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M7 - Naas/Newbridge Bypass Upgrade [Junction 9a now open]

JupiterKid

Following on from the suggestion of a poster, this thread has been set up to discuss the need for widening the M7.

The section of the M7 IMO in immediate need (really a backlog need) for widening is the section from the Maudlins Interchange at Naas to the M9 interchange - basically the original 1983 Naas Bypass and half of the 1993 Newbridge Bypass. Is this likely to proceed in the near future?

Would the central median be wide enough for widening to D3M here? I'm pretty sure it is wide enough on the Newbridge bypass section but I'm not so sure in the case of the Naas Bypass.

Also, what bridges will need to be demolished and rebuilt? Or would it be more practical to drop the hard shoulder through the existing bridges?

What about the proposal a few years back to build a new junction at on the Naas Bypass at Osberstown? Will it still go ahead?

In the longer term, does anyone see a need to widen the M7 to the N7/M8 junction?

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MYSTICA1

This article seems to suggest the bypass is already open! Can anyone local confirm?
https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2021/04/06/soft-opening-for-sallins-bypass/?fbclid=IwAR0qwdGAWglHhzVCz_6EvFmqHdt5Y5PkPMooNOMSdQMGpTHIohM0wjdQqAA

Kevtherev1

MYSTICA1 wrote: »

This article seems to suggest the bypass is already open! Can anyone local confirm?
https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2021/04/06/soft-opening-for-sallins-bypass/?fbclid=IwAR0qwdGAWglHhzVCz_6EvFmqHdt5Y5PkPMooNOMSdQMGpTHIohM0wjdQqAA

So somebody nearby go out in their car and drive it to confirm etc

MYSTICA1

Kevtherev1 wrote: »

So somebody nearby go out in their car and drive it to confirm etc

There are people who post on this forum who can see it from their house. No need to be a smart ass.

riggersmark

I'll be passing by in the morning I'll let u all know if its not confirmed by then

MYSTICA1

I have been told elsewhere that it is not, in fact, open this evening. Over-eager reporting by the politician and journalist again&#55357;&#56898;

fullstop

MYSTICA1 wrote: »

This article seems to suggest the bypass is already open! Can anyone local confirm?
https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2021/04/06/soft-opening-for-sallins-bypass/?fbclid=IwAR0qwdGAWglHhzVCz_6EvFmqHdt5Y5PkPMooNOMSdQMGpTHIohM0wjdQqAA

Page/article is gone, and no I don’t believe it’s open as 9a would have to be open and the barricades are still up.

BuzzFish

Not open. Passed Kerry Group at 7pm and junction all closed up. And traffic lights powered off.

Suprise surprise, Mr Clear jumps the gun again.

riggersmark

9a junction still closed at 8am on Wednesday morning. Just passed and barriers are still up

riddlinrussell

BuzzFish wrote: »

Not open. Passed Kerry Group at 7pm and junction all closed up. And traffic lights powered off.

Suprise surprise, Mr Clear jumps the gun again.

*snip*

To be fair to him on this one, he isn't quoted as saying its open, just about the upcoming millbank closure. Not that he hasn't jumped the gun before.

This seems like an over-eager reporter moreso.

It is opening very imminently, but yeah not yet.

riggersmark

Finally some official news. Exit 9a opening Friday Morning

Pete_Cavan

Do we know yet what road number the Sallins Bypass will have? It probably should have been a National Secondary and immediately look to extend it, bypassing Clane and joining the R408 east of Rathcoffey. Maybe even take in the R445 so that it would eventually run from Newbridge to Maynooth, it would be a relatively short National Secondary but traffic volumes and road standard could be well above many NSs.

riddlinrussell

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

Do we know yet what road number the Sallins Bypass will have? It probably should have been a National Secondary and immediately look to extend it, bypassing Clane and joining the R408 east of Rathcoffey. Maybe even take in the R445 so that it would eventually run from Newbridge to Maynooth, it would be a relatively short National Secondary but traffic volumes and road standard could be well above many NSs.

According to the Kildare CC notification on the closure of Millbank road

ROAD TO BE CLOSED

Sallins Link Road (L1102)

(Millbank Road)

From (Junction with)

Roundabout on Sallins Bypass (R407)

To (Junction with)

Clane Rd (L3014)

So the current R407 (The road through Sallins) is becoming the L3014, the Bypass becomes the new R407 and the Sallins link road itself is the new L1102

jmkennedyie

Regarding extending northwards...there is a strategic reservation zoning just east of Clane to facilitate a long term Liffey crossing to Celbridge Road at least, but no route to Bodenstown reserved or earmarked...that will be an interesting alignment due to studs, farmlands, mature woodland, etc.

Sections of existing R407 Clane to Kilcock Road upgraded over recent years. Would be surprised if a different alignment veers in towards Rathcoffey...and R408 is a very basic road. Main commercial traffic appears to head to Kilcock and M4...lots of national distribution centres in the region for supermarket chains etc and more on the way...application for one North of Sallins IIRC.

Reservations exist for several short relief roads around Clane village...Celbridge/Kilcock expected to start construction soon, others years out if ever.

Finally, for what it is worth the Leinster Outer Orbital Route is a long term national primary road route reservation west of Clane from Newbridge/Naas to Trim/Navan as I recall and over to Drogheda.

Pete_Cavan

jmkennedyie wrote: »

Regarding extending northwards...there is a strategic reservation zoning just east of Clane to facilitate a long term Liffey crossing to Celbridge Road at least, but no route to Bodenstown reserved or earmarked...that will be an interesting alignment due to studs, farmlands, mature woodland, etc.

