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Cycling Mikey

Seve OB

Any of you guys seen this fellas You Tube channel and whatever other platform he posts on? I'm all for seeing road users who break the laws/rules get punished, but this guy goes way to far. I should point out before anyone gets the wrong impression that I do believe if someone is breaking the law they should be punished. While I have absolutely no sympathy for some of these drivers, it's Mickeys attitude and the way he goes about his business and some of his "collars" is what I despise.

The first few of his videos which I seen left me kind of impressed with him to be honest, but that's because they were genuine enough going about his daily business and coming across absolute assholes.

But then you look at what he actually does, he has targeted a few locations where he can shoot some fish in a barrel. He purposely just goes out to catch motorists breaking the law, which some will commend him for and some of the absolute tossers he has caught most definitely deserved their punishment, but most of them are quite innocent and Mickey is just on a bit of a power trip. He cycles up and down gridlocked traffic to try and catch someone who might be checking their messages/maps whatever. These are stationary cars who are not moving anywhere. He sneaks up on them and if they don't twig him looking through their window he might read out their text/private information. He calls out their reg number in the phonetic alphabet as if he is on the Bill. He stands behind bushes with his helmet cam on ready to jump out at unsuspecting road users. He speaks to them like he is their superior.

I am surprised I haven't seen any comments on his videos which slate him off for what he does, but I guess he probably just gets them deleted. I have only seen one video of his where someone shouted some stick at him for doing what he does. I'm surprised he hasn't had more threats, although maybe he just keeps those clips to himself or I'd say it would be more likely that he is trying to get people prosecuted for threating behaviour.

I'm surprised he hasn't been slapped around a bit or had his bike nicked (although maybe he has). All in all, I find him to be a very unlikable person, slithery and sneaky.

What do you think of him and they way he conducts his operations?

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timmyjimmy

CramCycle wrote: »

Apparently she says to him he shouldn't be there (I don't see it or hear it, he says it in a reply), but regardless, it is a shared space, and he is moving too fast, in particular because he can clearly see her from ages away. No ifs or buts, he is in the wrong no matter what she said.

There's lots of examples of righttobikeit behaving in a same manner. He deletes lots of videos where he gets called out. I actually saw him with my own 2 eyes cycling the wrong way down a one way straight and then give out to someone who walked in front of him.
I don't know but I think career bike camera men are probably the worst type of cyclist, they all seem to have a chip on their shoulder.

CramCycle

Mc Love wrote: »

He makes a good point, none of the morons will call the police and if they do, they are even bigger morons.

timmyjimmy wrote: »

Another example of righttobikeit being a law onto himself. This is a shared pedestrian path in Cork:

https://twitter.com/righttobikeit/status/1380600880618147842?s=20

Duckjob wrote: »

"Bike lane". It's not a bike lane through the crossing. There's no clear deliniation for bike/pedestrians there, nor does there need to be. A bit of basic cop on tells you when you're going across a crossing you'll be mixing more closely with people on foot so you just need to slow down a bit.

Apparently she says to him he shouldn't be there (I don't see it or hear it, he says it in a reply), but regardless, it is a shared space, and he is moving too fast, in particular because he can clearly see her from ages away. No ifs or buts, he is in the wrong no matter what she said.

IrishLad90

Wow, thus thread is still going and this Mikey guy has not stopped :O i thought it was just a scorned phase from him

Duckjob

timmyjimmy wrote: »

Another example of righttobikeit being a law onto himself. This is a shared pedestrian path in Cork:

https://twitter.com/righttobikeit/status/1380600880618147842?s=20

"Bike lane". It's not a bike lane through the crossing. There's no clear deliniation for bike/pedestrians there, nor does there need to be. A bit of basic cop on tells you when you're going across a crossing you'll be mixing more closely with people on foot so you just need to slow down a bit.

DaveyDave

Just watched a few of his clips there he really needs to take the lane. It's ridiculous that you have to do it but you really need to force people to budge over the line. For whatever reason motorists will do everything they can to keep their wheel from crossing the lane marker.

