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parkrun, lap two

robinph

Continuation of the previous parkrun thread as seen here:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056845042

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average_runner

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

UK are way ahead of us on vaccinations so the dates should be achievable for them

Leaving 12 weeks between doses is the unknown.

Our numbers from nursing homes is very positive right now. Big drop in covid cases

Incredible amount of positivity on FWT podcast this week. They have a plan and it sounds reasonable given where England are with regards to vaccinations. A lot of emotion shown by Tom. I initially thought there was an audio issue but he was welling up.

robinph

py wrote: »

Incredible amount of positivity on FWT podcast this week. They have a plan and it sounds reasonable given where England are with regards to vaccinations. A lot of emotion shown by Tom. I initially thought there was an audio issue but he was welling up.

I had already heard that he'd got emotional during it, but still caught me out on listening to it. Knew that was the question that would set him off and I still thought there was a problem with my podcast player app.

opus

Thought they said originally that only a full parkrun territory would return so it would all of GB rather than just England? Not that I've anything against parkrun resuming once it's safe to do so of course. Imagine they will be plenty of cross border tourism from Wales & Scotland if they their parkruns are still on hiatus.

Will be interesting here if NI resumes while ROI is still closed down.

robinph

opus wrote: »

Thought they said originally that only a full parkrun territory would return so it would all of GB rather than just England? Not that I've anything against parkrun resuming once it's safe to do so of course. Imagine they will be plenty of cross border tourism from Wales & Scotland if they their parkruns are still on hiatus.

Will be interesting here if NI resumes while ROI is still closed down.

They did originally say that, and that juniors would return at the same time as well or possibly after 5km had returned. That thinking changed back around the time New Zealand first restarted, if not before then.

I don't think there is much problem with England returning before Wales and Scotland, there might be if Wales returned before England though. The only cross border mass traffic on relatively small events the other side I think would be from Bristol to two small events that are visible from there but on the Welsh side, other way around and Bristol has loads of events compared to the potential touring parkrunner numbers. Possibly similar issues up Cheshire direction too, but the distances between population and parkrun event on the Scottish border are too big to make it much of a problem. Not many people will do a 3hr + drive to run a parkrun, some will but not many.

I would anticipate that Wales and Scotland will end up with very similar dates for the relaxation of restrictions, and parkrun isn't even returning at the first point when they could. If Scotland relaxed restrictions a month after England then events could restart in both places at the same time.

NI and Ireland is a different matter and might be they do need to be synchronised.

Sunny Dayz

robinph wrote: »

NI and Ireland is a different matter and might be they do need to be synchronised.

NI parkrun went ahead for one additional week after Ireland parkrun had been cancelled. I wonder did many travel up for it that time?

average_runner

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

NI parkrun went ahead for one additional week after Ireland parkrun had been cancelled. I wonder did many travel up for it that time?

The north would be very silly to let us in but nothing would surprise us

Pawwed Rig

average_runner wrote: »

The north would be very silly to let us in but nothing would surprise us

I would assume that there are events in NI that would be the local event for alot of Irish people and vice versa so I wouldn't necessarily be critical of everyone who goes

average_runner

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I would assume that there are events in NI that would be the local event for alot of Irish people and vice versa so I wouldn't necessarily be critical of everyone who goes

Wasnt critical of anyone who goes, just said the north would be silly

Sunny Dayz

I listened to the most recent Free Weekly Timed podcast at the weekend on my long run. You couldn’t help but get a lump in your throat as parkrun COO Tom Williams became emotional.
I do hope they get parkrun back up and running in the UK, June seems like a way away yet.

robinph

Update on the milestone tshirts:

https://blog.parkrun.com/uk/2021/03/17/changes-to-milestone-t-shirts/

Will be a £15 charge per tshirt from 1st September, but the same price globally and includes delivery. Also they are adding some extra milestones with volunteer 50,100, 250, 500 and run 25.

You'll also be able to buy additional replacement tops for if the top gets damaged, or you need a different size.

DeepBlue

Good to see more volunteer t-shirts. It always seemed that they were forgotten about after 25. Nice to see that you will be able to buy replacement milestone tshirts too. Handy when you change size due to running.

robinph wrote: »

Update on the milestone tshirts:

https://blog.parkrun.com/uk/2021/03/17/changes-to-milestone-t-shirts/

Will be a £15 charge per tshirt from 1st September, but the same price globally and includes delivery. Also they are adding some extra milestones with volunteer 50,100, 250, 500 and run 25.

You'll also be able to buy additional replacement tops for if the top gets damaged, or you need a different size.

Think it's a good business move. Hopefully makes it more sustainable and feeds the growth of the organisation.

Pawwed Rig

DeepBlue wrote: »

Good to see more volunteer t-shirts. It always seemed that they were forgotten about after 25. Nice to see that you will be able to buy replacement milestone tshirts too. Handy when you change size due to running.

Unfortunately not always in the right direction. My 100 shirt is fairly tight these days

robinph

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Unfortunately not always in the right direction. My 100 shirt is fairly tight these days

I think they just sent you a kids size by mistake... And then it shrank in the wash.

