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Dacia new models 2020/2021

BrianD3

I read on challenges.fr that the new Sandero is to be revealed next month with first deliveries in France towards the end of the year. The new car is said to be on a simplified Clio platform, not sure if it is the current Clio or the one launched in 2012. If the strength of the new Sandero body is similar to that of either Clio generation, it should result in a big improvement in safety.

I had a 201 Logan MCV on loan recenty, was quite impressed by it, the only aspect that was truly bad was ride comfort/body control on bog roads, it was bouncing and lurching very badly. Hopefully a new platform would improve that also.

In general, I like Dacia as a brand and wish they would expand their range here. They have already started offering dual fuel LPG cars. I know a few Eastern Europeans (of whom there are obviously a lot in this country) who cream themselves over both Dacia and LPG so to have both in the same car...:D

I'm just hoping that Dacia doesn't "do a Skoda" and move "upmarket", in fact I wish they would bring in the "poverty spec" versions that they sell in other countries but not here. i'd have no issue driving a car with unpainted bumpers, no aircon and even no radio - I find that I increasingly don't listen to the radio at all and my last two cars have had aircon/climate control which I almost never used.

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colm_mcm

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https://www.autohaus-koenig.de/neuwagen/dacia/sandero/730/
That's the sort of deal you won't see in Ireland.
No down-payment. Lease for 5 years at €109 per month with 10,000km allowance per year. 3 years servicing. €29 per month for insurance if you need it.
Who'd run an old car with those sort of prices.

If you do the numbers on that deal it’s hard to see how they’re breaking even nevermind making money.

[Deleted User]

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you do the numbers on that deal it’s hard to see how they’re breaking even nevermind making money.

They're an absolutely huge German Dealer chain. They know what they're doing and have these sort deals regularly for all their marques but Dacia never offered the sort of margins which allowed them to claim a low "leasing factor" figure.

Back to safety...I just watched a Fiesta review released this morning and the latest Fiesta was released in 2017. The reviewer noted it doesn't offer Automatic Emergency Braking on most of the range in the UK but is still quoting its 2017 EuroNCAP rating. EuroNCAP did themselves a disservice through this cheap publicity stunt.

RandomViewer

murphyebass wrote: »

If they priced it keenly I think it’d sell here. Look how many Citroen Picasso 7 seaters or Ford S Max’s are on the road.

Slightly off topic but similarly I think it’s mad that Renault stopped selling the Espace here considering how well the Galaxy, Albrahama and Sharan sell.

People carriers more or less died 10 years ago, 7 seater SUV took their place

RandomViewer

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you do the numbers on that deal it’s hard to see how they’re breaking even nevermind making money.

Base model starts at €7600 , every chance they trade the car back after 3 years for a very nominal fee ,possibly upgrading to a better spec model, so while it's not quick money it's constant money

BrianD3

I was looking at the brochure there, the new Sandero's LPG tank is 50 litre which is fillable to 40 litres.

The car's WLTP combined economy running on petrol is 48 mpg (50 litre tank) and 38 mpg on LPG (40 litre tank)

So that is a WLTP range of 330 miles on LPG alone, that would do a lot of people for a week's driving and there would be a good fuel cost saving. Pity LPG isn't more widely available here, any chance that there may be more interest in it now?

AMKC

I seen the new commercial ad is out for the new Sandero on the TV. Seen it recently. Anyone else seen it? It's ok but nothing special the ad. I think Skoda do great as for there cars. Dacia need to do as like that.

murphyebass

RandomViewer wrote: »

People carriers more or less died 10 years ago, 7 seater SUV took their place

Don’t get me wrong you’re right in that the SUV seems to be what people want for 7 seat options but that doesn’t mean the people carrier is dead. Far from it I’d say.

Look how many Citroen Grand Picasso, S Max and 5008’s are on the road and then you have the bigger versions like the Galaxy, albrahama and sharan.

Dacia should do something like the 5008 in that it’s a people carrier that looks like an SUV, and make it cheap.

colm_mcm

86 Galaxy and 81 S-Max sold here in 2020.

The 5008 is now a crossover (sold 1235 last year...)

130 Alhambras
57 Sharans

[Deleted User]

BrianD3 wrote: »

I was looking at the brochure there, the new Sandero's LPG tank is 50 litre which is fillable to 40 litres.

