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Floppybits wrote: » The problem is that the dressing maybe lost but the government will be saying we have a couple of years to turn this around. Now whether they can do that is another thing.
Is this the end wrote: » Achievements? there hasnt been 1 month that there hasn't been controversy in the Govt On polls recently on journal.ie and claire byrne show, barely 15% of people said they believed FF or FG can save the housing crisis. The dressing room is lost
blanch152 wrote: » Agreed. The precedent has been set with Calleary and others. Leave it to the other party to sort. Martin would say that he has grave doubts about Varadkar's suitability for government but that it is a matter for FG as to who they put forward. Coveney would be the leader and Tanaiste within days and the coalition would carry on their merry way. The same would apply to any other scandal. Look at the Chu Senate issue. She ran for the Senate against a Government candidate, but neither of the big parties leaked votes to her. The best prospect for FF and the Greens is for this coalition to last so that they can point to achievements in an attempt to be re-elected. Not getting the main job until December 2022 keeps FG in place.
Floppybits wrote: » That won't happen. Firstly I can't see Varadkar being charged and secondly FF are facing annihilation if there was an election in the near future. FF need to stay in government for as long as possible and hope to get in some big wins in that time. In the unlikely event of Varadkar being charged and if he left government then FF could do a Pointus Pilot and wash their hands of it and say it is now an FG matter and hope to continue on.
skimpydoo wrote: » If Leo gets charged FF might pull the plug on the government.
blanch152 wrote: » Keep dreaming. Martin may well resign as FF leader when his time as Taoiseach comes to an end, but a new FF leader wouldn't be stupid enough to go straight into an election. That would be especially true if it is Jim O'Callaghan as he has zero Ministerial experience and would need some under his belt before an election.
Is this the end wrote: » I reckon when Micheals time is up as the main man, he will walk away and the current Govt will fall apart. May fall apart sooner if the Gardai charge Leo
Humour Me wrote: » The people who are angry are ‘the people who get up early in the morning’, you know, the same people Leo wanted to stand up for. If he tries that line again in the next election, FG will be punished. They are the same people who pay the majority of taxes, pay the high rents (cos they earn too much to get assistance) can’t save a mortgage deposit (due to high rents), and when they do get mortgage approval, can’t compete with the councils, housing bodies and investment firms. They are also the same people the government will be asking to go out and spend money to get the economy back up and running. At what point will these people get a break?
skimpydoo wrote: » Extra money? He is guaranteed his ministerial pensions.
timmyntc wrote: » And miss out on the extra money? Will he fcuk
Loafing Oaf wrote: » This only happens if FF are showing some improvement in the polls. Triggering an election without that is harakiri for FF
timmyntc wrote: » pull the plug on the whole thing,
Is this the end wrote: » I reckon when Micheals time is up as the main man, he will walk away
timmyntc wrote: » True, but the longer FF remain in coalition the more their vote share will dwindle. If they have any hope of remaining a contender and not being wiped out they will need to make a lot of noise about how FG are to blame for housing crisis, "attempt" to propose some fixes which are ultimately shot down by the coalition (i..e its all FG's fault!) and then pull the plug on the whole thing, However MM is at the helm of the party and I don't think he has ever been proactive in his life - The Minister for commissioning reports to tell him what to do
jmreire wrote: » Despite all appearance's to the contrary, FFG, Greens, are very much aware of how a GE would go at this point in time...they will move hell and high water to avoid one. But that does not rule out some unforeseen event making an election unavoidable.
Deleted User wrote: » Love this. People have more to do with their time than take part in meaningless protests just to give the workshy an almost free house. Most people are too busy living their lives and enjoying the fruits of their labours to be bothered with supporting those who wouldn’t lift a finger to help themselves.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » You think mounting public anger will make a general election more likely? Unless the Greens decide to cut and run I don't see how that works.
Is this the end wrote: » I have a feeling we will see Mr Ryan in leaders questions tomorrow and not the leak.
Is this the end wrote: » Election 2021 anyone? 2/1 in the bookies if you want to treble the money
[Deleted User] wrote: » I don’t think it’s the people looking for a free house who are the angry people now. It’s the ones who work and can’t afford to buy one who’s blood is starting to boil. And not even that, the well paid are starting to become priced out of the market.
howwatermelon wrote: » I don’t think it’s the people looking for a free house who are the angry people now. It’s the ones who work and can’t afford to buy one who’s blood is starting to boil. And not even that, the well paid are starting to become priced out of the market.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Love this. People have more to do with their time than take part in meaningless protests just to give the workshy an almost free house. Most people are too busy living their lives and enjoying the fruits of their labours to be bothered with supporting those who wouldn’t lift a finger to help themselves.
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