Pawwed Rig

I wish that was true :pac:

robinph

Yay, finally have a start date for our local junior parkrun on 9th May.

Was some confusion with the restart as the event team thought everything was in place, the landowners had given permission, they had got their people to email back to parkrun HQ that it was good to return and the coffee shop had stocked up with extra cakes a couple of weeks ago in anticipation of lots of excited juniors and happy parents turning up... Then massed confusion from the landowners when nobody showed.

Seems their email outbox hadn't synced up right and the email never actually got sent back to parkrun HQ. Guess the constant messaging from parkrun HQ to UK event teams to check their comms is right and little mistakes can mess things up.

Seems there is also now a start date for at least one junior event in Wales to begin in a couple of weeks too so things are moving along outside of just England. I'm also hearing positive noise regarding another parkrun territory being close to getting permission, but nothing officially confirmed yet.

jimmii

Up in Scotland we have some non-parkrun races starting up again next week which is good to see. We're not meant to be getting >200 runner events until June but wouldn't be surprised if that was something that was pushed forward. We moved this year and have a parkrun across the road now so very handy especially with the late start we get can almost get a sleep in!

robinph

Now confirmed for the first parkrun event in Wales to restart as well on the 9th. It was the event I suspected, which is also going to be an inaugural as their initial start date I think was meant for the first or second week of lockdown one. The are in a lucky position geographically, stuck between two motorways on some old industrial scrub land, but it's actually a really pleasant course and you'd only barely know where you were. They are also not anywhere that people have heard of and kind of tricky to find so should be safe from massive influx of people.

Despite that though I dare not say their name, or even mention that I know of an inaugural on the UK based social media, for fear of people noticing.

It's a lovely group hosting the event and their previous 5km course which had to move 100m and be renamed, was the venue for my buggy PB.

If you're curious, it's called Rogiet, that is the correct spelling, it's not French and it's not said how you think.

robinph

22nd May has now been confirmed for USA parkruns to be permitted to return, depending on local state requirements. Very unlikely to be all of them, but really doesn't matter for any US parkruns if they return on different dates as nobody is touring like in the UK.

robinph

...and now a bunch of events across England have been confirmed as having permission to restart from 5th June, which includes a few of the ones near me. Yay!

No guarantee that 5th June will be the date yet as would need a higher percentage to get the go ahead across England. Just 2 out of the 5'ish (depending on where you draw the line for how far people might travel) in my city have the green light so far and they are the 2 smallest events so might be an issue with numbers. But they are also the two events that people are least likey to travel to because mud/ hills/ mud & hills. But a great response after just 24 hours since permission was even asked for.

Great sign that people are confident with the parkrun framework document and the vaccination/ case rates that they will give permissions so quickly.

robinph

Have my junior kitted out and ready to go, they remembered some tiny person running gear we'd dressed them in a year and a half ago which is now a bit snug but insisted on putting it on.

Have managed to talk a few school friends into parkrun despite it not existing for most of their time at school whilst we've known the parents so hopefully a few of them turn up.

I'm getting a bit bit excited you may notice, even though I don't get to run.

Will be interesting to see how many turn up despite the reduced age group.

robinph

Totally awesome to see the kids back this morning. Was a last minute panic for the marshals as the kit had all disappeared since last week, which was then found in another store room, which was then found to be locked and nobody knew who had the key... But they gained entry somehow and things were back on.

Was a bit of nervousness beforehand about how many people would turn up, how many dog walkers there would be as they would no longer be used to the juniors being there each week. Few more marshals than normal, probably a relatively normal number of participants, but it looked less as they were all smaller ones than previous with the new temporary age range.

We had a couple of new parkrunners attending as our kids school friends joined and all went running off into the distance delighted with themselves* and some very proud parents and kids at the end, and very happy marshals just glad to be out marshaling again.

* Less said about my own junior parkrunners participation the better, but they did one lap of the two then screamed at me for 40 minutes while sat in a muddy puddle about not having got a finish token and how the world wasn't fair. A Calipo eventually enabled us to leave after further negotiations.

opus

Interesting to see all the events on a map, there are a lot of them for sure in England.

Current landowner permissions

Red = No
Grey = No answer
Orange = Yes

robinph

Was having a glance at that map a few minutes ago myself. Can certainly see some clusters of areas with loads of parkruns and no permissions yet... But I know of at least two in my small neck of the woods which have got permission since that map was last updated, one of which hasn't yet been tweeted about with a humorous gif by HQ either. So there must be quite a number more waiting in the wings for official announcements... Hopefully.

robinph

The red on that map isn't "no" actually, it's events which have been cancelled and goes back several years. Don't think a list of refused permission has been made regarding the current restart plans.

opus

Oops didn't spot that nuance.

JimmyAlfonso

Good to see events starting back up in other regions. Any thoughts on when we will return in the Republic? GAA back on 7th June

FinnC

JimmyAlfonso wrote: »

Good to see events starting back up in other regions. Any thoughts on when we will return in the Republic? GAA back on 7th June

GAA is already back .

JimmyAlfonso

Club matches back? I'm not an intercounty parkrunner either!

Club training is still restricted to pods at present.