When I pass a cyclist my car is fully in the next lane and almost always the cars behind barely move over even though there's no oncoming traffic.

timmyjimmy

Another example of righttobikeit being a law onto himself. This is a shared pedestrian path in Cork:

https://twitter.com/righttobikeit/status/1380600880618147842?s=20

magicbastarder

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The ethical dilemmas of driver shaming

the fact that he had to ask to realise right from wrong here doesn't speak well for him.

[Deleted User]

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The ethical dilemmas of driver shaming

https://twitter.com/MikeyCycling/status/1381670442952495105?s=19

Fair play to him for knowing what grynder looks like from a distance

[Deleted User]

The ethical dilemmas of driver shaming

https://twitter.com/MikeyCycling/status/1381670442952495105?s=19

CramCycle

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Could it be possible that having words with a driver actually helps to improve driving quality?

https://twitter.com/righttobikeit/status/1378021257820700675?s=19

I'll admit I could be wrong, just a devils advocate bit below though and bare with me, I'm very cynical.
This driver is now well behaved around one cyclist or it just happens that some drivers are good sometimes and bad others. Not saying either is the case here. Loads of drivers drive slowly on certain stretches as they are used to cameras there, they don't lift their phones on certain stretches of road as they are common for checkpoints and so on. While I would love to be wrong, those drivers Mickey catches might become better at that junction, I am doubtful they improve in general. Id put money on that if they were in traffic and someone went for it and Mickey didn't step out, they would go for it again, I hope I'm wrong. Like I said, he is doing nothing wrong but if he was in it purely for good (and there is nothing wrong with not being in it solely for the benefit of others), he'd do alot more if he just took info and reported. He would catch alot more and many people would learn to behave on the basis they either will or are close to losing their licence.

[Deleted User]

Seve OB wrote: »

Did I say that I overtake cyclists like that?

If you think that driver was 'taking his opportunity' you really do need to learn to driver.

Seve OB

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Please hand over your driving licence until you learn to overtake properly.

Did I say that I overtake cyclists like that?

[Deleted User]

Seve OB wrote: »

I see a driver waiting for an opportunity to pass on a tight road in one clip.

In the other clip on a much wider road I see a driver taking his opportunity to pass, but cut it a bit tight in doing so.

Please hand over your driving licence until you learn to overtake properly.

[Deleted User]

Bloody amateur, how the hell does he expect to get the clicks and thumbs ups if he doesn't hide in a bush like Mikey

Seve OB

I see a driver waiting for an opportunity to pass on a tight road in one clip.

In the other clip on a much wider road I see a driver taking his opportunity to pass, but cut it a bit tight in doing so.

MojoMaker

Good result. Cough duly softened for the good of all.

[Deleted User]

Could it be possible that having words with a driver actually helps to improve driving quality?

https://twitter.com/righttobikeit/status/1378021257820700675?s=19

Mc Love

Now that, is a special kind of stupid. I hope he was arrested on the spot

CramCycle

Mc Love wrote: »

He makes a good point, none of the morons will call the police and if they do, they are even bigger morons.

Don't underestimate stupidity, we have a drug dealer in Dublin turn up at the station to report his gear taken. It was the Gardai who cleared it in a raid.

km991148

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Looks like all the predictions that someone was going to physically respond to Mikey were correct.

...

Amazing how people that were in so much of a rush that they had to drive on the wrong side of the road seemingly have loads of time to hang around and debate the point.

I seen that yesterday - but too busy for here..

Unfortunately correct on both points.

Mc Love

CramCycle wrote: »

"Have you not seen the viral videos" LOL, no, its a few thousand views in a city of millions a good chunk of those views are probably from Ireland at the minute.

This said, it is funny how many of them persist in engaging with him, they are morons. You see the smart ones immediately pull back in, but the ones who persist, you have to wonder the mentality. They would have been through the junction. I still say if his only interest was safety though he would simply sit there and film and report. That said, luckily for him he isn't in Ireland or he would have to go to court each time of the gardai even bothered and a judge or garda would blame him for some of the incidents.

He makes a good point, none of the morons will call the police and if they do, they are even bigger morons.

