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Neighbourhood Watch Merged Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Does anyone know what was happening in the Ashtown area late last night? Saw some social media posts of what must have been 20 to 30 Garda cars passing through the area with lights flashing and a Garda helicopter as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Phil.x wrote: »
    I seen two girls eating pizza from plates under that bridge, obviously from the apartments beside it.

    Classy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    PerryB78 wrote: »
    Is that the little tubby lad? I've heard him arranging deals on his phone so he's not discreet about it, must think hes Tony Montana or something. He'll get his comeuppance one day if he keeps it up, these lads always do

    Yes, I've seen him today, he's upgrade his Nike jacket for the jacket of aspiring druggies, the Canadian goose, but he still has his black and grey nike track bottoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Does anyone know what was happening in the Ashtown area late last night? Saw some social media posts of what must have been 20 to 30 Garda cars passing through the area with lights flashing and a Garda helicopter as well.

    Apparently some elderly pensioner from Clonsilla breached the 5km rule to shop at the new Aldi in Ashtown for the Thursday specials and appropriate Gardaí action was swiftly implemented!


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭PerryB78


    Phil.x wrote: »
    Yes, I've seen him today, he's upgrade his Nike jacket for the jacket of aspiring druggies, the Canadian goose, but he still has his black and grey nike track bottoms.

    Clown will stick out even more now


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  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭Praetorian22


    Unfortunately the latest development down there seems to be an intrusion on the local farmers land. Two days in a row I've seen 4/5 scrotes in the grazing field (closest to Hansfield train station) harassing the cattle in there. Recording them with their phones while running at them. From what I've seen it's a case of the teenagers trying to provoke the cows in the hope that they chase them maybe? Perhaps in time the cattle will run at them and give them a good trample.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Unfortunately the latest development down there seems to be an intrusion on the local farmers land. Two days in a row I've seen 4/5 scrotes in the grazing field (closest to Hansfield train station) harassing the cattle in there. Recording them with their phones while running at them. From what I've seen it's a case of the teenagers trying to provoke the cows in the hope that they chase them maybe? Perhaps in time the cattle will run at them and give them a good trample.

    Farmer can put a bull in the herd and we'll see how attentive the little ones are! (In fairness, not a great idea, I could see them getting their free legal aid to sue the pants off the farmer afterward.)

    In other news, I note a fair few residents up in Hollywoodrath pushing for community CCTV over the rise in antisocial behavior around the playground, imported by teenagers from nearby estates coming over to hassle folks. I do wonder about the effectiveness of community CCTV (and the uncertain legal status these days) but for now I imagine the estate is in the netherworld between developer and handover to Fingal CC, so not much to do for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭wildlifeboy


    did any of you see the video of George nchenko brother and mother being arrested?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    did any of you see the video of George nchenko brother and mother being arrested?

    I'm not sure there's any profit in commenting on any of that craic, there's a few videos carefully curated to make either the Gardai or the family and friends look like antagonists. I'm sure there will be plenty of official investigations and further complaints made to GSOC etc to figure it all out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    I'm not sure there's any profit in commenting on any of that craic, there's a few videos carefully curated to make either the Gardai or the family and friends look like antagonists. I'm sure there will be plenty of official investigations and further complaints made to GSOC etc to figure it all out.

    So the Guards doing their job are now antagonists.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    not yet wrote: »
    So the Guards doing their job are now antagonists.

    The point that was being made is that videos can be cut to make either side look bad, regardless of what happened. No sense in getting drawn into it unless you were there and know the whole story.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    not yet wrote: »
    So the Guards doing their job are now antagonists.

    That's not what he said at all. What he said is that there are videos edited in such a way as to make the Gardai look heavy-handed, aggressive or whatever, not that they definitely were any of those things. And similarly there are videos carefully edited to portray the other side in a bad light too. Only by viewing the original, unedited videos can a proper picture emerge, but the problem is that many people may have viewed the edited versions first and formed their own, potentially incorrect opinions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Zaph wrote: »
    That's not what he said at all. What he said is that there are videos edited in such a way as to make the Gardai look heavy-handed, aggressive or whatever, not that they definitely were any of those things. And similarly there are videos carefully edited to portray the other side in a bad light too. Only by viewing the original, unedited videos can a proper picture emerge, but the problem is that many people may have viewed the edited versions first and formed their own, potentially incorrect opinions.

    Precisely this and VonLuck's point. There's also the matter of understanding why the Gardai were there in the first place. One story from one side is that they were following a driver who had no tax or insurance. The other story is that they are harassing either the family or the black community in D15. There's a third viewpoint that they were following a car, ended up at the family home, and the situation escalated either because the family and friends were noncooperative or because the Gardai saw a chance to harrass them.

