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Belfast Disturbances

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So approaching a disjointed marching season in North of Ireland for a second year running, Sandyrow and The waterside in Derry have now erupted with violent clashes.

Sandyrow seen officers injured and it is being blamed on the Irish sea border, within the community it seems the Royal bar leadership were arching up the tensions the past few weeks with banners at the front of the bar.

Is the LCC committed to non violent means or is it more Smoke and mirrors from the UDA and UVF. Donegal pass under the UVF and Sandyrow both came to a standstill last night.

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ash2020

in the days where we have super cctv cameras, is it not possible to zoom in and record these groups at close range and the next day go and arrest them? if some of them turn out to be 12 and 13 year olds then arrest there parents for allowing there scum to take part in this flame throwing riots

a 10 year stretch sentence might be enough to get there attention? i personally dont care about religion or what groups they call themselvs, ira, nationalists, sinn fein , prodastands

looking at the news - its showing the crowds involved have to respect for the law, or other persons well been

lock them all up, build bigger prisons , throw away the key if needs be, there is innocent people up there scared out of there mind caught up in all this, imagine trying to go to work and put food on your table and bring up a young family and give them the best possibilities in life, and then have to withness this carry on down the road,

Tyrone212

nocoverart wrote: »

Life is way too short for clinging onto history. We probably only get one shot at this so move on and get along. The Universe and this Planet for that matter doesn't care about a regions petty squabbles.

You're making zero sense. You said you'd love to saw off the north and let it sink in to the abyss. I pointed out to you that you may be of a different opinion if plantations had happened where you live instead , implying you might not be so keen to sink in to the abyss then. And you'd be ruled from London while the rest of the country is free of British rule, maybe that wouldn't bother you and thats fair enough but I'm as Irish as you. You went from sawing the country in half to some hippy spiel inside 2 comments. Multiple personality disorder?

nocoverart

Tyrone212 wrote: »

If the plantations happened in your county instead of the North you might be of a different opinion. So patriotic.

Life is way too short for clinging onto history. We probably only get one shot at this so move on and get along. The Universe and this Planet for that matter doesn't care about a regions petty squabbles.

FileNotFound

Had a scan of the daily mail uk comments on related articles.

Gas stuff, all to be blamed on the EU and republicans wanting to destabilise the UK and cause a untied Ireland.

Gotta love it really.

nocoverart

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Your post is offensive and highly ignorant.

More in jest than anything. Sorry if I offended you though... seems to be a theme in certain parts.

Batattackrat

nocoverart wrote: »

I’ll get hate, but I’d love to saw that part of the island off and let it sink into the abyss. Protestant, Catholic it doesn’t matter. All as bad as each other, even the accent is offensive.

A lot of Jobs in Belfast and people probably don't want to move away from friends and families where they grew up.

Not just there to be a nationalist or Loyalist for the sake of it.

nocoverart

FileNotFound wrote: »

If you can make that happen I think you'd actually get a lot of love.

To steal a line I read earlier today "I'd give you a Frenchy even if you had covid"...

I remember a gif Americans had of sawing off Florida (all in good humor of course) I’d love someone more savvy than me do the same with NI. In all seriousness though, it’s sad what goes on up there. Same island but feels like a different world at times.

Nqp15hhu

nocoverart wrote: »

I’ll get hate, but I’d love to saw that part of the island off and let it sink into the abyss. Protestant, Catholic it doesn’t matter. All as bad as each other, even the accent is offensive.

Your post is offensive and highly ignorant.

rossie1977

randy hickey wrote: »

Never forget, the DUP have history in using/manipulating loyalist terrorist organisations to further their own agenda. They even tried to envelope some of them on more than one occasion. In 1981 they set up a paramilitary organisation called the Third Force, where Paisley marched thousands of men up various hillsides all over the North, waving their firearms certificates in the air.

In 1985, in an attempt to threaten/bully The Anglo Irish Agreement out of existence, they set up the Ulster Resistance Movement.I could go on - Peter Robinson's "invasion" of Clontibret etc, but the point stands - they will court violent loyalists and then dump them when it suits. Unfortunately, the loyalists fall for the DUP's bull**** every time.