CramCycle

Deleted User wrote: »

Has he campaigned the relevant authority to do something to prevent cars going down the right on that stretch? Seems like a no brainer with the amount of video he has there. I'd be more supportive of him if he won the battle here like that and move the war on somewhere else.

Can't make money if people start behaving. Buffalo is right that it is up to the police but on the same note, they obviously haven't noted a pattern of accidents there or they presumably would have done something. He could easily have made a reasonable petition to the council or met if safety was his primary concern.

crazy 88

buffalo wrote: »

Why is it up to him to fix the problem? There's no pleasing some people! Surely the police or LA should notice the amount of fines being issued at that junction and take action?

So he can finally move on with his life and into move into proper accommodation instead of living behind a bush

buffalo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Has he campaigned the relevant authority to do something to prevent cars going down the right on that stretch? Seems like a no brainer with the amount of video he has there. I'd be more supportive of him if he won the battle here like that and move the war on somewhere else.

Why is it up to him to fix the problem? There's no pleasing some people!

Surely the police or LA should notice the amount of fines being issued at that junction and take action?

[Deleted User]

Has he campaigned the relevant authority to do something to prevent cars going down the right on that stretch? Seems like a no brainer with the amount of video he has there. I'd be more supportive of him if he won the battle here like that and move the war on somewhere else.

CramCycle

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

It seems to take 1-2 years for the police/courts to process a case, based on the timing of release of videos. So he has the choice of a 1-2 year time lag for the driver to get the message, or immediate delivery of that message. I know which one is more effective.

The YouTube hits are almost certain to have some degree of deterrent effect too.

I admire your optimism but a lot of people with that attitude that the drivers in the video have will not learn from this, the video or anything else and a lot of people will look at this and just think he is a tosser and what's the harm in what they are doing. I don't agree with them but the truth of the matter is if youtube videos had any noticeable affect on driver behaviour, things would have improved along time ago.
If he hit them hard with multiple fines and DQs, that would have an affect, this achieves very little in the context of his city as a whole and the behaviour of these drivers once they are away from this area.
I don't begrudge him making a buck out of it, its entertaining in the way Alan Partridge or David Brent is entertaining, but don't dress is up as anything else other than him making a buck, like CSR, I'd sooner this than nothing at all.
If the gardai had a similar system I'd happily upload my commutes every day, I'd be making them a mint and I don't mind Cycling mickey, its certainly entertaining in a way he doesn't intend, but I won't buy that he is on some noble mission.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

When I was a child we had a toy called stretched armstrong. You could stretch it into all kinds of tortured shapes

Nice story, but should we get back to talking about Mikey?

CramCycle wrote: »

I get the crystalline point but it's crystallising it in one person's mind. Most drivers, like cyclists are creatures of habit. If he just sat there and filmed, day in and day out, he'd have most of them off the road or fined enough they would start behaving. All that crowd might do is start behaving at that one junction. They will still misbehave elsewhere. I think it's great he is doing it but anyone who thinks he is doing it as some beacon of justice is misguided at best, it's YouTube hits and nothing else.

It seems to take 1-2 years for the police/courts to process a case, based on the timing of release of videos. So he has the choice of a 1-2 year time lag for the driver to get the message, or immediate delivery of that message. I know which one is more effective.

The YouTube hits are almost certain to have some degree of deterrent effect too.

Car99

Cycling micky is getting 500k to 1million plus views on his more popular videos that us a nice little earner probably pulling in 3k a month after tax.

CramCycle

I get the crystalline point but it's crystallising it in one person's mind. Most drivers, like cyclists are creatures of habit. If he just sat there and filmed, day in and day out, he'd have most of them off the road or fined enough they would start behaving. All that crowd might do is start behaving at that one junction. They will still misbehave elsewhere. I think it's great he is doing it but anyone who thinks he is doing it as some beacon of justice is misguided at best, it's YouTube hits and nothing else.

[Deleted User]

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

1) Most cyclists ARE motorists.
2) Most keyboard warriors ARE motorists.

You're right to say that most of them probably don't drive in that location, but do you think it is reasonable to say that maybe 1% of viewers drive in that location occasionally?

When I was a child we had a toy called stretched armstrong. You could stretch it into all kinds of tortured shapes