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Dacia new models 2020/2021

BrianD3

I read on challenges.fr that the new Sandero is to be revealed next month with first deliveries in France towards the end of the year. The new car is said to be on a simplified Clio platform, not sure if it is the current Clio or the one launched in 2012. If the strength of the new Sandero body is similar to that of either Clio generation, it should result in a big improvement in safety.

I had a 201 Logan MCV on loan recenty, was quite impressed by it, the only aspect that was truly bad was ride comfort/body control on bog roads, it was bouncing and lurching very badly. Hopefully a new platform would improve that also.

In general, I like Dacia as a brand and wish they would expand their range here. They have already started offering dual fuel LPG cars. I know a few Eastern Europeans (of whom there are obviously a lot in this country) who cream themselves over both Dacia and LPG so to have both in the same car...:D

I'm just hoping that Dacia doesn't "do a Skoda" and move "upmarket", in fact I wish they would bring in the "poverty spec" versions that they sell in other countries but not here. i'd have no issue driving a car with unpainted bumpers, no aircon and even no radio - I find that I increasingly don't listen to the radio at all and my last two cars have had aircon/climate control which I almost never used.

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monkeysnapper

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

I have a 10 second video clip of it in the showroom, before it was put away. I'll put it up if someone tells me how

Upload to YouTube and post ......

I looked at the dacia website and don't see the logan advertised anymore.....??? Have they dropped it...?

I nearly bought a login petrol 3 years ago and last min got a hyundai i40 esstate ....

Eggs For Dinner

monkeysnapper wrote: »

Well wear .... take a picture and stick on here when you get it ...

I have a 10 second video clip of it in the showroom, before it was put away. I'll put it up if someone tells me how

[Deleted User]

Went for the blue. Kinda wish I'd gone up in spec tbh but the only thing I really want to change is the wheels. 15 inch alloys are nice and cheap though as it turns out. :pac:

AMKC

Deleted User wrote: »

Picked up a new Sandero last week. Happy out with it so far. Stock seems to be an issue and lead times are indefinite.
For the money I'm absolutely delighted. There's a couple of little things I'd change (not much more than anything else I've driven) but getting better fuel economy than my old Focus 1.8tdci with roughly similar performance. Will be doing a long run this weekend and will be using lovely cheap LPG.
Looking at how things are going odds are I could trade it in in 3 years to cover deposit on a new one. Never thought I'd be that person. :pac:

Well wear. Looking forward to seeing some of them on the roads. What colour did you go for? Put a picture up here if you get the chance.

monkeysnapper

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

Ordered a new Sandero today for next month. It has a far amount of decent features for what it is. Don't do much mileage these days and it will suit me perfectly. It's replacing a '07 Focus

Well wear .... take a picture and stick on here when you get it ...

[Deleted User]

PsychoPete wrote: »

You can just press the lpg button as soon as you start the car

From reading around I got the impression it's fine to do once it's turned over alright.

Eggs For Dinner

Ordered a new Sandero today for next month. It has a far amount of decent features for what it is. Don't do much mileage these days and it will suit me perfectly. It's replacing a '07 Focus

PsychoPete

You can just press the lpg button as soon as you start the car

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

How long does it run on Petrol before it switches to the LPG?

Haven't found out for sure yet. :pac: There's a manual switch for it on my one, not sure if I can hit it when the engine is cold in the morning. I'll report back.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

Picked up a new Sandero last week. Happy out with it so far. Stock seems to be an issue and lead times are indefinite.
For the money I'm absolutely delighted. There's a couple of little things I'd change (not much more than anything else I've driven) but getting better fuel economy than my old Focus 1.8tdci with roughly similar performance. Will be doing a long run this weekend and will be using lovely cheap LPG.
Looking at how things are going odds are I could trade it in in 3 years to cover deposit on a new one. Never thought I'd be that person. :pac:

How long does it run on Petrol before it switches to the LPG?

[Deleted User]

Picked up a new Sandero last week. Happy out with it so far. Stock seems to be an issue and lead times are indefinite.
For the money I'm absolutely delighted. There's a couple of little things I'd change (not much more than anything else I've driven) but getting better fuel economy than my old Focus 1.8tdci with roughly similar performance. Will be doing a long run this weekend and will be using lovely cheap LPG.
Looking at how things are going odds are I could trade it in in 3 years to cover deposit on a new one. Never thought I'd be that person. :pac:

transik

Cabaal wrote: »

Yeah but its not as simple as that,
Min wage in Portugal is 4.38, in Ireland it is 10.10.

Dublin is like any capital city, overpriced in comparison to elsewhere in the country. Price of pints etc

Yeah but that 4.38 will take way further in Lisbon then 10.10 in Dublin.

60% of your wages could be spend on housing alone,
I travell a lot, been in quite a feew places all over europe and value for money ratio in dub has to one of the poorest in EU.

And the end od day bread is made from water and flour with we by the way have to import from uk( ONE industrial mil)like anything else

RandomViewer

AMKC wrote: »

Ray-4 lol. I think you mean Rav-4 lol.

Korean auto-correct, that's minor compared to some of the words it puts in

AMKC

RandomViewer wrote: »

I haven't seen any people carriers with newer plates, all Sorrento, Santa fe and Ray 4, theres a 181 Vw thing over the road but it's a Touran I think,

Ray-4 lol. I think you mean Rav-4 lol.

RandomViewer

colm_mcm wrote: »

86 Galaxy and 81 S-Max sold here in 2020.

The 5008 is now a crossover (sold 1235 last year...)

130 Alhambras
57 Sharans

I haven't seen any people carriers with newer plates, all Sorrento, Santa fe and Ray 4, theres a 181 Vw thing over the road but it's a Touran I think,

[Deleted User]

RandomViewer wrote: »

People carriers more or less died 10 years ago, 7 seater SUV took their place

Cue "Dacia Bigster".