74 union strikes too

FileNotFound

nocoverart wrote: »

I’ll get hate, but I’d love to saw that part of the island off and let it sink into the abyss. Protestant, Catholic it doesn’t matter. All as bad as each other, even the accent is offensive.

If you can make that happen I think you'd actually get a lot of love.

To steal a line I read earlier today "I'd give you a Frenchy even if you had covid"...

nocoverart

I’ll get hate, but I’d love to saw that part of the island off and let it sink into the abyss. Protestant, Catholic it doesn’t matter. All as bad as each other, even the accent is offensive.

jimmycrackcorm

6 wrote: »

Off topic slightly, but with the baptism barrier now gone the Catholic stranglehold on religion in Ireland will fall off a cliff. Census's in the not so distant future will reflect this. A lot of kids growing up now as non religious.

You might be underestimating the power of a first communion day out. On the last first communion day out that I attended, there were as many kids from the local educate together as one of the other catholic primary schools.

randy hickey

Never forget, the DUP have history in using/manipulating loyalist terrorist organisations to further their own agenda. They even tried to envelope some of them on more than one occasion. In 1981 they set up a paramilitary organisation called the Third Force, where Paisley marched thousands of men up various hillsides all over the North, waving their firearms certificates in the air.

In 1985, in an attempt to threaten/bully The Anglo Irish Agreement out of existence, they set up the Ulster Resistance Movement.I could go on - Peter Robinson's "invasion" of Clontibret etc, but the point stands - they will court violent loyalists and then dump them when it suits. Unfortunately, the loyalists fall for the DUP's bull**** every time.

Five Eighth

DUP’s Leadership of Unionism/Loyalism:
Primary Objective:
Support Brexit and create a clear delineation between NI and Ireland.
Primary Strategy:
Reject Mrs. May’s ‘Soft Brexit’ and support the ERG. This means there is no remaining in the Single Market and/or Customs Union.
Ignore the wishes of majority of NI citizens and business community in pursuit of a ‘Clean Brexit’.
Believe Boris de pfeffel’s promises.
Reality:
Not requiring DUP votes the Tories reach a deal with the EU which creates a regulatory border in the Irish sea.
DUP Response:
Outdo the TUV and shore up core support by blaming the Irish government and the EU.

FrancieBrady

downcow wrote: »

The did not accept any wrongdoing

When you apologise for something it is pretty much implied that you accept you did something wrong.

RandomViewer

batman75 wrote: »

Boris Johnson has a lot to answer for. A lot of the rioting from Loyalists is I think panic. They are realising maybe for the first time ever that England doesn't give a hoot about them. Johnson had to know that leaving the EU was going to put NI in a tricky position. All the more so because NI voted to remain. Leaving the EU meant a trade border of some description. I don't think the Unionist politicians had the wherewithal to understand what hitching their wagon to the brexit horse would entail.
I'm genuinely worried as to where this all goes. It's small scale at the minute compared to the dark days of the 80s and 90s which I remember growing up. I don't have much confidence in the political figures on either side to guide NI through these tricky waters. I see O'Neill as a puppet for Adams and Foster is too entrenched in Unionism to be a true leader of the people in NI.

Sea border is slowing the flow of Loyalist drugs, this is criminality dressed up as political unrest, heroin keeps the Free Presbyterian collection plates full

FileNotFound

Good old shinners were wrong to be at that funeral to start with alright. Even Mary McDonald Trump was there.

Still no excuse for Arlene to be riling up her fan base. Even her last tweet while calling for calm had a go at sinn fein law breakers.

Arlene backed brexit and created the mess where loyalists can only feel on the back foot. You reap what you sow.

Not sure where it goes from here, nationalists in the ascendancy.

