FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

The government’s plan to allow foreign investors, REIT’s and vulture funds to purchase the vast majority of new homes is in keeping with what Tanaiste @LeoVaradkar told those very entities via zoom only a few days ago. It’s policy. #StickWithUs

Via @Trickstersworld on twitter

The video of Leo saying this is on the twitter page

Except he didn't say that.

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

So your disputing what was said. Tell me then what exactly are you disputing or is it a new nothing too see here, move along

P. S ive seen the full zoom meeting, i know what was said

I have seen the 35 second clip that trickstersworld put up on his twitter that you are quoting.

This is the tweet. https://twitter.com/Trickstersworld/status/1389932803702276097

Varadkar says (I'm paraphrasing here) Ireland is still a great place to invest so stick with us. Our economy is going to bounce back as we ease restrictions. We have great political stability, we are at the heart of the EU, Eurozone, single market. We have a great relationship with the UK. We can't control what happens in the rest of the world, as we're only a small country. We are good at riding the wave of international events. We'll make sure Ireland stays a good place to do business.

That is it. We don't even know if he was talking to REITs or another group. He doesn't even discuss policy in the clip or even mention property.

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Is private enterprise precluded from the housing debate?

Nope
Definitely welcome.
Is it biased?
Yep.

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

Cian O Callaghan TD when he asked the Tánaiste about international investment funds and their impact on people who would like to buy a home – he accused him of being ideological.

That was in the Dail in the last week

You are quoting out of context. He said a lot more than saying he is ideological. This is what he actually said

“The solution is not to try and ban types of housing of ban types of housing investment,” he said.

“While it might be the case that there are too many of these investment funds and they are too active in the market in Dublin, it doesn’t mean there is no place for them at all.

He accused opposition parties of being “too ideological” when it comes to housing and insisted investment funds have a place in the Irish market.

“I just don’t think we should so ideological and absolute about this,” he said.

“It should never be about banning types of housing or banning types of housing investment. We need lots more housing, all types, and we need investment, both public and private.”

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

I wonder what you will say when the full zoom meeting (which Ive seen) will be reported in the Irish Examiner in the morning

Maybe I will change my opinion. But the clip in the tweet you are talking about does not mention the things you or the tweeter say it does.

I love it. The LP want to reintroduce, word for word, the Bill Darragh O Brien drafted when he was in opposition in relation to Vulture funds/ REITs.

Will he oppose it now?

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

Oh this will be interesting and be another nail in the FF coffin.

It'll be some craic alright. There'll be more reverses than an Italian tank if they do it.

Cluedo Monopoly

Fann Linn wrote: »

I love it. The LP want to reintroduce, word for word, the Bill Darragh O Brien drafted when he was in opposition in relation to Vulture funds/ REITs.

Will he oppose it now?

Classic move!

jimmycrackcorm

Fann Linn wrote:

I love it. The LP want to reintroduce, word for word, the Bill Darragh O Brien drafted when he was in opposition in relation to Vulture funds/ REITs

Will he oppose it now?

I hope they do. I agree with REITS being able to invest in housing but only if they actually commission it themselves. Because we need more housing and they have funds to do it. Add additional housing stock or stay away.

Cluedo Monopoly

Govt TD getting hammered on housing and investment companies on Radio 1 now. Not sure who she is. Floundering and avoiding questions.

Edit: I think it was Mary Fitzpatrick. A senator actually.

Finty Lemon

Monkey arris wrote: »

The public seem to be behaving. Good on them.

The progress continues.
As does the bleating.

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

No TDs of either the 3 Govt parties would go on prime time or the tonight show last nite. Sending out the senators

FF senator out is step here so:

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

Sorry I meant to state no minister went on either show. They seen the public opinion and hid

Not surprised just pointing it out

Standard practice for those parties. They will either send out a senator or a back bench TD that can barely string a sentence together.

blanch152

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

According to Gavan Reilly on twitter

At FF party meeting claims they are drowning in the shadow of the FG housing policy

At FG meeting tonight they are criticising Minister for Health and sayings this Govts housing policy getting a lot of criticim

The chaos

We are scraping the bottom of the lowest barrel of desperation when backbenchers in a coalition party criticising Minister and policies of the other party are a sign of crisis.

Cluedo Monopoly

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

Over at the FF PP Housing Minister @DarraghOBrienTD says vulture funds buying properties up is a “legacy issue” which happened before Fianna Fáil came into government. He says Department of Finance has a significant role in this and he is engaging with @Paschald on the issue.

Now the Housing Minister is blaming FG.

It's spiralling out of control very fast. Interesting few days ahead.

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

Over at the FF PP Housing Minister @DarraghOBrienTD says vulture funds buying properties up is a “legacy issue” which happened before Fianna Fáil came into government. He says Department of Finance has a significant role in this and he is engaging with @Paschald on the issue.

Now the Housing Minister is blaming FG.

I see Labour are asking the Minister to Reintroduce his own bill from 2019 that blocks Cuckoo funds from buying up houses and that if he doesn't they are going to introduce it word for word and force the government to vote it down. All coming back to haunt FF now. FG really screwed them over in the government formation talks.

https://www.thejournal.ie/labour-cuckoo-funds-bill-5429153-May2021/

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

It's spiralling out of control very fast. Interesting few days ahead.

Certainly looking that way. It was only a matter of time anyway for O'Brien the opposition have been waiting on this for a while.

blanch152 wrote: »

We are scraping the bottom of the lowest barrel of desperation when backbenchers in a coalition party criticising Minister and policies of the other party are a sign of crisis.

It's great Blanch. Sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

FrancieBrady

Floppybits wrote: »

Certainly looking that way. It was only a matter of time anyway for O'Brien the opposition have been waiting on this for a while.

Why is he looking to talk to Fine Gael's parliamentary party meeting and the Green one?

Are these ministers doing solo runs and then looking approval from their coalition partners? Serious odd way to do business.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why is he looking to talk to Fine Gael's parliamentary party meeting and the Green one?

Are these ministers doing solo runs and then looking approval from their coalition partners? Serious odd way to do business.

Both parties have made such a bags of this that they are looking to put the blame on each other. Even Varadkar is now saying that something needs to be done. They are in full panic mode now. Sit back and watch them attack each other.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40282463.html

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why is he looking to talk to Fine Gael's parliamentary party meeting and the Green one?

Are these ministers doing solo runs and then looking approval from their coalition partners? Serious odd way to do business.

You'd imagine he'd address the Dail. However, let's hope LP put the gun to his head and follow up with his bill.

FrancieBrady

Fann Linn wrote: »

You'd imagine he'd address the Dail. However, let's hope LP put the gun to his head and follow up with his bill.

It's a seriously odd thing to do and has to be very unusual. A major policy rolled out and he is having to go to his coalition partners parliamentary meetings to explain himself?

Government of chaos strikes again.

Jinglejangle69

Ineedamiracle wrote: »

According to Gavan Reilly on twitter

At FF party meeting claims they are drowning in the shadow of the FG housing policy

At FG meeting tonight they are criticising Minister for Health and sayings this Govts housing policy getting a lot of criticim

The chaos

The irony from FF.

They started this whole housing mess 20 years ago.