spacecoyote wrote: » Why, did they dump Cheney?
Itssoeasy wrote: » Also, in trump world I see that federal investigators are trying to get an ex girlfriend of congressman Matt Gaetz to cooperate with them and also this Saturday his friend Joel Greenberg will have to decide whether to strike a plea deal with the Feds.
amandstu wrote: » A girlfriend or a sex worker?
Cody montana wrote: » Rip gop.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » R.I.P? More like good riddance, America would be a much better place without them.
PropJoe10 wrote: » This vote against Cheney is a remarkable note in the history of the GOP. This is a party that claims to stand for law, order and the constitution - yet, they are continuing to back a man that triggered an armed insurrection against the Capitol building in an attempt to overthrow a fair election. If they are voted back into control of either the House, Senate or White House in the next 5 years, then it marks the end of law and order in the US. And if they pick Trump as their candidate again in 2024 and he wins, that's the end of the US as a functioning country. Expect to see states breaking away from the union in that situation.
Rjd2 wrote: » You don't seriously think Liz Cheney been gone matters to anyone outside the internet bubble? The only people who are upset are people who were never going to vote for the GOP anyhow.
Manic Moran wrote: » Not sure I agree with that. As Romney observed, removing Cheney isn't going to garner the GOP a single vote they weren't going to get with her in. All it will do is piss off a bunch of Republican voters and entrench the opposition. The GOP no longer is in a position where it has to just stop losing votes. It needs to start attracting them, and this ousting does not do that.
StringerBell wrote: » There is theory that Cheney will look to be at the forefront of a new Conservative party with the other never Trumpers or those who have changed from R to I over the last number of years and the likes of the Lincoln project. A little pie in the sky if you ask me but not beyond the realms, and they do love a bit of pageantry.
StringerBell wrote: » What I would say, very clearly is this is no good for your country at all, the US does need a strong conservative party to represent those views, not what the GOP has descended into obviously.
StringerBell wrote: » There is theory that Cheney will look to be at the forefront of a new Conservative party with the other never Trumpers or those who have changed from R to I over the last number of years and the likes of the Lincoln project. A little pie in the sky if you ask me but not beyond the realms, and they do love a bit of pageantry. What I would say, very clearly is this is no good for your country at all, the US does need a strong conservative party to represent those views, not what the GOP has descended into obviously.
PropJoe10 wrote: » If they are voted back into control of either the House, Senate or White House in the next 5 years, then it marks the end of law and order in the US. And if they pick Trump as their candidate again in 2024 and he wins, that's the end of the US as a functioning country. Expect to see states breaking away from the union in that situation.
Brian? wrote: » Here’s a wild prediction: Harris-Cheney 2024
Tell me how wrote: » Huh? Competing? Or on a ticket? No chance either way.
Brian? wrote: » On the same ticket.
salmocab wrote: » Cheney is a hardline conservative, apart from saying the election was not stolen she is as conservative as the people who removed her.
Brian? wrote: » She's a traditional conservative. She's not an evangelical or a populist. Which these days put her closer to Harris than the GOP.
marno21 wrote: » Pure off the wall stuff. Cheney is more conservative than most of the people who are overthrowing her. She has a better rating with the ACU than her replacement Elise Stefanik. Cheney and Harris could not be further apart on policy. Their only common ground is in relation to losing candidates of presidential elections mounting insurrections against the US. I really hope the Dems learn the lessons of 2020 and have someone better than Kamala Harris in mind for the 2024 election also.
marno21 wrote: » Pure off the wall stuff. Cheney is more conservative than most of the people who are overthrowing her. She has a better rating with the ACU than her replacement Elise Stefanik. Cheney and Harris could not be further apart on policy. Their only common ground is in relation to losing candidates of presidential elections mounting insurrections against the US.I really hope the Dems learn the lessons of 2020 and have someone better than Kamala Harris in mind for the 2024 election also.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Agreed on Cheney Here's the thing though. If trump is still available , he will be the 2024 GOP Candidate and he will pick whoever the hell he likes as VP. He won't accept an "establishment pick" like Pence a second time around so you literally could have any kind of nutter as his running mate. Although I suspect that Stefanik would fancy her chances snaking that gig - She's clearly willing to say/do pretty much anything to get ahead. On that basis , there really isn't all that much wrong with a Biden/Harris ticket again.
Leroy42 wrote: » What is wrong with Harris? My take form the 2020 election was that you need a competent person, that sticks to a message and comes across as sincere and likeable. I don't know enough about Harris to make a judgement on where she sits on those. What they also need to learn, and they did in 2020, was not to underestimate the other side, which HC very much did in 2016 (and tbh in 2008 with Obama).
Tell me how wrote: » You mean the election they won? What did you see during the 2020 campaign that would have you think they should regret their choice?
Tell me how wrote: » I'd bet on DeSantis at this point but I wouldn't put it past him to try to get Ivanka in there with the insistence that 'The people want Trump'.
Quin_Dub wrote: » I can't see DeSantis taking a VP gig.Why would he hitch his wagon to that likely failure? If Trump runs DeSantis will sit it out and go around again as Florida Gov. He won't run against Trump in the GOP Primary and running as VP and losing gets him nothing and casts him adrift for years. He's pretty young he's only 43 or so , all the time in the world for him to build towards a 2028 run. He'll pick up another 4 years as Gov in 2022 and then declare for 2028 and run then.
Quin_Dub wrote: » I can't see DeSantis taking a VP gig. Why would he hitch his wagon to that likely failure? If Trump runs DeSantis will sit it out and go around again as Florida Gov. He won't run against Trump in the GOP Primary and running as VP and losing gets him nothing and casts him adrift for years. He's pretty young he's only 43 or so , all the time in the world for him to build towards a 2028 run. He'll pick up another 4 years as Gov in 2022 and then declare for 2028 and run then.
Tell me how wrote: » 74M votes and the full backing of the Republican party. (Plus, either he has already hitched his wagon to Trump or they are somewhat kindred spirits given his propensity for bully boy tactics)Again, I'm coming from the position that I don't at all think Trump is dead set to lose should he run in 24 no matter how much I hope that to be the case and if so, DeSantis might view 4-8 years as VP and then run himself at 50 or 54 as a pretty attractive proposition. Niki Halley is still in the mix also. I previously mentioned her as a possible Republican front runner in 24 but given she announced recently that she will not run against Trump, maybe in fact she is positioning herself for the VP position at that time.
