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donvito99

punisher5112 wrote: »

Very true, it would be an absolute nightmare and back to 2 lanes while they would carry out works.

4 lanes it should have been but space just isn't there, stilts are definitely an option but I could never ever see it happening.

Why not 5?

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Most people haven’t a notion the auxiliary lanes are there anyway. Getting those used correctly as part of any education campaign in July would help massively too.

punisher5112

donvito99 wrote: »

Why not 5?

Eh space.

Originally it should have been 4 lanes, this all could have been planned properly.

donvito99

punisher5112 wrote: »

Eh space.

Originally it should have been 4 lanes, this all could have been planned properly.

Why 4 though? What's your logic?

punisher5112

donvito99 wrote: »

Why 4 though? What's your logic?

Because 2 wasn't enough when it was built, it definitely should have been 3 and space for 4.
That ain't ever going to happen, sure it's been built up too in many places.

donvito99

punisher5112 wrote: »

Because 2 wasn't enough when it was built, it definitely should have been 3 and space for 4.
That ain't ever going to happen, sure it's been but up too in many places.

2 wasn't enough, so we built a third. But that's not enough, so let's build a fourth. But hang on a second, why not a fifth...

All the while the traffic gets worse as you make more space for more traffic... What was supposed to be a bypass is now used, as you suggested earlier, by local traffic who are apparently being inconvenienced by schemes designed to encourage people to get around traffic and actually reduce it.

Back on topic, is this across the full length (M1 to M11)?

punisher5112

donvito99 wrote: »

2 wasn't enough, so we built a third. But that's not enough, so let's build a fourth. But hang on a second, why not a fifth...

All the while the traffic gets worse as you make more space for more traffic... What was supposed to be a bypass is now used, as you suggested earlier, by local traffic who are apparently being inconvenienced by schemes designed to encourage people to get around traffic and actually reduce it.

Back on topic, is this across the full length (M1 to M11)?

Yes end to end pretty much.

I was wondering when I seen these new solar and wind turbine units fitted, these obviously have something to do with it and the new measure units fitted in the road surfaces which they then resurfaced after.

BonnieSituation

punisher5112 wrote: »

It's to actually slow traffic down so in theory it will ease the amount of traffic at the exits at any given time, longer takes to get there the plan is less sitting waiting for light changes....

I can only see more use the M50 from now on with the absolute shambles of any roads in Dublin with all these new kerbs, poles, one way systems, cycle lanes etc.....

It's really going to be a pain trying to commute when it goes back to normal.

Hopefully it's enough of a pain that people will get the fupp out of their car.

BonnieSituation

arccosh wrote: »

I wonder if the hard shoulder is on the chopping block next, like they are on UK roads

That would be insane.
Thankfully it isn't on the chopping block.

punisher5112

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Hopefully it's enough of a pain that people will get the fupp out of their car.

And do what.
Our transportation system is a joke.

Walking and cycling isn't for everyone.

Sure these scooters are also a danger, users can't indicate to show where they intend to turn.

Road space gone, speed limits set to 30 etc etc....

BonnieSituation

punisher5112 wrote: »

And do what.
Our transportation system is a joke.

Walking and cycling isn't for everyone.

Sure these scooters are also a danger, users can't indicate to show where they intend to turn.

Road space gone, speed limits set to 30 etc etc....

It sure is.

And that reduced road space should not be used by cars.

marno21

I watched back the committee meeting and Peter Walsh of TII said that all lane running is not under consideration. Hard shoulder remaining as

L1011

marno21 wrote: »

I watched back the committee meeting and Peter Walsh of TII said that all lane running is not under consideration. Hard shoulder remaining as

The busiest sections don't have continuous hard shoulders and they're on the inside of the inter-junction lanes so it'd basically be impossible anyway. As well as lethally dangerous.

punisher5112

I actually can't understand how people don't follow other countries and get mopeds or motorbikes for city commuting.

Miss them when I was in Dublin, flew through traffic

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punisher5112 wrote: »

I actually can't understand how people don't follow other countries and get mopeds or motorbikes for city commuting.

