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Belfast Disturbances

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So approaching a disjointed marching season in North of Ireland for a second year running, Sandyrow and The waterside in Derry have now erupted with violent clashes.

Sandyrow seen officers injured and it is being blamed on the Irish sea border, within the community it seems the Royal bar leadership were arching up the tensions the past few weeks with banners at the front of the bar.

Is the LCC committed to non violent means or is it more Smoke and mirrors from the UDA and UVF. Donegal pass under the UVF and Sandyrow both came to a standstill last night.

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McMurphy

AuntySnow wrote: »

He liked a photo of himself in which he was mentioned and a colleague attending a parade of another culture on this island which he made no secret of attending
Its not a photo of our nations flag being burned,I doubt you'll find any oireachtas member liking a photo of that
I do not see what the fuss is there

He's quite entitled to attend "parades of other cultures" on this island, but when that culture is one of hate, division, sectarianism and triumphalism, he shouldn't be surprised when folk are sceptical that he "he accidentally" liked a tweet that came from the leader of a hateful, divisive, sectarian and triumphalist party, and was a hateful, and a divisive tweet.

Seems extremely coincidental that he accidentally scrolled past it and liked it, and didn't condemn it at that stage, the condemnation and the removal of his like came after the condemnation and criticism from people, many of whom decide to vote for him or his party in this jurisdiction.

[Deleted User]

He liked a photo of himself in which he was mentioned and a colleague attending a parade of another culture on this island which he made no secret of attending
Its not a photo of our nations flag being burned,I doubt you'll find any oireachtas member liking a photo of that
I do not see what the fuss is there

McMurphy

Hurrache wrote: »

FFS Brady, it was accidentally clicked when scrolling through the feed. I've liked some ****e myself when doing so, even in this site. Untangle the knickers.

Yis'll all have to be verging on living in fantasy if you think that he liked it intentionally to begin with, and have a screw lose to claim it was unliked because of feedback.

I'd say he "accidentally" found himself at those orange parades, where the lads marching past him had Cromwell banners etc. I don't care if Neale is Protestant, Catholic, Hindu or Jew btw, but the optics of what he "accidentally liked" all things considered..... aren't great.

Between "accidentally liking stuff" and bizarre photoshops, maybe twitter's not the best place for Neale.

Zebra3

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Hopefully not. The Troubles were well before my time but it's fair to say the vast, vast majority of people inhabiting this country have no interest in it repeating.

Any idea as to how this may escalate?

By getting worse?

J Mysterio

https://twitter.com/EoinCa/status/1379891440344563719?s=20

SharpshooterTom

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1379704292588859392

batman75

Foster was well out of order using a volatile situation to have a pop at SF. This is precisely why she is not fit to be head of the assembly. She is a Protestant leader for her Protestant brethren. It is people from her side of the fence causing the riots. I hate Foster with a passion. The only union she should be worried about is within the 6 counties between Catholics and Protestants.

Larbre34

Neale is a proud Protestant and always had an affinity with Ireland and the First World War stuff because of family history and stuff.

But frankly thats all fluff that none of us have time to indulge in anymore. As far as I'm concerned, if you're an elected representative in this Republic, then your one and only concern is the wellbeing and prosperity of this Republic, including the aspiration to unify the whole island under this Republic.

Neale has represented the Country well in his forthright defence of our stance and approach to Brexit, but as regards this matter at hand, he'd want to get his head on straight.

Godot.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Frost is over in Brussels copperfastening the Protocol. If it goes the UK are back to the deadlock over the whole deal.
Not gonna happen with a few petrol bombs.

The British have turned more and more gradually towards flag waving and nationalism ever since the Global Finance Crisis started to bite and the never ending austerity since.

He could thrash the economy with a No Deal Brexit and his support would lap it up for 'sticking it to Brussels' and 'defending British sovereignty'.

FrancieBrady

Northernlily wrote: »

You say it as if it's a matter of fact. Big error to be fair from an astute politician.

The optics of it are terrible.

They'll be telling us next inviting the DUP to their yearly conference was a case of mistaken identity next.
You scroll past a post of Arlene's read it and accidentally like it ...yeh right.

[Deleted User]

Hurrache wrote: »

FFS Brady, it was accidentally clicked when scrolling through the feed. I've liked some ****e myself when doing so, even in this site. Untangle the knickers.

Yis'll all have to be verging on living in fantasy if you think that he liked it intentionally to begin with, and have a screw lose to claim it was unliked because of feedback.

You say it as if it's a matter of fact. Big error to be fair from an astute politician.

The optics of it are terrible.

piplip87

I'd wonder how much of this is down to the UDA bee out if pocket due to increased custom checks on shipments from Britain. It must be costing them a fortune.

Hurrache

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Don't buy the finger slip story, sorry.

Don't think anyone takes too much notice of what you buy or don't buy. All that matters to you is how it reflects on SF and you adopt a stance from there.

FrancieBrady

Godot. wrote: »

Where does Sinn Fein's commitment to the peace process stand if Boris decides to placate the loyalists and stick up a land border? Out of interest. Breaks a number of international laws but it's a possibility we can't rule out.

My initial thoughts are I'm grateful they don't have any control over the levers of power down here.

Frost is over in Brussels copperfastening the Protocol. If it goes the UK are back to the deadlock over the whole deal.
Not gonna happen with a few petrol bombs.

