richie123 wrote: » Yes so people producing good food stay in business. And yes again to bad food more expensive Thats self explanatory purely for health reasons obesity Diabetes etc. the more expensive it is the less gets bought
odyssey06 wrote: » There's no evidence the producers are affected by this once off LIDL offer. You want to make bad food more expensive and good food more expensive. Yet somehow this will change people's eating habits or help producers? How will it help producers if their over-priced products sit on the shelves unsold and supermarkets cut their orders in half - based on what you have said "The more expensive it is the less gets bought" You can argue current prices aren't sustainable or that junk food needs to be taxed higher, but to argue for higher prices across board will lead to more lamb \ non junk food being solid doesn't seem to add up to me.
green123 wrote: » I don't understand why farmers complain about cheap food in supermarkets. Firstly I think farmers should be paid way more for their produce. A price that would mean farmers would not have to push the land so hard and not use so much fertiliser and whatever else. Less intensive farming would be better for farmers, customers and the land. But then once the farmer sells and gets a fair price what difference is it to the farmer what price the supermarkets sell for? If they want to give it away for free sure so what? Supermarkets have loss leaders on Easter eggs as Shelflife has pointed out in an above post. At Christmas they sell the tubs of sweets very cheap. They have beer and spirits at or below cost nearly always on special offer. I never hear the chocolate or drinks manufacturers complaining about below cost selling.
Shelflife wrote: » Because long term it does affect the producer. Next year the local butchers won’t pay the big prices for spring lambs because he was left with them this year because he was priced out of the market. That means that there are now less buyers in the market and that will affect the price and the availability of the product, if Mary can’t get her leg of lamb in her local butcher she will buy something else and thus the lamb market shrinks.
odyssey06 wrote: » But they are selling more lambs than they would have via the deals. People will be buying lamb that would not have otherwise. It's not just LIDL, almost all the major supermarkets have lamb deals running at present and this isn't the first year. The local butchers would have already factored in the competition, or should have.
kk.man wrote: » V true. Talking to the the local butcher losing 10 - 15e per lamb but has to stock it. Make no mistake this is supermarket power they demand a price drop from the factories during the 'offers' and if they don't get it, it's goodbye contract.
whelan2 wrote: » Was talking to a farmers wife a few years ago. He would be a bit bossy to her. All meat to come from butchers he told her. She was given an allowance for groceries each week. She said if she bought all the meat in the butchers there would be no money left. So she would get the meat in lidl and tell him it was from the butchers. He used to say it was lovely meat...
odyssey06 wrote: » That makes no sense, contradicting your own argument. You want people to buy more good food by making it... more expensive. You want people to buy less bad food by making it... more expensive?
SouthWesterly wrote: » I got 2 organic lambs about 6 months ago for 140 each butchered. 26kg of meat each. That and the Angus in my freezer, I've not had to buy any meat in a long time.
Kat1170 wrote: » As has already been pointed out, two to three chops per lamb and he has that €15 back. I've never seen a poor butcher in my life.
Base price wrote: » It is Inisvale but it's €6.47/kghttps://www.lidl.ie/en/p/product-recommendation/irish-whole-lamb-leg/p2182
kk.man wrote: » Kilkenny City Centre had 4 butcher shops in recent years. Its got one now. Two of the three that shut up had really good exposure in terms of location.
Odelay wrote: » Please don’t get me wrong on this, but could the allowance not be the same as a budget?
green daries wrote: » The father always used to rear his own beef and lamb imo its just miles better
Say my name wrote: » One of the family here had orders to get a 'good bit of beef in the local town' for tomorrow. Beef with fat and marbling. Went into some of the butchers. Reply was it's getting nigh on impossible to get that sort of beef. Not sure what they're doing now. Probably going to Aldi..to look for angus beef. We've a farming system where tough oul continental shoe leather is rewarded in the factories because the Europeans set up the grid. And the majority of the cattle kill, the British and dairy breeds that actually have the fat and flavour are not paid accordingly to the farmer. The father read somewhere that someone went into the butchers for lamb and was quoted €35. Don't know what it was or where. Must have been in the indo paper.
carrollsno1 wrote: » Is Kennas gone now too? Or are you counting O Briens in the four? Havent been up friary street in a long long time, youve the fella at the top of Johns Street still going too.
tjhook wrote: » I'm not a farmer, I have little exposure to the wider issues mentioned here, but specifically on this lamb topic... About lamb in particular... We wouldn't have done a leg of lamb before - I'm not sure why really, I find lamb tasty but it's just not our habit. We'd often put a chicken or beef in the oven, I'm not sure lamb would be any more difficult. If I'd spotted this special over the past week I'd have been very tempted to try it, and if it was a success with the kids we'd be very likely to buy it again. They'd make sure of that! And we may not be unique.
