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Golf Lockdown Discussion No discussion of breaking Restrictions

Keano

Time to discuss what golf is going to look like for next year, maybe more, who knows.

What is your club doing? What would you like to see happen?

Mod note: we have done to death the restrictions(5k jumping to 20k in June) so this is not a thread for discussing that topic, take it to COVID-19 forum

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Rikand

I just made a few aggressive golf swings in the back garden..... its a good thing that courses arent opening up for another month. I'm in agony

Rikand

Break80 wrote: »

And me as Captain of The Society this year.
We are down to 3 outings now.
If it's members only to Sept we are fcked.

You can be captain again next year. I'm sure nobody will mind

ShivasIrons

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Covid restrictions last season meant you couldn't tee off until a member of staff was in the Club Shop. The club I was member in didn't open the club shop until 8.30am.

Just use the same calculation starting at 8:30?

DaveQuinn2020

opinionated3 wrote: »

........ Or clubs should just open timesheets as normal, advise their members of the government advice, and put the onus on the membership to adhere to the "rules". Who's gonna proactively police the two households rule? No one.

What happens then when the majority of membership adhere to the rules and you get the occasional rogue 4ball? Absolute chaos. We had this for a week in our club last time, and you end up with multiple groups of 2-balls bunched up on tee-boxes behind random 4-balls. If the rules state only 2 households, then the club has to stick to 2-balls or it gets messy very quickly.

Scott Tenorman

ShivasIrons wrote: »

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For all those that think Golf Ireland have failed, golf is the first organised mass participation sport to come back. Was there organised boating, kayaking, sailing or rock climbing during this lockdown? I could be wrong but I don't think there was. Aren't all these activities just as socially distant as golf? Where is their 'golfgate' that kept them closed?

Come on, it’s not the first back- it’s back at the same time as a number of another sports and behind inter-county GAA.

We have had the most golf shutdowns anywhere in the world but they haven’t failed?? Lol

Moving away from that, what do you think of Golf Ireland’s communication to clubs and players during this time? Has it been acceptable in your view?

bustercherry

Scott Tenorman wrote: »

Come on, it’s not the first back- it’s back at the same time as a number of another sports and behind inter-county GAA.

We have had the most golf shutdowns anywhere in the world but they haven’t failed?? Lol

Moving away from that, what do you think of Golf Ireland’s communication to clubs and players during this time? Has it been acceptable in your view?

A tiny percentage of elite players out of all GAA members, to facilitate league/championship fixtures - which were in turn behind the equivalent elite golfers who were able to play I believe all throughout level 5 restrictions.

ShivasIrons

Scott Tenorman wrote: »

Come on, it’s not the first back- it’s back at the same time as a number of another sports and behind inter-county GAA.

We have had the most golf shutdowns anywhere in the world but they haven’t failed?? Lol

Moving away from that, what do you think of Golf Ireland’s communication to clubs and players during this time? Has it been acceptable in your view?

The first mass participation sport back is golf, all other sporting activity which has been going on has been elite/high performance.

Ireland was the worst in the world for the incidence of covid at the start of January, doesn't that mean we needed the most stringent lockdown?

Golf Ireland were only in a lose/lose situation with communication, I'm not sure what they could have done, if anything would have went on social media they just would have been lambasted in the comments. What difference would putting out a tweet saying, 'We engaged with the government this week' and then putting out the same thing the next week and the next week.

Imagine the phone calls that they had to answer in the past few months. Sometimes, staying quiet and doing your job is the best policy.

benji79

If the numbers this evening are an indication of what’s to come when schools fully open you’d worry about any sports on 26th

RGS

benji79 wrote: »

If the numbers this evening are an indication of what’s to come when schools fully open you’d worry about any sports on 26th

We need to look more at hospitalisation and ICU numbers rather than case numbers.
With the most vulnerable receiving vaccines we are in a better position than last year if we had the same number of cases.

benji79

True but higher case numbers can lead to higher chance of people needing hospital treatment. Lower cases has to be a help on that front

prawnsambo

RGS wrote: »

We need to look more at hospitalisation and ICU numbers rather than case numbers.
With the most vulnerable receiving vaccines we are in a better position than last year if we had the same number of cases.

