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Rikand

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Grand way to pass the weekend but the only things I'll really remember are Sergio's hole in one and Horschel's duff from the middle of the fairway.

Roll on the Masters.

And Fleetwoods hole in one where fritelli called it from 25 feet out

eagle eye

Rikand wrote:

Ah sure you might as well pick names out of a hat so in that case

Or maybe pick the best golfers and only consider previous Ryder Cup performances as enhancing somebody's chances of getting picked.

I really don't care about the Ryder Cup anymore and I won't be watching it. It's just a bunch of neighbours representing geographical regions.
Still it's obvious that many do care, how including players, so best players and maybe pick a guy within five spots of making it if his record in the Ryder Cup is outstanding.

Deeper Blue

eagle eye wrote: »

I really don't care about the Ryder Cup anymore and I won't be watching it. It's just a bunch of neighbours representing geographical regions.

Well you're in the minority there.

I think the Ryder cup is the best tournament in golf.

I imagine most would agree.

The Big Easy

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Well you're in the minority there.

I think the Ryder cup is the best tournament in golf.

I imagine most would agree.

Probably Masters, Open, US Open then Ryder Cup, then PGA for me

tayto lover

The Big Easy wrote: »

Probably Masters, Open, US Open then Ryder Cup, then PGA for me

Ryder, Masters, Open, US Open and PGA.

eagle eye

Deeper Blue wrote:

Well you're in the minority there.

I'm well aware of that. Most people I know love it. I used to but just look at the Americans, it's less important to them than the President's Cup.
It's really lost a lot too with so many of the Europeans living full time in the US.

Deeper Blue

eagle eye wrote: »

Just look at the Americans, it's less important to them than the President's Cup.

Now that's just not true

The Big Easy

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm well aware of that. Most people I know love it. I used to but just look at the Americans, it's less important to them than the President's Cup.
It's really lost a lot too with so many of the Europeans living full time in the US.

The President's Cup is a poor man's Ryder Cup!

Mantis Toboggan

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm well aware of that. Most people I know love it. I used to but just look at the Americans, it's less important to them than the President's Cup.
It's really lost a lot too with so many of the Europeans living full time in the US.

Are you American? Can't be easy watching the Europeans dominate in recent times.

Ottoman_1000

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm well aware of that. Most people I know love it. I used to but just look at the Americans, it's less important to them than the President's Cup.
It's really lost a lot too with so many of the Europeans living full time in the US.

You must be joking?? There is not one top golfer who rates the Presidents cup over the Ryder Cup???

Rikand

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm well aware of that. Most people I know love it. I used to but just look at the Americans, it's less important to them than the President's Cup.
It's really lost a lot too with so many of the Europeans living full time in the US.

The only reason they might like the presidents cup is because they have a chance of winning that one. Have they ever lost ?
I can imagine the Ryder cup is a chore for them to be beaten time and time again by vastly inferior players

gypsy79

The Big Easy wrote: »

Probably Masters, Open, US Open then Ryder Cup, then PGA for me

eagle eye

Rikand wrote:

The only reason they might like the presidents cup is because they have a chance of winning that one. Have they ever lost ? I can imagine the Ryder cup is a chore for them to be beaten time and time again by vastly inferior players

I'd imagine for any American under 30 that playing the rest of the world is a much bigger deal than playing just Europe.
I'm no a fan of it either. A tournament between the US and the rest of the world including Europe is probably the way to go now. That'd be made up of all golfers in the top 30 in the world right now.
People want to talk about history, Ryder Cup in it's present format is only about 15 years older than the President's Cup.

Ottoman_1000

eagle eye wrote: »

I'd imagine for any American under 30 that playing the rest of the world is a much bigger deal than playing just Europe.
I'm no a fan of it either. A tournament between the US and the rest of the world including Europe is probably the way to go now. That'd be made up of all golfers in the top 30 in the world right now.
People want to talk about history, Ryder Cup in it's present format is only about 15 years older than the President's Cup.

I will disagree with you on that, you ask any american professional golfer what team he would rather make and its the Ryder Cup every time. Justin Thomas said it was his biggest honor in golf making the last Ryder Cup team in 2018....

Roger_007

Ottoman_1000 wrote: »

I will disagree with you on that, you ask any american professional golfer what team he would rather make and its the Ryder Cup every time. Justin Thomas said it was his biggest honor in golf making the last Ryder Cup team in 2018....

There was a time, before the Europeans became involved, when the Ryder Cup was not regarded with much importance and was dying on its feet. The Americans, in particular, regarded it as a bit of a nuisance which interfered with their off season activities such as fishing and shooting.
The Americans used to win practically every time with whatever team they put out and didn’t regard it as much of an achievement to do so.
I think there it’s much more importance attached to the Ryder Cup in Europe than in America because of the preeminence of the PGA. Many European tour players regard the Ryder Cup as their only chance to play against the ‘big boys’ .