German pricelist says 50 (zusätzlich 32 für Flüssiggas)
32 litres LPG but when it is costing only 60 cent per litre in Germany you'll make an effort to use it ALL the time. You'd get most benefit from it on a long trip as the car must run on Petrol for the first few minutes while cold on urban trips.

[Deleted User]

RandomViewer wrote: »

People carriers more or less died 10 years ago, 7 seater SUV took their place

Cue "Dacia Bigster".

RandomViewer

colm_mcm wrote: »

86 Galaxy and 81 S-Max sold here in 2020.

The 5008 is now a crossover (sold 1235 last year...)

130 Alhambras
57 Sharans

I haven't seen any people carriers with newer plates, all Sorrento, Santa fe and Ray 4, theres a 181 Vw thing over the road but it's a Touran I think,

AMKC

RandomViewer wrote: »

I haven't seen any people carriers with newer plates, all Sorrento, Santa fe and Ray 4, theres a 181 Vw thing over the road but it's a Touran I think,

Ray-4 lol. I think you mean Rav-4 lol.

RandomViewer

AMKC wrote: »

Ray-4 lol. I think you mean Rav-4 lol.

Korean auto-correct, that's minor compared to some of the words it puts in

transik

Cabaal wrote: »

Yeah but its not as simple as that,
Min wage in Portugal is 4.38, in Ireland it is 10.10.

Dublin is like any capital city, overpriced in comparison to elsewhere in the country. Price of pints etc

Yeah but that 4.38 will take way further in Lisbon then 10.10 in Dublin.

60% of your wages could be spend on housing alone,
I travell a lot, been in quite a feew places all over europe and value for money ratio in dub has to one of the poorest in EU.

And the end od day bread is made from water and flour with we by the way have to import from uk( ONE industrial mil)like anything else

[Deleted User]

Picked up a new Sandero last week. Happy out with it so far. Stock seems to be an issue and lead times are indefinite.
For the money I'm absolutely delighted. There's a couple of little things I'd change (not much more than anything else I've driven) but getting better fuel economy than my old Focus 1.8tdci with roughly similar performance. Will be doing a long run this weekend and will be using lovely cheap LPG.
Looking at how things are going odds are I could trade it in in 3 years to cover deposit on a new one. Never thought I'd be that person. :pac:

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

Picked up a new Sandero last week. Happy out with it so far. Stock seems to be an issue and lead times are indefinite.
For the money I'm absolutely delighted. There's a couple of little things I'd change (not much more than anything else I've driven) but getting better fuel economy than my old Focus 1.8tdci with roughly similar performance. Will be doing a long run this weekend and will be using lovely cheap LPG.
Looking at how things are going odds are I could trade it in in 3 years to cover deposit on a new one. Never thought I'd be that person. :pac:

How long does it run on Petrol before it switches to the LPG?

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

How long does it run on Petrol before it switches to the LPG?

Haven't found out for sure yet. :pac: There's a manual switch for it on my one, not sure if I can hit it when the engine is cold in the morning. I'll report back.

PsychoPete

You can just press the lpg button as soon as you start the car

Eggs For Dinner

Ordered a new Sandero today for next month. It has a far amount of decent features for what it is. Don't do much mileage these days and it will suit me perfectly. It's replacing a '07 Focus

[Deleted User]

PsychoPete wrote: »

You can just press the lpg button as soon as you start the car

From reading around I got the impression it's fine to do once it's turned over alright.

monkeysnapper

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

Ordered a new Sandero today for next month. It has a far amount of decent features for what it is. Don't do much mileage these days and it will suit me perfectly. It's replacing a '07 Focus

Well wear .... take a picture and stick on here when you get it ...

AMKC

Deleted User wrote: »

Picked up a new Sandero last week. Happy out with it so far. Stock seems to be an issue and lead times are indefinite.
For the money I'm absolutely delighted. There's a couple of little things I'd change (not much more than anything else I've driven) but getting better fuel economy than my old Focus 1.8tdci with roughly similar performance. Will be doing a long run this weekend and will be using lovely cheap LPG.
Looking at how things are going odds are I could trade it in in 3 years to cover deposit on a new one. Never thought I'd be that person. :pac:

Well wear. Looking forward to seeing some of them on the roads. What colour did you go for? Put a picture up here if you get the chance.

