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El_Duderino 09

recyclebin wrote: »

Seems like an awful long time between first and second race. I guess we got spoiled last season when the season got started, it felt like the next race always came thick and fast.

The three week break will probably give teams time to develop and iron out issues from Bahrain. Mercedes will probably benefit most.

The bigger teams say they have let off staff to meet the budget cap so will that effect development. Seems a shame when the drivers salary isn't included in the budget cap. Would make it more interesting.

Ah, F1 never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. They had Drive to Survive which generated great interest amongst potential f1 fans, and then a great opening race (which would normally have been a very boring race in Melbourne) and then a three week gap to allow all those potential new fans to forget about it and lose track of when the next race will be.

ELM327

This is almost worse than the preseason.
We've had a taste of a great race and I want more!! I actually feel that the WDC is up for grabs this year. Would love to see it go down to the last race between max and lewis, and an end to HAM BOT VER!

recyclebin

Seems like an awful long time between first and second race. I guess we got spoiled last season when the season got started, it felt like the next race always came thick and fast.

The three week break will probably give teams time to develop and iron out issues from Bahrain. Mercedes will probably benefit most.

The bigger teams say they have let off staff to meet the budget cap so will that effect development. Seems a shame when the drivers salary isn't included in the budget cap. Would make it more interesting.

Lawlesz

Jordan 199 wrote: »

I'm reading some special features on the motorsport.com website. Very good article about when Kimi joined Sauber in 2001 and what it meant for his then team-mate Nick Heidfeld.

Was quite a good episode on the Bring back V10s podcast recently, with Kimis engineer from Sauber describing how that move came about, and how his move to McLaren affected Heidfeld

Jordan 199

I'm reading some special features on the motorsport.com website. Very good article about when Kimi joined Sauber in 2001 and what it meant for his then team-mate Nick Heidfeld.

[Deleted User]

Hard to skirt around talk of vaccines etc. but it's frustratingly still up in the air. If you get AZ then even if you got the first dose in June it'll be late September before the second dose. If things keep going slowly then even the single-dose could arrive pretty late.
But yeah it's really up in the air. My less-ambitious plan for now is to get over to the UK in September/October for a couple of BTCC races. They'll be well sorted by then and hopefully we'll just about get to the point we can nip over. For Europe they're treading water like us so a few weeks difference could be massive even at the end of the summer.
Belgium/Holland/Italy on consecutive weekends at the end of August into September could be pretty fun. But I don't think I could get someone to mind the dog for that long. :P

SmashingPilot

Mrtm17 wrote: »

Anybody booked flights etc for any races this year had planned on going to my first one last year, could end up the same this year who knows

I had tickets and flights for Hungary last year. F1 tickets were refunded and we moved our flights to the same weekend this year. I'm hoping rather than expecting that we'll be able to go.

Mrtm17

Anybody booked flights etc for any races this year had planned on going to my first one last year, could end up the same this year who knows

AMKC

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

Poor effort.

Actually I seen a better effort recently only 3days too Late unfortunatly.

It went something

Like,

Mercedes AMG banned from F1 due to outlawed floor and giving data to Aston Martin F1

Jordan 199

Happy Easter to you all

Jordan 199

Hopefully Max and Lewis can battle throughout the remainder of the season and have a championship showdown in Abu Dhabi. That would be good.

SureYWouldntYa

The last few laps were fairly edge of your seat stuff with the race going down to the line, Lewis tyres were quite bad and a bit of oversteer or bad grip on the final corner could have opened the door for Max

There's a good few double and triple headers later in the year to look forward to at least

Adamocovic

I really hope Max stuns Lewis this year too.

Have a fear that if Lewis wins he’ll pack his things and move on. Who could blame him?

But would love to see him next year in a season where there should be more battling going on. If he didn’t win it this year maybe he’d look at it as unfinished business and come back for another one.

Adamocovic

Lord I wish there was a race this weekend.

Biggest compliment to the competition in my mind, and shows moves in right direction. Always watch but feeling really excited about this season.

Seems like the middle of the pack are squeezed even closer and now that Lewis has some legitimate competition (or so we think) it adds some excitement up front.

Last week was very entertaining. Jumped out of my seat a few times good. Mazepin had be laughing by turn 2.

Really hope this is a precursor for next season. Keep hearing about how the 2022 regulations will begin to level the playing field more. Will be great if that happens.

Glico Man

muckwarrior wrote: »

Holy sh*t, 25 years :eek:
I still think of it as the 'new' Australian track.