Find it funny Mary is in hiding, maybe she should join leaky Leo and leave politics, out with the law breakers.

batman75

Boris Johnson has a lot to answer for. A lot of the rioting from Loyalists is I think panic. They are realising maybe for the first time ever that England doesn't give a hoot about them. Johnson had to know that leaving the EU was going to put NI in a tricky position. All the more so because NI voted to remain. Leaving the EU meant a trade border of some description. I don't think the Unionist politicians had the wherewithal to understand what hitching their wagon to the brexit horse would entail.
I'm genuinely worried as to where this all goes. It's small scale at the minute compared to the dark days of the 80s and 90s which I remember growing up. I don't have much confidence in the political figures on either side to guide NI through these tricky waters. I see O'Neill as a puppet for Adams and Foster is too entrenched in Unionism to be a true leader of the people in NI.

downcow

maebee wrote: »

I'm not a Sinn Féin supporter but they did apologise:-

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/bobby-storey-funeral-sinn-feins-20304528

The did not accept any wrongdoing

RandomViewer

maebee wrote: »

I'm not a Sinn Féin supporter but they did apologise:-

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/bobby-storey-funeral-sinn-feins-20304528

£2k in fines is the max the PSNI could have gotten from the funeral before it came out that they liased with SF in the days running up to the funeral so the whole thing was sanctioned, so any moaning afterwards is just moaning for the sake of it.

Del.Monte

6 wrote: »

Off topic slightly, but with the baptism barrier now gone the Catholic stranglehold on religion in Ireland will fall off a cliff. Census's in the not so distant future will reflect this. A lot of kids growing up now as non religious.

Monty Python's song from "The Meaning of Life" contains these lyrics which have a certain ring of truth to them i.e. no matter whether you're a church goer or not you belong to your tribe and there's no escape.

I'm a Roman Catholic
And have been since before I was born

And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm

You don't have to be a six-footer
You don't have to have a great brain
You don't have to have any clothes on
You're a Catholic the moment Dad came

[Deleted User]

onrail wrote: »

Indeed. I filled in my census form as Catholic for me, my wife and son despite being agnostic at best. Also said I was an Irish speaker despite not speaking a word past leaving cert. Mates did the same

Off topic slightly, but with the baptism barrier now gone the Catholic stranglehold on religion in Ireland will fall off a cliff. Census's in the not so distant future will reflect this. A lot of kids growing up now as non religious.

Frank Bullitt

Incredible front page...

maebee

downcow wrote: »

No doubt.
Republicans never admit wrongdoing eg story funeral and Francie above

I'm not a Sinn Féin supporter but they did apologise:-

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/bobby-storey-funeral-sinn-feins-20304528

onrail

Del.Monte wrote: »

Why, especially the language thing?

Numbers for the team! I'm not even a native, but you end up a bit entrenched even in 'middle of the road' areas

Atlantic Dawn

Tesla need to build a factory up there.

Del.Monte

onrail wrote: »

Indeed. I filled in my census form as Catholic for me, my wife and son despite being agnostic at best. Also said I was an Irish speaker despite not speaking a word past leaving cert. Mates did the same

Why, especially the language thing?

10000maniacs

Del.Monte wrote: »

While religion generally defines what tribe you belong to in Northern Ireland it is not the full picture and assuming all RCs are Republicans and all Protestants are Unionists would be an over simplification. Simply outbreeding the Protestant population does not equal a United Ireland. Anyway, despite what some on here would try to push, a United Ireland with a significant pro-Union rump would not exactly be a recipe for harmony into the future.

Knock off 10 years to the right, extend 10 years to the left using the same trend, and unionism is in bags of trouble if not now, in the next 10 years.

onrail

10000maniacs wrote: »

Up there, religion is more of a badge than a spiritual thing to many.

Indeed. I filled in my census form as Catholic for me, my wife and son despite being agnostic at best. Also said I was an Irish speaker despite not speaking a word past leaving cert. Mates did the same

Del.Monte

10000maniacs wrote: »

I wonder why Unionists are so agitated? Could it be something to do with this?
This graph is based on the 2011 NI census. If you follow the trend 10 years on to the 2021 census which happened last week (has not been published yet), a united Ireland must be within grasp at this stage.

While religion generally defines what tribe you belong to in Northern Ireland it is not the full picture and assuming all RCs are Republicans and all Protestants are Unionists would be an over simplification. Simply outbreeding the Protestant population does not equal a United Ireland. Anyway, despite what some on here would try to push, a United Ireland with a significant pro-Union rump would not exactly be a recipe for harmony into the future.