    Each of these various storylines and edits of the video tend to conform to a previously held worldview of the person issuing or re-issuing the story.

    Rocking up and speculating on the whole thing is either an exercise in significant supposition or arguing with people who had their viewpoints set the moment they heard "Nkencho" and "Gardai" in the same sentence.

    As I said, very little to be profited from it. And in a more on-topic theme, hopefully Gardai and the community can get onto firmer footing with one another in the near future as it is to nobody's benefit in Dublin 15 to have significant friction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    did any of you see the video of George nchenko brother and mother being arrested?

    From what I gather from a resident there, the guards was called to deal with the 16 year old brother, his mother and sister got all worked up and the sister threatened the guards. All allegedly I may add but seeing that the family keeps getting moved for anti social behaviour I believe it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Clamper at work in ongar car done outside pub on yellow line .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Clamper at work in ongar car done outside pub on yellow line .

    Good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Clamper at work in ongar car done outside pub on yellow line .

    As far as I'm aware you can only park on the main road and at dunnes carpark.
    The management company won't sell a parking permit to residents who haven't paid the yearly maintenance charge and run the risk of having their car/s clamped outside their homes.(excluding driveway)
    But I've seen many clamps removed and left at the roadside, this morning was the latest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    In fairness the car i saw clamped this morning was on yellow lines at the side door of the pub almost at the junction bad place to park so no surprise it was clamped have seen parts of clamps around the back of the newsagent shop so obviously removed by somebody themselves .Little choice but to park in Dunnes now if you are calling in for something in any shop or buiness to be on the safe side .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    In fairness the car i saw clamped this morning was on yellow lines at the side door of the pub almost at the junction bad place to park so no surprise it was clamped have seen parts of clamps around the back of the newsagent shop so obviously removed by somebody themselves .Little choice but to park in Dunnes now if you are calling in for something in any shop or buiness to be on the safe side .

    There are some idiot parking in ongar alright. I was parked in the parking bay outside the thai place by romeos ri something and the owner and then the delivery driver then parked at the side of me blocking me in. Lucky the delivery lad had moved when i was coming back to car but the owner was sat in his and got out to walk around the corner. When I called out to him to move his car he told me to reverse even though there was a car behind me. He said that the shop was his and he could park there. Which was face on to the Curb on double yellow. He seems to think that the parking bays outside his shop is his. Anyone know if he is the same chap that took over darios iin coolmine who apparently isnt a fan of the irish public?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    That street the car was clamped today is forever clogged up with cars and you nearly always see one parked at the off licence side as well more or less blocking the street.No big fan of clampers but some order needs to be kept in areas like this .That junction can be a bit of a free for all with cars and pedestrians crossing in all directions surprised nobody has bee knocked down .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I must say I don't bother my backside with Ongar at all anymore purely because of the parking mess and the lack of safety around Dunnes for pedestrians and generally really. Its a mess, especially after dark.

    Between Littlepace and Clonee village and the occasional spin to the new big Super Valu in Dunboyne, theres nothing I want to come to Ongar for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    There are some idiot parking in ongar alright. I was parked in the parking bay outside the thai place by romeos ri something and the owner and then the delivery driver then parked at the side of me blocking me in. Lucky the delivery lad had moved when i was coming back to car but the owner was sat in his and got out to walk around the corner. When I called out to him to move his car he told me to reverse even though there was a car behind me. He said that the shop was his and he could park there. Which was face on to the Curb on double yellow. He seems to think that the parking bays outside his shop is his. Anyone know if he is the same chap that took over darios iin coolmine who apparently isnt a fan of the irish public?

    He's not doing much to entice new customers with that attitude or occupying spaces that potential customers could use.

    Another idiot parked up from Romayos yesterday at the junction opposite the Chinese thus blocking two way traffic. I see they put steel poles outside the Computer shop to stop notorious bad parking and obstruction there but offenders are just parking / blocking further up instead.

    The pedestrian crossing outside Pavlovs bakery is a dangerous blind spot too. Normally zebra crossings have a a no parking zone about 2 car lengths before and after the crossing for visibility but not here. You can never see pedestrians attempting to cross at this one until the last second. I dread hearing about some bad accident there soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    I heard that the Ongar Green ManCo are introducing parking permits for the houses. Anybody else hear this at the AGM?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    wonder if there are even enough spaces available to park i suppose there must be one for each house but seems most of the spaces next to a house are taken and if there are house shares could mean a lot of cars to park meaning almost none for shoppers etc bar Dunnes .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Two kids no older than 12 were on the roof of the paddocks and threw a concrete slab off the roof outside the off licence entrance, I was inside and it sounded like somebody was falling through the roof.
    They climbed down somewhere at the back and walked through the carpark but one ran when confronted by the big guy who works there, the kid who stayed was about 8 or 9!

