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Golf coverage/commentator discussion thread!! Mod note #12

Jayop

I'm not a big fan of his media work but McGinley on Off The Ball was very good this week talking about his first Masters and talking about the course itself. Very interesting.

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prawnsambo

McGinley has just put the mockers on two players in quick succession. Sungjae Im "Having a great day today" - second shot goes straight in the river even as Paul is talking up his game. Before that he talked Louis Oosthuizen into coming up short of the green. It's uncanny.

callaway92

PARlance wrote: »

"Brooks starting on the European Tour has really helped him, of course I still couldn't have picked him for Europe the time I captained Europe to Ryder Cup victory...And then there's 3 or 4 South Africans up there and they're basically European when it comes to golf but not when it comes to the Ryder Cup of course... And Phil is just Phil, it reminds me of Tom Watson performance in Turnbury in 09, coincidentally I beat Tom 5 years later in the Ryder Cup"

Hahaha yes!

Neewollah

castletownman wrote: »

I said the exact same thing after the Masters, and it hasn't abated since.

It's....odd. I will wager that he'll have no better a career than Beefy Johnson.

I won't take that wager as I reckon you could well be right!!!

PARlance

callaway92 wrote: »

Don’t worry. If someone questioned him on it he would 100% have some hyperbolic response as an excuse.

"Brooks starting on the European Tour has really helped him, of course I still couldn't have picked him for Europe the time I captained Europe to Ryder Cup victory...And then there's 3 or 4 South Africans up there and they're basically European when it comes to golf but not when it comes to the Ryder Cup of course... And Phil is just Phil, it reminds me of Tom Watson performance in Turnbury in 09, coincidentally I beat Tom 5 years later in the Ryder Cup"

castletownman

Neewollah wrote: »

Sky have really turned me off Bob Macintyre in recent months. Constantly talking about him as being up their with the best when he still has everything to prove. Rave about his putting when he's actually a bang average putter as pros go.

Seems like a nice chap but they really are overselling him.

How much do they pay the US TV cameras to show his every shot?

I said the exact same thing after the Masters, and it hasn't abated since.

It's....odd. I will wager that he'll have no better a career than Beefy Johnson.

callaway92

Dr Devious wrote: »

Has McGinley mentioned his column last week in the Sunday times where he said he simply couldn’t see an American winning at Kiawah island, he suggested that it had to a European as they were well accustomed to the windy nature of the course. He even said the top of the leaderboard would be choc a block with Europeans. Well it’s windy over there but not much sign of Europe’s finest. If spoofing 5h1te was an Olympic sport, With McGinley we’d be guaranteed a medal.

Don’t worry. If someone questioned him on it he would 100% have some hyperbolic response as an excuse.

Dr Devious

Has McGinley mentioned his column last week in the Sunday times where he said he simply couldn’t see an American winning at Kiawah island, he suggested that it had to a European as they were well accustomed to the windy nature of the course. He even said the top of the leaderboard would be choc a block with Europeans. Well it’s windy over there but not much sign of Europe’s finest. If spoofing 5h1te was an Olympic sport, With McGinley we’d be guaranteed a medal.

ligerdub

bustercherry wrote: »

Seriously wise up.

Maybe you should wise up.

bustercherry

BrianD3 wrote: »

I turn on the TV hoping to watch some golf and instead there's a long. rambling, cliche laden lecture from Henni Koyack about diversity, white males, slaves and inclusion and so on. Terrible stuff.

Then there was the shaming of anyone who just wants to play/watch golf and doesn't want to get involved with activisim - according to Henni it is about
"humanity not politics".:rolleyes:

Apex fallacy on display here too. Most CEOs are white therefore white males are privileged, conveniently forgetting that the vast majority of white males have similar struggles in their lives as anyone else. Similarly, I can't rock up to Pine Valley or Augusta and demand a tee time on the basis of being white and having a penis - or maybe some think that I can?

Seriously wise up.

BrianD3

Mysterypunter wrote: »

More social commentary from sky, I think we need more white NBA players, and more Chinese NFL players, they are underrepresented, wonder how the golf is going

I turn on the TV hoping to watch some golf and instead there's a long. rambling, cliche laden lecture from Henni Koyack about diversity, white males, slaves and inclusion and so on. Terrible stuff.

Then there was the shaming of anyone who just wants to play/watch golf and doesn't want to get involved with activisim - according to Henni it is about
"humanity not politics".:rolleyes:

Apex fallacy on display here too. Most CEOs are white therefore white males are privileged, conveniently forgetting that the vast majority of white males have similar struggles in their lives as anyone else. Similarly, I can't rock up to Pine Valley or Augusta and demand a tee time on the basis of being white and having a penis - or maybe some think that I can?

Deeper Blue

ligerdub wrote: »

They've spent the last 15 minutes lecturing their audience. A box ticker presenter speaking to us about privilege as we sit at home locked up and have to pay to listen to this guff and watch her butcher another interview later on.

She came across extremely condescending, which was unnecessary imo regardless of the importance of the message

ligerdub

Mysterypunter wrote: »

More social commentary from sky, I think we need more white NBA players, and more Chinese NFL players, they are underrepresented, wonder how the golf is going

They've spent the last 15 minutes lecturing their audience. A box ticker presenter speaking to us about privilege as we sit at home locked up and have to pay to listen to this guff and watch her butcher another interview later on.

