Following on from
this thread
Please remain civil or posting privileges will be removed
Wanderer78 wrote: » Effectively expanding the public sector, best of luck with that one, it makes sense in ways, but there probably would be up roar. You d probably have to deal with unionisation, pensions, etc etc etc. Public funding isn't even much of an issue, and we can't even get over this hurdle, so.......
timmyntc wrote: » Public funding is THE biggest issue. Otherwise the state could tender the building of all these units, instead of setting up a state building dept. The state is limited in what it can borrow due to EU fiscal rules. Cant run deficits if Debt to GDP is over 60%. Cant run deficits more than a few % every year, etc.
costacorta wrote: » At least they have the balls to go into government and not just sit on opposition benches moaning day in day out and never doing sweet FA .Remember hearing the same story last time greens were in government that they would never again be heard of ? .
costacorta wrote: » At least they have the balls to go into government and not just sit on opposition benches moaning day in day out and never doing sweet FA . Remember hearing the same story last time greens were in government that they would never again be heard of ? .
costacorta wrote: » But it’s true , I know the shinners don’t like to admit it . We see what kind of job SF do when trying to govern in NI they just run away every time they have a problem and wait for the UK and Irish governments to come and sort it out .. Sad but true
Floppybits wrote: » It's not true. It is nothing but a soundbite given out as excuse to the formation of this government. The dogs on the street know that no government could be formed without 2 of FF, FG and SF. SF tried it and it didn't work. FF would not talk to SF due to Martin being obsessed with being Taoiseach and went cap in hand to FG and now we are all paying for that with crisis after crisis. Simple as that now you can keep spinning your yarn that has been taken apart on here time and time again and look foolish but anyone with an ounce of sense knows what you are saying is a yarn and the Martin sold out FF so he could become Taoiseach.
costacorta wrote: » . Ah the same old rubbish from SF nobody wants to talk to us .. They had a chance of forming a government same as rest of parties but ran away to the opposition benches where they know it’s easier to moan moan moan rather than try and govern..
Wanderer78 wrote: » oh dont worry, i think their chance is just about to come about again, and i think they ll take it this time, along side ff, ff will go in for the 'good of the country', i.e. to save themselves!
Floppybits wrote: » The thing is will FF get enough seats in the next election?
costacorta wrote: » . Ah the same old rubbish from SF nobody wants to talk to us .. They had a chance of forming a government same as rest of parties b
Loafing Oaf wrote: » No they didn't. The numbers weren't there.
Floppybits wrote: » Everyone knows the numbers weren't there, it just suit the opponents of SF to repeat that line ad nauseum to justify this government.
costacorta wrote: » Again typical SF rubbish!! They have more TDS than FG and same number as FF ? BUT BUT BUT .. Always the victims .
costacorta wrote: » Really !!! Numbers weren’t there for FF or FG either ? SF on the other hand ran when they thought for a second that they might be able to form a government. if you take FF|G seats away I’m sure SF had enough to try and make a govt ?? So please stop trotting out the same old rubbish that the numbers weren’t there for SF .
costacorta wrote: » Really !!! Numbers weren’t there for FF or FG either ? SF on the other hand ran when they thought for a second that they might be able to form a government. if you take FF|G seats away I’m sure SF had enough to try and make a govt ??
Loafing Oaf wrote: » In theory. But it would have required the support of every left wing party and over half of the independents, many of whom are not progressive in any way shape or form and would never have supported an SF-led government in a million years.
Mad_maxx wrote: » id be in favour of the government embarking on a huge social housing building spree but with several changes 1. building spec should be lower , its too high right now even for the private market , social housing should be no frills , unfortunately in todays uber PC world , the opposition and media would trash the government for not treating everyone the same in terms of housing standards 2. anyone who goes into a social house is evicted within six months if they quite paying their rent , SF and the rest of the far left oppose evictions under any circumstances so that again is a problem 3. rent in social housing needs to increase drastically , currently people on average pay 400 euro per month for social housing , increase it to twice that in dublin city , if those living there cant afford it , move them to social housing outside dublin where social housing rents can be lower 4. anyone in social housing who is acting the b0ll0cks re_ anti social behaviour gets one warning and are then turfed out . currently we just allow them run riot in their neighbourhoods , again SF and the rest of the far left vehemently oppose these people being evicted we cant have everything , the trouble is too many people want everything for nothing and this extends to housing, in the social democracy meccas of Scanadanavia and Germany etc , social housing tenants still must adhere to rules , that must change here
Floppybits wrote: » Surely Michael Martin would not make a mistake such as this.https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1395755589293252614
RandomViewer wrote: » Handiest way to sort this is for banks to say €300k is maximum mortgage for residential property, watch prices align accordingly
Oymyakon wrote: » Except that does nothing to improve the supply, the same number of people will still be locked out of home ownership.
titan18 wrote: » If the cost to build is too high, it just means builders won't build then. Only thing government should be doing is driving down that cost and encouraging building through incentives for housing over other projects. Everything else they've done has just made it worse. Sorting out height limits and overruling all the city/county councils would also be welcome.
RandomViewer wrote: » Anything over 8 stories will become a slum, landlords won't keep elevators maintained so nobody but skangers will live , the actual cost of materials/ labour isn't that high, stupid site prices and Architect and planning fees add a lot,
FullyComp wrote: » Ah Jaysis I've heard it all now. Someone should tell the lads living in the Shard it's a slum