Hurrache

hotmail.com wrote: »

Richmond doesn't know what side he's on. He's against the DUP, then against Sinn Fein.. blah blah.

They aren't mutually exclusive you know.

He's been the face of Irish government criticism of Brexit and the Tories on British TV for quite a while now, and pretty good at it.

ACitizenErased

he hath spoken
https://twitter.com/DarrenGBNews/status/1379936021870215178?s=20

Jinglejangle69

Some people are obviously too young to remember the nationalists rioting that lasted for weeks 20 or so years ago.

Swings and roundabouts.

Nothing new here.

Godot.

Where does Sinn Fein's commitment to the peace process stand if Boris decides to placate the loyalists and stick up a land border? Out of interest. Breaks a number of international laws but it's a possibility we can't rule out.

My initial thoughts are I'm grateful they don't have any control over the levers of power down here.

DerekC16

Loyalists running amok up North, meanwhile dissident Republicans are busy fighting for trans rights and trying to relive the Spanish civil war, in which their side lost.

[Deleted User]

I’d be worried, there is much more acceptance of violence in Belfast than almost anywhere else on earth, it doesn’t take much for it to disintegrate. There’s a tradition of it, many people in their 50s won’t worry about their teenagers being involved to the extent parents in the South or Britain would. I’ve an involvement in a business around the corner from where there was some conflict, but thankfully it’s okay right now.

FrancieBrady

Hurrache wrote: »

FFS Brady, it was accidentally clicked when scrolling through the feed. I've liked some ****e myself when doing so, even in this site. Untangle the knickers.

Yis'll all have to be verging on living in fantasy if you think that he liked it intentionally to begin with, and have a screw lose to claim it was unliked because of feedback.

Don't buy the finger slip story, sorry.

Pussyhands

NI is a mess and I don't know why anyone in the republic would want this mess on our plate.

NI is never going to be right, let both sides piss off and have their own country.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

I'd worry that if widespread disorder broke out up there, there'd be a lot more people down here radicalised than the 80's. Many people here generally had a more distant experience of Northern Ireland in the days without internet. Something you'd hear about on RTE News once a day, might be a lead story sometimes if a major event happened, but other times briefly touched on.

Now people would get minute by minute, blow by blow accounts on social media, people feeling more immersed in the experience - look at the role social media played in the Arab Spring.

bilston

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Hopefully not. The Troubles were well before my time but it's fair to say the vast, vast majority of people inhabiting this country have no interest in it repeating.

Any idea as to how this may escalate?

I doubt it will go beyond street violence. I just hope no one loses their life in the meantime.

Despite what the pictures suggest the vast vast vast majority of people in NI do not support this carry on.

As someone tweeted the other night after protests in Larne...50 people took part in the protest, while the other 17,950 people who live in Larne stayed in their homes. A couple of hundred people rioting in Belfast might look like a lot of people, just remember two or three hundred thousand people live in the city.

hotmail.com

Hurrache wrote: »

FFS Brady, it was accidentally clicked when scrolling through the feed. I've liked some ****e myself when doing so. Untangle the knickers.

Yis'll all have to be verging on living in fantasy if you think that he liked it intentionally to begin with, and have a screw lose to claim it was unliked because of feedback.

Richmond doesn't know what side he's on. He's against the DUP, then against Sinn Fein.. blah blah.

He will say anything to get votes.

One thing is for certain, himself and the rest of FG couldn't care less about the people in the North.

Hurrache

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Bizarre. They are discussing Arlene's tweet now on the Tonight show and Neale Richmond was allowed leave without being asked why he liked it.

FFS Brady, it was accidentally clicked when scrolling through the feed. I've liked some ****e myself when doing so, even in this site. Untangle the knickers.

Yis'll all have to be verging on living in fantasy if you think that he liked it intentionally to begin with, and have a screw lose to claim it was unliked because of feedback.

Scuid Mhór

bilston wrote: »

Serious escalation tonight.

Up until tonight it was Loyalists v Police

Tonight it has become sectarian.

Dangerous few days lie ahead.

Grim

Hopefully not. The Troubles were well before my time but it's fair to say the vast, vast majority of people inhabiting this country have no interest in it repeating.

Any idea as to how this may escalate?

hotmail.com

McMurphy wrote: »

Front page of RTE, Indo, Irish Times and the examiner.

Ok so Irish media pretend to care a bit more about it. The picture of a burning bus is also good for the headline.

But ordinary Irish don't give a toss what happens in Belfast. So why would we expect people in Midlands of England to care?

Tyrone212

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just take a read off his wikipedia page.

1) He has been strongly critical of SF and the Provisional IRA (Fair enough)

2) He's in favour of Ireland re-joining the British commonwealth
Richmond wears the Irish branch of the British Legions "shamrock remembrance poppy"

3) Richmond stated that he considers that theEaster Lily "has become offensive"

And there's many more like him in FG like John Bruton. Charlie Flanagan etc. Richmonds grandfather was a member of the orange order from Cavan
https://twitter.com/nealerichmond/status/1067075310598918144?lang=en

He finds the Easter lily offensive yet he's all smiles meeting the orange order which bans Catholics and Protestants who are married to Catholics. I'm not religious but surely that's offensive to every decent person.

punisher5112

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

What fighters fighting for freedom are you referring to?

Ireland's independence