Random EV thoughts.....

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/19/22442777/ford-f-150-lightning-electric-truck-specs-price

New thread for F150?

“The real standout charging feature is exclusive to the versions of the F-150 Lightning powered by the extended range battery: Ford is including a new 80-amp home charging station that not only fully charges the F-150 Lightning in eight hours but allows owners to easily power their entire home for around three days in the event of an electricity outage.

The ability to draw power from the battery pack isn’t limited to these extreme scenarios, though. All of the base trims of the F-150 Lightning can put out 2.4kW of onboard power, and the more expensive Lariat and Platinum trims offer a total of 9.6kW of onboard power. The more expensive F-150 Lightnings also have 11 built-in power sockets — seven in the cab and bed, including a 240V outlet, and four in the front trunk — plus a handful of USB ports. “

cannco253 wrote: »

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/19/22442777/ford-f-150-lightning-electric-truck-specs-price

New thread for F150?

“The real standout charging feature is exclusive to the versions of the F-150 Lightning powered by the extended range battery: Ford is including a new 80-amp home charging station that not only fully charges the F-150 Lightning in eight hours but allows owners to easily power their entire home for around three days in the event of an electricity outage.

The ability to draw power from the battery pack isn’t limited to these extreme scenarios, though. All of the base trims of the F-150 Lightning can put out 2.4kW of onboard power, and the more expensive Lariat and Platinum trims offer a total of 9.6kW of onboard power. The more expensive F-150 Lightnings also have 11 built-in power sockets — seven in the cab and bed, including a 240V outlet, and four in the front trunk — plus a handful of USB ports. “

Probably the only pickup, and the only Ford, I'd ever want to buy

Looks great tbh, no doubt it'll sell well in the US, maybe they'll bring it over here as well

Went online, you have to be in the US to reserve. BOOOOO

ELM327 wrote: »

Went online, you have to be in the US to reserve. BOOOOO

I hear Joe Biden would buy one, maybe you can put his name down

Might use his name, sure he'd probably forget ordering it anyway!

Looks like it's not coming to Europe.
Might have to grey import one if the cybertruck is not sold here. I'd be happier driving an out of market ford (as I have done already) vs an out of market tesla.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ford-f-150-lightning-563bhp-electric-pick-truck-revealed

MJohnston

There surely must be cheaper ways to get your neighbours to hate you!

MJohnston wrote: »

There surely must be cheaper ways to get your neighbours to hate you!

Well like I said one of our neighbours has a ranger and the main reasons it's disliked is because of the loud engine and obnoxious driving

An electric F150 would solve one ofthose problems at least

https://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general-news-public-notices-press-releases/dlr-pilot-ireland%E2%80%99s-first-disabled-accessible-ev

Are there many blue badge ev locations in the UK?

cannco253 wrote: »

https://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general-news-public-notices-press-releases/dlr-pilot-ireland%E2%80%99s-first-disabled-accessible-ev

Are there many blue badge ev locations in the UK?

It's actually a very good idea, there should be a priority charger at hubs for people with limited mobility or other special needs.

Ideally there should also be an attendant who can help plug the car in and start the charger. A CCS plug can be pretty heavy, not sure how an 80 year old with a walker frame is going to plug in to a HPC

Of course we don't have many hubs with enough chargers that you could dedicate a priority one, so it's something of a moot point anyway

innrain

cannco253 wrote: »

https://www.dlrcoco.ie/en/news/general-news-public-notices-press-releases/dlr-pilot-ireland%E2%80%99s-first-disabled-accessible-ev

Are there many blue badge ev locations in the UK?

Beside this particular charging point presentation which the cynic in me sees it as a PR stunt, reading through I found the company in charge to be https://char.gy/ie which it seems to be an UK company but with presence (1 charger) here. Scroll down and see the prices. Also browsing through the website it seems all they are offering is max 7kW
Trying to get my head around the pricing:
PAYG 45c/kwh
Monthly, called Casual is 45quid/month includes 200kWh then 33c/kWh but also 45c/kWh what is in excess (of what I don't get it)
There is also Unlimited for 99 quid a month.

Is this what councils are planning? Being 100% more expensive than SuC?
One probably needs their head checked if planing to use such a charger and they may qualify for a badge.

innrain wrote: »

Beside this particular charging point presentation which the cynic in me sees it as a PR stunt, reading through I found the company in charge to be https://char.gy/ie which it seems to be an UK company but with presence (1 charger) here. Scroll down and see the prices. Also browsing through the website it seems all they are offering is max 7kW
Trying to get my head around the pricing:
PAYG 45c/kwh
Monthly, called Casual is 45quid/month includes 200kWh then 33c/kWh but also 45c/kWh what is in excess (of what I don't get it)
There is also Unlimited for 99 quid a month.

Is this what councils are planning? Being 100% more expensive than SuC?
One probably needs their head checked if planing to use such a charger and they may qualify for a badge.

Well it is in Dundrum, if they priced it low then the riff raff might blow in

I'm hoping that people with mobility issues are able to charge for free (parhaps by registering beforehand) and the price for everyone else is higher to stop the charger getting abused

What's the bet DLR council didn't think of that?

https://electrek.co/2021/05/21/tesla-fastned-create-energy-superhub-charging-station/

"Tesla and Fastned, a Dutch charging network, are creating what they call an ‘Energy Superhub,’ a large dual-branded charging station in Oxford.
The Fastned station will have up to 14 fast chargers and there will be 12 Tesla Superchargers on site. The hub is due to open at the end of 2021."