Miss them when I was in Dublin, flew through traffic

It's more the other way round, people mostly started on two wheels then progressed to four.
few go back to mopeds after cars

BronsonTB

punisher5112 wrote: »

I actually can't understand how people don't follow other countries and get mopeds or motorbikes for city commuting.

Miss them when I was in Dublin, flew through traffic

Do you know how hard & expensive it is to have a moped or motorbike in Ireland?

Lessons/licencing rules/test/Insurance/weather etc
System is against 2 wheel ownership & actively discourages it.

punisher5112

BronsonTB wrote: »

Do you know how hard & expensive it is to have a moped or motorbike in Ireland?

Lessons/licencing rules/test/Insurance/weather etc
System is against 2 wheel ownership & actively discourages it.

Of course I do. Have a full licence myself.

I couldn't sit in 2 hour traffic unless I'm in work which doesn't bother me.

BronsonTB

punisher5112 wrote: »

Of course I do. Have a full licence myself.

I couldn't sit in 2 hour traffic unless I'm in work which doesn't bother me.

Fair enough, I was thinking of the people that don't have a licence & are starting from scratch getting on the road.....alot easier get into a car than on a bike here. (Think we only have 3 insurance companies now)

Alkers

BronsonTB wrote: »

Fair enough, I was thinking of the people that don't have a licence & are starting from scratch getting on the road.....alot easier get into a car than on a bike here. (Think we only have 3 insurance companies now)

It's not really, new car drivers need 12hours lessons Vs 16 I think for IBT on the bike. It only really seems a lot of effort if you already have a car license.

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Back in the day, the moped licence was also given when you passed the car driving test, I have one but I believe they dropped it many years ago.

punisher5112

M50 is in a jock going onto M11 at Bray.... Poxy bank holiday weekend Garda checkpoint is back in action....

Jeremy Sproket

Wonderful news. This will weed out those who can't obey simple rules.

Most HGV drivers are serial breakers of speed limits.

BelfastVanMan

Jeremy Sproket wrote: »

Wonderful news. This will weed out those who can't obey simple rules.

Most HGV drivers are serial breakers of speed limits.

That's a bit of an unfair generalisation; a lot of them are, then again, so are a lot of car drivers.

prunudo

Jeremy Sproket wrote: »

Wonderful news. This will weed out those who can't obey simple rules.

Most HGV drivers are serial breakers of speed limits.

And most cyclists break red lights, bmw drivers don't use indicators, white van drivers tailgate etc etc.
Trucks can do 90kph on motorways, unusual to see them doing more than that.

NickNickleby

prunudo wrote: »

And most cyclists break red lights, bmw drivers don't use indicators, white van drivers tailgate etc etc.
Trucks can do 90kph on motorways, unusual to see them doing more than that.

While there's bound to be a couple of cowboys, I think the best drivers on the road are behind the wheel of a truck or bus/coach.

Jeremy Sproket

prunudo wrote: »

And most cyclists break red lights, bmw drivers don't use indicators, white van drivers tailgate etc etc.
Trucks can do 90kph on motorways, unusual to see them doing more than that.

There's nothing to stop them driving at 90 km/h in a 80 or 60 zone and they frequently do.

Jeremy Sproket

NickNickleby wrote: »

While there's bound to be a couple of cowboys, I think the best drivers on the road are behind the wheel of a truck or bus/coach.

So why do the majority break the speed limit? I am frequently overtaken by HGVs even when I drive precisely at the limit, as to exceed the limit could have fatal consequences.

Sam Russell

Mod: Can we keep to he M50 please. We are all above average drivers.

[Deleted User]

M5 :P

NickNickleby

I have often thought that the overhead gantries are underused.
For instance: " Slow Down Now. Congestion Ahead. Don't add to it!"
I think people need to be convinced about the need for certain controls before they'll comply. Complying doesn't imply "sheep" or whatever the mot du jour is on the internet, it means contributing to the efficiency of the motorway - not to mention actually benefitting from it.

I know... its a pipe dream. Hence the need for the speed cameras.