    Maybe its because Littlepace and ongar are like a ghost town around 9pm so more places to "play" and nearly kill someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭horse7


    Not a neighborhood watch topic, but can someone explain the planned new road at the town centre flyover and this area?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    horse7 wrote: »
    Not a neighborhood watch topic, but can someone explain the planned new road at the town centre flyover and this area?

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057695640/9/#post117131953


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭donaghs


    These fellas seem a bit out of place in Castleknock?

    "TWO BROTHERS WHO harassed a family to the point where they felt their home was “under siege” because of a debt they said the victims’ son owed."

    https://www.thejournal.ie/jailed-brothers-harassed-family-5443045-May2021/

    Looking closer, they seems to have had a good start in life:
    "The court heard that Hughes came from a very respectable family and had both been well-educated at Belvedere College."

    Although, this guy seems more like a random nutter:
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/teenager-who-impersonated-garda-and-attacked-man-avoids-jail-1.4565436


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭horse7


    Doesn't matter what school they went to, pat Kenny went to O,Connells school as did Christy Kinahan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭donaghs


    horse7 wrote: »
    Doesn't matter what school they went to, pat Kenny went to O,Connells school as did Christy Kinahan.

    Shouldn’t make a difference to judging the crime and the sentence, but you don’t need to be statistician to see that crime and socio-economic status have noticeable patterns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    donaghs wrote: »
    Shouldn’t make a difference to judging the crime and the sentence, but you don’t need to be statistician to see that crime and socio-economic status have noticeable patterns.

    Individuals who have sociopathic tendencies and who hold higher education qualifications, nothing new there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭wildlifeboy


    local whatsapp group reported a man flashing last Saturday around 6 pm. funnily enough i was drinking cans with my mates there from 7 and didnt see anyone about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭horse7


    Thanks for the information, were all very happy for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Anywhere in particular or just generally touring around with his lad out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Shooting in Whitechapel. Member of AGS shot in the leg/foot apparently.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭rameire


    One shot in hand.
    One shot in foot.
    Still an active shooting incident.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,139 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Just saw some videos on Twitter. Hope everyone is ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    A Garda shot in D15. Given the disgraceful stuff being spread about local Gardai by certain local councillors and former TD's since late last December, I look forward to their complete ignoring of this incident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    A Garda shot in D15. Given the disgraceful stuff being spread about local Gardai by certain local councillors and former TD's since late last December, I look forward to their complete ignoring of this incident.

    Oh really? Any information in the public domain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭KGLady


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Oh really? Any information in the public domain?

    Ongoing incident so there's a media blackout requested by the Gardaí, but there's plenty of videos on social media. Whitechapel Grove, well known criminal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    KGLady wrote: »
    Ongoing incident so there's a media blackout requested by the Gardaí, but there's plenty of videos on social media. Whitechapel Grove, well known criminal.

    I meant about certain public representatives dissing Gardaí, I'd like to tackle them about it.

    As for the media blackout, the Gangland thread has the name, that he is now dead and that two AGS were wounded, both in the foot. A slightly pointless blackout if true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭KGLady


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I meant about certain public representatives dissing Gardaí, I'd like to tackle them about it.

    Ah I misread, and I'd agree with you 100% such things should be challenged, however I'd expect the same response as usual from our former TD - to deflect and label anyone calling her out as a liar. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    From videos doing the rounds it seems the two plain clothes Gardaí both received minor looking injuries to the foot. Hopefully that proves to be the case.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Very funny video on twitter of an ERU Garda walking past a house armed with an MP7 and a tall bag of Sniper gear on his back.

    Lad in the front garden: "Goin' fishin' pal?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭horse7




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,356 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Really?

    Yeah, he gave himself up videos, pictures all going around, gardais hit in arm and foot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭donaghs


    Yeah, he gave himself up videos, pictures all going around, gardais hit in arm and foot

    Read a few articles, but anymore details on how all this actually started? "The gardaí originally attended the address following reports of an incident. The man then blocked himself into the house, firing an automatic weapon at the officers. "

    Don't understand why a criminal, rather than actual crazy person would be blasting at Gardai with an automatic weapon. What outcome was he hoping for? Its one way to guarantee an long sentence in our normally lenient system.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    'Criminal' and 'actual crazy person' as you put it, are not mutually exclusive.


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