Nice looking place to charge in...

embraer170

cannco253 wrote: »

https://electrek.co/2021/05/21/tesla-fastned-create-energy-superhub-charging-station/

"Tesla and Fastned, a Dutch charging network, are creating what they call an ‘Energy Superhub,’ a large dual-branded charging station in Oxford.
The Fastned station will have up to 14 fast chargers and there will be 12 Tesla Superchargers on site. The hub is due to open at the end of 2021."

Nice looking place to charge in...

There is already one of those in Germany at Kreuz Hilden between Cologne and Dusseldorf.

fastned-tesla-baecker-schueren-hilden-tesvolt-2020-04-min.png

fastned-tesla-baecker-schueren-hilden-tesvolt-2020-04-min.png

innrain

cannco253 wrote: »

https://electrek.co/2021/05/21/tesla-fastned-create-energy-superhub-charging-station/

"Tesla and Fastned, a Dutch charging network, are creating what they call an ‘Energy Superhub,’ a large dual-branded charging station in Oxford.
The Fastned station will have up to 14 fast chargers and there will be 12 Tesla Superchargers on site. The hub is due to open at the end of 2021."

Nice looking place to charge in...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news-environment/europes-most-powerful-ev-charging-hub-open-oxford-year
It seems there will be a third company there. 10 MW total the equivalent of 200 ecars rapids. How many PHEVs can charge here.

innrain wrote: »

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news-environment/europes-most-powerful-ev-charging-hub-open-oxford-year
It seems there will be a third company there. 10 MW total the equivalent of 200 ecars rapids. How many PHEVs can charge here.

16 from the looks of it

Wenea will install 16 of these additional chargers. These chargers will be rated at 7-22kW and compatible with most EVs.

https://www.electrive.com/2021/05/20/dpd-ireland-plans-to-utilise-another-100-electric-vans/

“To operate the 100 electric vehicles to be purchased over the next 18 months, the company plans to equip ten depots with charging infrastructure, electrifying 250 short- and medium-haul routes. By 2023, the operation of all of the company’s depots in the country is to be completely converted to renewable energy.”

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Well like I said one of our neighbours has a ranger and the main reasons it's disliked is because of the loud engine and obnoxious driving

An electric F150 would solve one ofthose problems at least

In an amusing development my neighbour who has the pickup now wants the electric F150. He's a big petrolhead and does huge mileage so would probably have been one of the last people to convert

Just shows people will be interested once the right EV comes along

Too bad they aren't selling them here, maybe they'll come out with an electric Raptor soon

SteelyDanJalapeno

Are the grants disappearing in July?
What's the best range phev out there in Ireland?

Been looking at the new Seat Leon estate phev, claims about 40-50 miles on elec, tbh I'd be happy with 30.

Anything else that would match that in the 32k euro range

innrain

Came across this website https://openinframap.org/#6.46/53.476/-6.847 where we can see the grid and its capacity.
Quite interesting for a geek.

KCross

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »

Are the grants disappearing in July?

Depends.

The new rules from 1 July 2021 are....
Grant
Reduced grant of €2500 for some PHEV's. Others get nothing if they dont meet range/emission requirements.
€5000 for BEV's
but only if RRP is <€60k

VRT relief
VRT relief already gone for all hybrids and PHEVs
BEV - Up to €5k but no relief for €50k+ cars

To know if the PHEV you are looking at still qualifies after 1 Jul you would need to check the spec/price and check with the dealer.

pdpmur

This battery technology looks interesting...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltaylor/2021/05/13/ev-range-breakthrough-as-new-aluminum-ion-battery-charges-60-times-faster-than-lithium-ion/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

If what's being reported is accurate then it would be a big jump forward in battery technology and a solution to the rare-earth-mineral issue.

daddy_boy

innrain wrote: »

Came across this website https://openinframap.org/#6.46/53.476/-6.847 where we can see the grid and its capacity.
Quite interesting for a geek.

I must be a geek

Redfox25

It looks interesting but there is alot of groud to cover between what they have to whats in your EV.
Lots of break throughs or near break throughs can only be a good thing.

Just saw a bit of Bjorn's livestream of the E-Tron GT. The results were pretty amazing

(Spoiler below, in case you want to wait for the video)

E-Tron GT did 1000km challenge in 9:35, 15 mins faster than Model S LR. E-Tron GT is now the fastest EV on the table

I find those 1000 km challenges fascinating but a little misleading.
On a long trip I'd always charge to 90%+ to minimise stops. If you charged the taycan/etronGT to 90% at each stop it woudl change the 22 minutes to 35.

ELM327 wrote: »

I find those 1000 km challenges fascinating but a little misleading.
On a long trip I'd always charge to 90%+ to minimise stops. If you charged the taycan/etronGT to 90% at each stop it woudl change the 22 minutes to 35.

True, there is a balance of speed versus convenience. However the challenge is to do is as fast as possible, hence the short charging stops

We'll have to wait for the video to see how many charging stops he did, but my guess would be 4, so average 200km between stops. Not bad considering you'd probably be looking at 2 hours driving with a 15 mins break. Driving distances like that you'd probably be taken more breaks anyway as you'd be pretty exhausted

I think 1000km is pretty unrealistic for Irish drivers, you'd struggle to find 1000km stretch of road in this country. Perhaps a 500km or 700km challenge would be more useful for us

I think the key aspect of it is to measure what the limiting factor of driving long distance is, the car or the driver. For ICE cars, the driver is the limiting factor. For older EVs, it was the car, you had to wait for it to charge. With this latest generation of EVs, it's going back to the car waiting for the driver

Once that is commonplace then I think it'll be the tipping point for EV conversion