, which is the safer option allot of players seen to opt for these days. So SOS the 2 Clifford's and probably Darren Moynihan on work rate + SOB all start.I like killian spillane but I do think he does better coming off the bench when there's a little more space. Christ i hope PG returns to form but unfortunately he looks to be only going one way and is surviving on his reputation. Interesting times but at least we have options these days.
awaywithyou wrote: » i think the issue with Paul G is that unfortunately for him he doesnt fit in with the other forwards... u have O'Shea Clifford x 2 and Moynihan that are more or less the same age and woulkd have played together up along... O'Brien is a clubmate of O'Shea so would have an understanding with him... Geaney is older so maybe not on the same wavelength as the other boys... which is one of the reasons i think Spillane would be better..