Pogue eile

Roger_007 wrote: »

Many European tour players regard the Ryder Cup as their only chance to play against the ‘big boys’ .

Like who?

The majority if not all of the European Ryder Cup team will be playing on the USPGA tour or at the very minimum all the majors and WGC events. In fact Viktor Perez is the only one in with a chance that doesn't play regularly on the US tour and that will most likely change next year

The Big Easy

Roger_007 wrote: »

There was a time, before the Europeans became involved, when the Ryder Cup was not regarded with much importance and was dying on its feet. The Americans, in particular, regarded it as a bit of a nuisance which interfered with their off season activities such as fishing and shooting.
The Americans used to win practically every time with whatever team they put out and didn’t regard it as much of an achievement to do so.
I think there it’s much more importance attached to the Ryder Cup in Europe than in America because of the preeminence of the PGA. Many European tour players regard the Ryder Cup as their only chance to play against the ‘big boys’ .

That's not really it though. The pre-eminence of the Ryder Cup is down to human psychology and the fact it's a team event.

Professional golfers rarely have the opportunity to play as part of a team and to enjoy the associated camaraderie. To be representing something bigger than yourself - country or continent - is a big deal for them too.

Playing for pride instead of money when you're already fabulously wealthy is pretty cool too. The players love it as exemplified by Rory's about turn after playing in his first one.

Innish_Rebel

The Big Easy wrote: »

Playing for pride instead of money when you're already fabulously wealthy is pretty cool too. The players love it as exemplified by Rory's about turn after playing in his first one.

Agreed.

I also feel the Americans get a bit of a raw deal in talking about their "love" of the Ryder cup. I listen to No laying up podcast & the number of top players who have a focus on qualifying for Ryder cup surprised me. Maybe in some cases giving the response they are expected to give - but not all of them. The recent Hunter Mahan was interesting in that regard too...

Roger_007

Very poor field, relatively speaking, for the Texas Open. I think Tony Fineau is the highest ranked player in the field with nobody from the top 10 and only a handful of the top 50. They must be all saving their energy for the Masters.
I don’t think that the sponsors will be amused.

Dr. Bre

Roger_007 wrote: »

Very poor field, relatively speaking, for the Texas Open. I think Tony Fineau is the highest ranked player in the field with nobody from the top 10 and only a handful of the top 50. They must be all saving their energy for the Masters.
I don’t think that the sponsors will be amused.

And Spieth only playing cos it’s in Texas !

Rikand

Thats what happens to any event sandwiched in between a WGC and a major.

The Honda was in between The Players and the Matchplay and Jack Nicklaus made no secret in announcing his disappointment that the field wasnt as strong as it normally would be.

The strength of field for the Valero (206) is better than it was for the Honda (179)

[Deleted User]

I’d rather watch the first woman’s major than this Texas open.

slave1

Yep, Majors, WGCs, RC and the ole Olympics this year. Sandwich heaven

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’d rather watch the first woman’s major than this Texas open.

I think I’ll take this one back after watching it last night. They follow the same few players and show far to much of them.

abff

It’s been a few years since I had a bet on anything, but I’ve got a sneaking feeling that having a few bob on Rory to win the Masters next week might not be the worst idea ever. Not sure why, but it just seems to resonate.

Trampas

Roger_007 wrote: »

Very poor field, relatively speaking, for the Texas Open. I think Tony Fineau is the highest ranked player in the field with nobody from the top 10 and only a handful of the top 50. They must be all saving their energy for the Masters.
I don’t think that the sponsors will be amused.

It’s around the strength it normally is. High 30’s to 40 for winner. Great chance for the lower ranked players to win one or get good points

Deeper Blue

abff wrote: »

It’s been a few years since I had a bet on anything, but I’ve got a sneaking feeling that having a few bob on Rory to win the Masters next week might not be the worst idea ever. Not sure why, but it just seems to resonate.

Judging by how he's been playing recently plus the coaching change I'd consider that to be a poor enough bet, particularly given his odds (14/1 last time I checked).

I'd put your money on Spieth instead at similar odds.

Deeper Blue

2 shot lead for Spieth with one hole to play. He's been brilliant today. Great to see.

Barnaboy

Deeper Blue wrote: »

2 shot lead for Spieth with one hole to play. He's been brilliant today. Great to see.

Really well deserved. He has been brilliant all weekend when it really mattered. He has to be in the mix for the masters.

fullstop

Delighted for him. Some performance under pressure. That pitch he played on 15 was so ballsy.