starkid wrote: » whats good for the goose and all that... If SF and the left can call out Leo over a jacket or whatnot then anybody taking issue with their being a story written about Pearse's house can **** right off. Many people are sick of their hypocrisy. Its not just that man builds house shocker, its man that never ever shuts up about posh boys, housing, the wealthy, builds really nice gaff in nice area. there's just the slightest whiff of hypocrisy or ivory towerism, and its good to have it recorded.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Encouraging results for the Shinners here. LucidTalk DUP on 16% (-3% from Jan) SF largest party 25% (+1) Alliance 16% (-2) UUP 14% (+2) SDLP 12% (-1) TUV 11% (+1) Edwin Poots worst personal rating of any NI politician - 62% brand him bad/awfulhttps://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/belfast-telegraph-opinion-poll-northern-irelands-changing-political-landscape-as-support-for-parties-revealed-40453232.html
drdidlittle wrote: » Or 75% don't support SF?
FrancieBrady wrote: » :D Well if you were looking for solace...one could say you found it.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » But SF want the %social housing increased from 10% to 20% in private estates.
drdidlittle wrote: » Learent that trick from you.... Tks. Great to learn from a master ðŸ‘ðŸ‘����
FrancieBrady wrote: » The reality of how many 'don't' support a party only needs to be pointed out to those making grandiose claims that a 'majority' supports their party. So, putting that to one side. These are encouraging results for SF...discuss?
Finty Lemon wrote: » Support for pro Union parties at close to 60%
Fionn1952 wrote: » Alliance are not a Pro-Union party. They specifically position themselves as not taking a position on the constitutional question and as an alternative to the green/orange politics of the North. It hugely demeans what they stand for when you try and shoehorn them into one camp or another for petty point scoring. Support for pro-Union parties is at 41% as per that poll. Support for pro-Unification parties is at 37%. Why sacrifice credibility to make a point that stands without the lies? At least it's not as bad as previous claims that they support NI Separatism I suppose.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Alliance are going to be a 'Unionist' party today. Tomorrow a repository for the 'Northern Irish' Identity.
Deleted User wrote: » The SDLP, Greens, UUP, and the Alliance Party are all in firing line for the tired old nationalists in SF and the DUP. The world is starting to move on without them.
CDarby wrote: » Obviously you are looking at a different poll than everyone else. Alliance and sdlp down, Sinn Fein, UUP and TUV all up. DUP on 16% (-3% from Jan) SF largest party 25% (+1) Alliance 16% (-2) UUP 14% (+2) SDLP 12% (-1) TUV 11% (+1) No doubt your bedfellows will be along soon to tell us Sinn Fein are looking at being obliterated in the next election again. Utter denial.
FullyComp wrote: » If those numbers translate into seats Poots will become FM. Sinn Fein once again are not up to the job
blanch152 wrote: » Nationalist vote at 37%, over on the United Ireland thread, you would be dismissing this poll as unrepresentative. Unionist vote at either 41% or 57%, depending on whether you consider the Alliance to be unionist or not today.
Fionn1952 wrote: » May as well say its a 53% vote in favour of joining the Klingon Empire if we're just going to assign parties to supporting various things even when they explicitly state that they don't hold a position on it. What's with your constant disingenuous presentation of Alliance Party? They're quite clear on their position for anyone with a modicum of interest in honest debate.
blanch152 wrote: » That's funny, for the United Irelanders to get to 50%, they have to take 80% of the Alliance vote. Even Francie is not going to seriously suggest that is possible.
[Deleted User] wrote: » The Alliance Party are the canary in the mine for the tired 'dem un' nationalism of the DUP and SF. The SDLP also have some excellent performers. The UUP definitely have a challenge on their hands to bring younger unionists along a journey, but it seems this Beatty lad is a moderate. Poots and O'Neill is the very definition of misery.
downcow wrote: » Recent poll of alliance voters showed them as 75% supporting union
Fionn1952 wrote: » They are not a Unionist Party, designating them as such totally undermines what the party stands for. Saying, 'support for Unionist Parties stands at ____" and including votes for Alliance in that number is very clearly and obviously wrong. By voting for Alliance, one is not expressing an opinion either way on the issue, many may (softly) support continuation of the Union, some may (softly) support Unification, but it clearly isn't a core voting issue for these people, hence their decision to vote for a non-designated party. I'd also be very interested in reading the source for that figure; I'm not casting doubt over it (I would've imagined a very significant percentage of the Alliance vote to come from soft Unionists, though obviously more open to persuasion to supporting Unification than the average DUP voter), I'd just like to see the breakdown.
Arbuckle wrote: » Where did you see that.
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