Sections of existing R407 Clane to Kilcock Road upgraded over recent years. Would be surprised if a different alignment veers in towards Rathcoffey...and R408 is a very basic road. Main commercial traffic appears to head to Kilcock and M4...lots of national distribution centres in the region for supermarket chains etc and more on the way...application for one North of Sallins IIRC.

Reservations exist for several short relief roads around Clane village...Celbridge/Kilcock expected to start construction soon, others years out if ever.

Finally, for what it is worth the Leinster Outer Orbital Route is a long term national primary road route reservation west of Clane from Newbridge/Naas to Trim/Navan as I recall and over to Drogheda.

Bodenstown Golf Course closed didn't it? Could be an option for part of an extension north.

The R408 would need upgrading but I was thinking in terms of potentially a new M4 junction to replace the existing substandard Maynooth junction.

The Outer Orbital Route has no formal reservation and I'm not sure that is even part of any current policy or strategy documents. It is unlikely to ever happen.

[Deleted User]

The Leinster Orbital Route is not part of any plan or forecasts. It's not mentioned in any recent policy documents. It'll never happen IMO.

BelfastVanMan

HabibiLibneni wrote: »

The Leinster Orbital Route is not part of any plan or forecasts. It's not mentioned in any recent policy documents. It'll never happen IMO.

Sadly, I agree with you.

KrisW1001

I always thought that the problem that the Leinster Outer Orbital has been put forward as a solution for is better solved by improving the National Secondary network outside Leinster, and the Regional route network in Kildare, Meath and Louth.

The further away from the M7/M9 junction you get, the more options there are on the National Secondary network to reach M1 without coming near to Dublin - it would be better to upgrade these than try to drive a new motorway through the most densely populated part of the country. Closer to Dublin, more 2+2 express routes (like this new bypass) around bottleneck towns in Leinster will give the Leinster-originated traffic a good alternative route across the province that doesn't involve the M50.

Golden Horde

Wonder why the Sallins bypass is opening but the link road into Sallins isn't.

Seeing as Kildare Co Co have issued a closure notice for the road (Millbank part - with the new link road staying open) for 6 weeks in May-June, they obviously see it being opened by then - just not tomorrow...?

BelfastVanMan

Golden Horde wrote: »

Wonder why the Sallins bypass is opening but the link road into Sallins isn't.

Seeing as Kildare Co Co have issued a closure notice for the road (Millbank part - with the new link road staying open) for 6 weeks in May-June, they obviously see it being opened by then - just not tomorrow...?

The existing, i.e. the old part of the link road, closest to the town, still badly needs resurfaced.

Golden Horde

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

The existing, i.e. the old part of the link road, closest to the town, still badly needs resurfaced.

Seems strange though as the old part is in use anyways and we know they are closing it to re-surface and redo the paths next month.

I just don't get why the full link road won't open as part of the main scheme. It seems ready and is part of the solution for Millbank residents while the old part is being redone. So Kildare CoCo will have it open next month when the old part is closed - I suppose I'm wondering out loud why it's not ready to go tomorrow.

riddlinrussell

Golden Horde wrote: »

Seems strange though as the old part is in use anyways and we know they are closing it to re-surface and redo the paths next month.

I just don't get why the full link road won't open as part of the main scheme. It seems ready and is part of the solution for Millbank residents while the old part is being redone. So Kildare CoCo will have it open next month when the old part is closed - I suppose I'm wondering out loud why it's not ready to go tomorrow.

Possibly some legal advice on risk of lawsuits due to surface quality if the whole thing is open as a strategic road rather than a residential cul-de-sac? Maybe it will remain closed until the works happen, where it will be a rolling opening.

MYSTICA1

We have all now learned what a "Soft" opening is!:D:D

BuzzFish

Golden Horde wrote: »

Seems strange though as the old part is in use anyways and we know they are closing it to re-surface and redo the paths next month.

I just don't get why the full link road won't open as part of the main scheme. It seems ready and is part of the solution for Millbank residents while the old part is being redone. So Kildare CoCo will have it open next month when the old part is closed - I suppose I'm wondering out loud why it's not ready to go tomorrow.

Could be that while resurfacing they will also run services to the new link and so they need the road closed to dig it up. If they did this before the bypass was opened the residents of Millbank would have been stranded. I've nothing to back this up, just a thought.

SeeMoreBut

Every TD and councilor etc will be making an non essential journey for the opening today with a photographer in tow for that important photo followed by a comment like they built the road themselves

yannakis

According to all the news sources and a couple of user reports, the bypass is open since 11:00 this morning!

You'll also see it mapped and routable in Waze:

Rulmeq

yannakis wrote: »

According to all the news sources and a couple of user reports, the bypass is open since 11:00 this morning!

You'll also see it mapped and routable in Waze:

Is R407 the correct label, the same as the other route into Naas?

NSAman

Is this thing not finished YET?

yannakis

Rulmeq wrote: »

Is R407 the correct label, the same as the other route into Naas?

According to the new signs, the bypass is R407, the part of R407 through Sallins is now L3014 (this change will be live in a few days).

NSAman wrote: »

Is this thing not finished YET?

Still no date for the link road to Sallins town centre :rolleyes:

Kevtherev1

Confirm the bypass opened 11am this morning. Drove the new road shortly after. Then went to sallins Lidl. Walked up the Sallins link road. The paths and bike lane also connect to grand canal greenway going into Sallins.

Lots of people trying the walk and bike routes on the bypass. Drove back on bypass via naas ring road. Overall a excellent bypass lots of trucks going via bypass as well. It was worth the wait, still some engineers and construction staff pottering around observing how the opening is going.

The resurfacing and new paths on Millbank road are due to complete June 25th 2021 so the sallin link road will likely open shortly after.

ongarboy

RTE news : Sallins bypass in Kildare opens to traffic

http://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0409/1208730-kildare-road-opening/