Ditto. I still have Hakkinen almost dying seared into my early f1 memories at the 'old' track of Adelaide in '95.

muckwarrior

flazio wrote: »

Promo video on the F1 twitter

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1377587798903980032?s=19

Holy sh*t, 25 years :eek:
I still think of it as the 'new' Australian track.

Harika

Inquitus wrote: »

Agreed, I think the penalty would have been enough to put Max into 2nd regardless of the gap, if he had just carried on for the next 4 laps or so.

As race control was so quick to order Verstappen back , ignoring it would be just in the best case promote him via penalty to second, in worst case black flag. He still had four laps to overtake Hamilton, so better option

Debub

Deleted User wrote: »

Fairly big changes in laptimes. Could be looking at full throttle from the current turn 4 to 11 guessing from a low-res image.

apparently almost 5 seconds faster per lap - and another DRS zone added, we might have overtakes :-)

Lip Out

Deleted User wrote: »

I mentioned in the Bahrain track that a simple solution to track limits would be sausage kerbs perpendicular to the track on exit. If teams want to take the chance they can make design decisions as well.
It reminded me of the really irritating baby-ing that the FIA does with drivers and teams. We see it with drivers taking ridiculous risks and the fault never being put on them. Then they bring in silly rules that make not a whole lot of sense but lead to penalty points for someone not slowing down when they've already passed an incident.
Build the track, there are already walls in places on some tracks, put the ramps in, and whatever happens, **** it. Keep it simple.

Didn't the sausage kerbs promote ramping at some track a few years ago? Might not be the safest if a driver was to lose the back end mid corner and slide into them.

Agree though, a simple solution is needed. Perhaps a surface that will promote loss of traction would work.

Wanderer78

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[Deleted User]

I mentioned in the Bahrain track that a simple solution to track limits would be sausage kerbs perpendicular to the track on exit. If teams want to take the chance they can make design decisions as well.
It reminded me of the really irritating baby-ing that the FIA does with drivers and teams. We see it with drivers taking ridiculous risks and the fault never being put on them. Then they bring in silly rules that make not a whole lot of sense but lead to penalty points for someone not slowing down when they've already passed an incident.
Build the track, there are already walls in places on some tracks, put the ramps in, and whatever happens, **** it. Keep it simple.

AMKC

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

Poor effort.

A sure it was worth a try. It is that day.

Frank Bullitt

AMKC wrote: »

Just breaking,

https://www.facebook.com/100001767218996/posts/4046184412068456/?substory_index=29&sfnsn=mo

Poor effort.

AMKC

Just breaking,

https://www.facebook.com/100001767218996/posts/4046184412068456/?substory_index=29&sfnsn=mo

barryribs

flazio wrote: »

Anyone familiar with this dilemma?
I like it, I'm just not sure if I €100 like it.
https://www.mclarenstore.com/en/mclaren-f1-2021-team-hoodie/701206580-antracit.html

I know I'm a month late, but fuelforfans.com are doing 20% off your first order. I'd preordered an Alpha Tauri jacket and arrived today.

[Deleted User]

Debub wrote: »

https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/63338/australian-grand-prix-circuit-changes-first-look/

small changes on the track layout for Australia

Fairly big changes in laptimes. Could be looking at full throttle from the current turn 4 to 11 guessing from a low-res image.

SureYWouldntYa

Its the same thing with all street tracks, fantastic to knock up a lap on by yourself but for wheel to wheel racing and following cars in a race its often not great

Zandvoort will be the same later this year since it has few straights and is very narrow in place, the onboards for qualifying will be fantastic but the actual racing won't be more than likely, you'd be hoping for rain and surprises in the upper positions for a race you'd be happy with

El_Duderino 09

I’d certainly give Albert park a second chance with the revised corners. It’s essentially a street track and I think street tracks are generally a total bags. Monaco being the case in point.

But then they also have Baku and Montreal which can have very good races because they have decent straights as well as stupidly tight corners for F1 cars.

I’d scrap Albert park but will give it another go with the new changes.

flazio

Debub wrote: »

https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/63338/australian-grand-prix-circuit-changes-first-look/

small changes on the track layout for Australia

Promo video on the F1 twitter

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1377587798903980032?s=19

El_Duderino 09

I’m sure red bull believed Max was highly likely to pass Lewis again anyway before the end of the race. I certainly thought it was very likely. They just thought they had all the advantages so they could win the race straight out.

If the way had tried to brazen it out by ignoring race control and taking the penalty, then the narrative would have been asking why he didn’t just give the place back as he would have passed Lewis easily on the next lap.