[Deleted User]

BrianD3 wrote: »

I was looking at the brochure there, the new Sandero's LPG tank is 50 litre which is fillable to 40 litres.

German pricelist says 50 (zusätzlich 32 für Flüssiggas)
32 litres LPG but when it is costing only 60 cent per litre in Germany you'll make an effort to use it ALL the time. You'd get most benefit from it on a long trip as the car must run on Petrol for the first few minutes while cold on urban trips.

colm_mcm

86 Galaxy and 81 S-Max sold here in 2020.

The 5008 is now a crossover (sold 1235 last year...)

130 Alhambras
57 Sharans

murphyebass

RandomViewer wrote: »

People carriers more or less died 10 years ago, 7 seater SUV took their place

Don’t get me wrong you’re right in that the SUV seems to be what people want for 7 seat options but that doesn’t mean the people carrier is dead. Far from it I’d say.

Look how many Citroen Grand Picasso, S Max and 5008’s are on the road and then you have the bigger versions like the Galaxy, albrahama and sharan.

Dacia should do something like the 5008 in that it’s a people carrier that looks like an SUV, and make it cheap.

AMKC

I seen the new commercial ad is out for the new Sandero on the TV. Seen it recently. Anyone else seen it? It's ok but nothing special the ad. I think Skoda do great as for there cars. Dacia need to do as like that.

BrianD3

I was looking at the brochure there, the new Sandero's LPG tank is 50 litre which is fillable to 40 litres.

The car's WLTP combined economy running on petrol is 48 mpg (50 litre tank) and 38 mpg on LPG (40 litre tank)

So that is a WLTP range of 330 miles on LPG alone, that would do a lot of people for a week's driving and there would be a good fuel cost saving. Pity LPG isn't more widely available here, any chance that there may be more interest in it now?

RandomViewer

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you do the numbers on that deal it’s hard to see how they’re breaking even nevermind making money.

Base model starts at €7600 , every chance they trade the car back after 3 years for a very nominal fee ,possibly upgrading to a better spec model, so while it's not quick money it's constant money

RandomViewer

murphyebass wrote: »

If they priced it keenly I think it’d sell here. Look how many Citroen Picasso 7 seaters or Ford S Max’s are on the road.

Slightly off topic but similarly I think it’s mad that Renault stopped selling the Espace here considering how well the Galaxy, Albrahama and Sharan sell.

People carriers more or less died 10 years ago, 7 seater SUV took their place

[Deleted User]

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you do the numbers on that deal it’s hard to see how they’re breaking even nevermind making money.

They're an absolutely huge German Dealer chain. They know what they're doing and have these sort deals regularly for all their marques but Dacia never offered the sort of margins which allowed them to claim a low "leasing factor" figure.

Back to safety...I just watched a Fiesta review released this morning and the latest Fiesta was released in 2017. The reviewer noted it doesn't offer Automatic Emergency Braking on most of the range in the UK but is still quoting its 2017 EuroNCAP rating. EuroNCAP did themselves a disservice through this cheap publicity stunt.

colm_mcm

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.autohaus-koenig.de/neuwagen/dacia/sandero/730/
That's the sort of deal you won't see in Ireland.
No down-payment. Lease for 5 years at €109 per month with 10,000km allowance per year. 3 years servicing. €29 per month for insurance if you need it.
Who'd run an old car with those sort of prices.

If you do the numbers on that deal it’s hard to see how they’re breaking even nevermind making money.

Cabaal

transik wrote: »

Sick and tired of this aswell.
We overpay for everything here especially in dublin.
4.50€ for a sourdough bread in dunnes .Same bread in lisbon 1€.

Yeah but its not as simple as that,
Min wage in Portugal is 4.38, in Ireland it is 10.10.

Dublin is like any capital city, overpriced in comparison to elsewhere in the country. Price of pints etc

transik

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.autohaus-koenig.de/neuwagen/dacia/sandero/730/
That's the sort of deal you won't see in Ireland.
No down-payment. Lease for 5 years at €109 per month with 10,000km allowance per year. 3 years servicing. €29 per month for insurance if you need it.
Who'd run an old car with those sort of prices.

Sick and tired of this aswell.
We overpay for everything here especially in dublin.
4.50€ for a sourdough bread in dunnes .Same bread in lisbon 1€.

AMKC

murphyebass wrote: »

If they priced it keenly I think it’d sell here. Look how many Citroen Picasso 7 seaters or Ford S Max’s are on the road.

Slightly off topic but similarly I think it’s mad that Renault stopped selling the Espace here considering how well the Galaxy, Albrahama and Sharan sell.

Ye it's a pity they stopped selling that here.

murphyebass

BrianD3 wrote: »

Another Dacia model has been spotted in camouflaged testing in RHD, it is thought that this is a replacement for the Logan MCV and/or the Dokker/Lodgy. Looks seriously practical. Wheel base long for the length of the car, more like the Mk1 Logan MCV (7 seater option) than the Mk2 (5 seat only)

https://www.motor1.com/news/504482/2022-dacia-logan-wagon-spy-photos/

Cool. Definitely one to watch.

BrianD3

murphyebass wrote: »

Any chance they’d bring their 7 seat yolk over here? Would sell well I’d say if the price was right.

Another Dacia model has been spotted in camouflaged testing in RHD, it is thought that this is a replacement for the Logan MCV and/or the Dokker/Lodgy. Looks seriously practical. Wheel base long for the length of the car, more like the Mk1 Logan MCV (7 seater option) than the Mk2 (5 seat only)

https://www.motor1.com/news/504482/2022-dacia-logan-wagon-spy-photos/