[Deleted User]

Went for the blue. Kinda wish I'd gone up in spec tbh but the only thing I really want to change is the wheels. 15 inch alloys are nice and cheap though as it turns out. :pac:

Eggs For Dinner

monkeysnapper wrote: »

Well wear .... take a picture and stick on here when you get it ...

I have a 10 second video clip of it in the showroom, before it was put away. I'll put it up if someone tells me how

monkeysnapper

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

I have a 10 second video clip of it in the showroom, before it was put away. I'll put it up if someone tells me how

Upload to YouTube and post ......

I looked at the dacia website and don't see the logan advertised anymore.....??? Have they dropped it...?

I nearly bought a login petrol 3 years ago and last min got a hyundai i40 esstate ....

NCC1701

Wish I'd seen this thread a month ago before I spent almost two thousand euro servicing and repairing my 10 year old Qashqai to get it through the NCT.....on its 3rd attempt!!!! The car has 280,000kms on it as I used to travel the length and breadth of the country for work purposes and its creaking at this stage. But I just didn't see the point in borrowing €15,000 to get at best, a five year old car (Tucson, Sportage, Kadjar etc) to replace it, when I could be buying someone else's trouble. Never considered a Dacia as I was in a friend's Duster when it first came here and I thought it was a bit cheap and nasty (I'm NOT a car snob...remember I've a ten year old Qashqai with starship Enterprise mileage on it!). But that was an early edition and since then, friends and colleagues have bought newer Dusters, Sanderos and Stepways. So they can't be that bad and would have offered me a cheaper way to get rid of my Qashqai and into something new with a warranty. Maybe next year...............:(

[Deleted User]

NCC1701 wrote: »

Wish I'd seen this thread a month ago before I spent almost two thousand euro servicing and repairing my 10 year old Qashqai to get it through the NCT.....on its 3rd attempt!!!! The car has 280,000kms on it as I used to travel the length and breadth of the country for work purposes and its creaking at this stage. But I just didn't see the point in borrowing €15,000 to get at best, a five year old car (Tucson, Sportage, Kadjar etc) to replace it, when I could be buying someone else's trouble. Never considered a Dacia as I was in a friend's Duster when it first came here and I thought it was a bit cheap and nasty (I'm NOT a car snob...remember I've a ten year old Qashqai with starship Enterprise mileage on it!). But that was an early edition and since then, friends and colleagues have bought newer Dusters, Sanderos and Stepways. So they can't be that bad and would have offered me a cheaper way to get rid of my Qashqai and into something new with a warranty. Maybe next year...............:(

Only reason I considered it was someone I know mentioned getting a second-hand Duster. Think they paid €17k for it, I thought that's what they were new. :P Looked it up and depreciation was tiny on all models.
I was in a 191 Hyundai i30 recently and the new Sandero is nicer inside and to drive than it was.

No harm ringing up for a quote. If they'd give you 3k for your yoke you could probably get away with no cash deposit and ~250 a month for 3 years. Looking at the GFMV there's a good chance in 3 years it'll be possible to trade it in for another new one with no deposit and similar monthly payments.

NCC1701

Deleted User wrote: »

Only reason I considered it was someone I know mentioned getting a second-hand Duster. Think they paid €17k for it, I thought that's what they were new. :P Looked it up and depreciation was tiny on all models.
I was in a 191 Hyundai i30 recently and the new Sandero is nicer inside and to drive than it was.

No harm ringing up for a quote. If they'd give you 3k for your yoke you could probably get away with no cash deposit and ~250 a month for 3 years. Looking at the GFMV there's a good chance in 3 years it'll be possible to trade it in for another new one with no deposit and similar monthly payments.

I thought Dacia dealers didn't take trade ins?

[Deleted User]

NCC1701 wrote: »

I thought Dacia dealers didn't take trade ins?

I haven't looked into it properly but a mate has an old Sandero and had it in for a service last year and said they made him an offer on it.
The Dacia dealers near me are also Renault/Nissan/Opel dealers so maybe it's different with different dealers? With the dealer I went through I was asked if I had something to trade in as deposit and when I didn't they said a €1k deposit would probably be fine.

colm_mcm

NCC1701 wrote: »

I thought Dacia dealers didn't take trade ins?

They do, but they’ll offer you the trade price of the car as there’s very little discount to artificially inflate the trade in price with.