Deeper Blue

"And now back to our all white male commentary team"

Mysterypunter

More social commentary from sky, I think we need more white NBA players, and more Chinese NFL players, they are underrepresented, wonder how the golf is going

callaway92

Neewollah wrote: »

Sky have really turned me off Bob Macintyre in recent months. Constantly talking about him as being up their with the best when he still has everything to prove. Rave about his putting when he's actually a bang average putter as pros go.

Seems like a nice chap but they really are overselling him.

How much do they pay the US TV cameras to show his every shot?

I think them even calling him Bob the whole time is kinda annoying - He himself doesn’t seem to go by Bob but they treat him like some sort of a goofball of sorts.

Neewollah

Sky have really turned me off Bob Macintyre in recent months. Constantly talking about him as being up their with the best when he still has everything to prove. Rave about his putting when he's actually a bang average putter as pros go.

Seems like a nice chap but they really are overselling him.

How much do they pay the US TV cameras to show his every shot?

Deeper Blue

Trampas wrote: »

Did she not leave to literally a full time reporter with Woods? I guess with him out of action the golf channel had to find something for her to do and get a few quid from sky for changing a mic probably is easy money.

She did, she was headhunted by GolfTV in the states I think. God only knows why. The interview with Phil last night was painful.

Trampas

Benicetomonty wrote: »

She's desperate. Almost sounds like she's afraid her own questions are stupid before she finishes asking them.

Did she not leave to literally a full time reporter with Woods? I guess with him out of action the golf channel had to find something for her to do and get a few quid from sky for changing a mic probably is easy money.

prawnsambo

eagle eye wrote: »

I think he's been excellent this week and I'm not a big fan of his.

He seems to have a direct line to the mocker gods though. You could bet your house on a player making a hames of his shot if Paul decides that now is the time to extol his brilliance at the type of shot he's about to attempt.

Benicetomonty

Deeper Blue wrote: »

I'm sorry but Hennie is a terrible interviewer

She's desperate. Almost sounds like she's afraid her own questions are stupid before she finishes asking them.

Deeper Blue

I'm sorry but Hennie is a terrible interviewer

lostatsea

I agree with the comments that the coverage is piss poor and destroying an exciting tournament on a great course. One bonus is that Butch is not there this week - otherwise, the coverage would be unbearable. Ewan mentioned Butch on Thursday and how he misses his wonderful phrase of 'Yes sir' - Butch is certainly no Beckett or Yeats!

Deeper Blue

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Heinni would want to add a few different questions to her repatoire

Especially if sky continue to make us watch interviews

Pretty much every golf interview is completely pointless imo. They're all the exact same and add nothing to the coverage. I like to hear from the winners on Sunday but that's it.

[Deleted User]

Heinni would want to add a few different questions to her repatoire

Especially if sky continue to make us watch interviews

Mysterypunter

Deeper Blue wrote: »

I have no doubt McIntyre is talented, and maybe he'll make the top 10 some day, however with the way Sky hype him up it's as if he's had a career similar to someone like Hovland (who's not even top 10 yet himself).

He's done nothing of note so far apart from draw with a woefully out of form DJ at the matchplay. Last week at the British Masters Sky had awarded him the title after 2 rounds and he promptly filled his togs on the weekend.

They awarded him the title, and said he will challenge for majors, starting with this one, last year they awarded a tournament in South Africa to Wilco Neinaber, that young skinny fella who hits it miles, they also gave him a masters green jacket. An hour later he was hacking around in the rough, and lost to JB Hansen. Last year in Scotland Tommy Fleetwood won the Scottish open, before losing to Aaron Rai. They are always at that carry on

Deeper Blue

I have no doubt McIntyre is talented, and maybe he'll make the top 10 some day, however with the way Sky hype him up it's as if he's had a career similar to someone like Hovland (who's not even top 10 yet himself).

He's done nothing of note so far apart from draw with a woefully out of form DJ at the matchplay. Last week at the British Masters Sky had awarded him the title after 2 rounds and he promptly filled his togs on the weekend.

eagle eye

McIntyre is massively talented, I call him the next Mickelson seeing as he's a lefty and very aggressive on the course. He's got all the shots, only a matter of time until he's top ten in the world.
And I'm Irish and I don't like the Sky commentary for the most part.

Deeper Blue

I like Robert Mcintyre but Christ almighty Sky go overboard on the hype for him.

In the last 10 minutes Dougherty said he could be as good as Monty or Lyle and Radar said he's one of the best putters he's ever seen.

This is the same Mcintyre that has won one tournament, a micky mouse gimmicky one in Cyprus last year.

He's also 73rd in strokes gained putting on the European Tour this season. The same Euro tour that's had probably its weakest ever fields over the last year.

GillLebowski

In fairness, they did show most players who were relying on shots to make the cut, and with Thomas being the biggest of those names he got more time. And I'm guessing Rory, Brooks and JT were a featured group again?

I understand it's Sky and stuff... But more than any of the other things bothering me. Why did they show Casey so much? I'm guessing it's because he's English as my guess that when he finished they'd start showing Westwood and the rest became true...

Mysterypunter

Penalty wrote: »

It’s getting ridiculous now JT is 7 over and we are looking at every shot while the don’t bother to show Louis out of the bunker at 17

But JT is an American hero and he was grinding despite not having his best stuff. This is the usual commentary speak for he's playing like a high handicapper. They won't be showing him tomorrow