Over 60s should be vaccinated by the end of April, so that will ease things a bit too.

bustercherry

RGS wrote: »

We need to look more at hospitalisation and ICU numbers rather than case numbers.
With the most vulnerable receiving vaccines we are in a better position than last year if we had the same number of cases.

Higher case numbers can lead to bigger risk of mutations and us all going back to square one. Only saying

Ollieboy

benji79 wrote: »

True but higher case numbers can lead to higher chance of people needing hospital treatment. Lower cases has to be a help on that front

Probably not likely and this is the exact issue with these doctors and govt.

1000 people before Xmas with no vaccine would result in say 200 hospitalization.

1000 people today will result in 20. For case numbers to have the same affect on hospitals you would need 10000 cases per day.

The average age of person is now lower and healthy so they will likely shrug the virus off.

This was even confirmed on the news last night by the people in charge of vaccine.

So in summary it’s very unlikely we will ever see the same problems with hospitals with the vaccine.

The govt have lock us down because of fear and ignorance.

We will still have deaths and nobody really know what the consequences of long COVID is on a person but what we are doing is pure madness

Ollieboy

bustercherry wrote: »

Higher case numbers can lead to bigger risk of mutations and us all going back to square one. Only saying

This is true but the COVID virus is part of a family of virus and fairly likely is a mutation from something like SCARS.

But that’s the big question and people needing boaster for years and other virus showing up. Historically these things come in waves.

It’s a really good time to buy shares in drug companies even at today’s prices.

thecomedian

benji79 wrote: »

If the numbers this evening are an indication of what’s to come when schools fully open you’d worry about any sports on 26th

I don’t think they were all from today, some might have been carried over from yesterday.

bustercherry

Ollieboy wrote: »

Probably not likely and this is the exact issue with these doctors and govt.

1000 people before Xmas with no vaccine would result in say 200 hospitalization.

1000 people today will result in 20. For case numbers to have the same affect on hospitals you would need 10000 cases per day.

The average age of person is now lower and healthy so they will likely shrug the virus off.

This was even confirmed on the news last night by the people in charge of vaccine.

So in summary it’s very unlikely we will ever see the same problems with hospitals with the vaccine.

The govt have lock us down because of fear and ignorance.

We will still have deaths and nobody really know what the consequences of long COVID is on a person but what we are doing is pure madness

Without any restrictions and due to the contagiousness of Covid, that is very likely scenario

Mushy

benji79 wrote: »

If the numbers this evening are an indication of what’s to come when schools fully open you’d worry about any sports on 26th

Swab numbers were high yesterday, like 700+ from 14k tests. Today was 550+, but from 19.5k tests. More walk in centres = more tests = higher cases. Go by 7 day average and positivity rate, along with hospitalisations and you'll see its going well. Add in there'll be another about 700k vaccine doses dished out by 26th and we should be laughing

ForeRight

My mates dad has his clubs cleaned and the bag, shoes and trolley all standing at his front door today.
Gonna be a long few weeks for him.

Ollieboy

bustercherry wrote: »

Without any restrictions and due to the contagiousness of Covid, that is very likely scenario

Yes I agree but nobody is saying we don’t need restrictions but we need tight level 3 and have them enforced correctly

Benny Cake

Watching some chicago cubs opening day baseball. Fans at the game all provided with T-Shirts with different MLB approved Slogans, one of which is "Get out, stay safe".... Wouldn't that be a nice departure froms the rubbish we have to deal with.

RGS

Benny Cake wrote: »

Watching some chicago cubs opening day baseball. Fans at the game all provided with T-Shirts with different MLB approved Slogans, one of which is "Get out, stay safe".... Wouldn't that be a nice departure froms the rubbish we have to deal with.

Like that slogan.

Think most here are agreed outdoor activities are the best way forward but our leaders dont have the smarts to real promote the benefits.

Benny Cake

RGS wrote: »

Like that slogan.

Think most here are agreed outdoor activities are the best way forward but our leaders dont have the smarts to real promote the benefits.

Yeah. It struck a chord with me

prawnsambo

Benny Cake wrote: »

Watching some chicago cubs opening day baseball. Fans at the game all provided with T-Shirts with different MLB approved Slogans, one of which is "Get out, stay safe".... Wouldn't that be a nice departure froms the rubbish we have to deal with.

Well I'd say that might be the last one for a while

Chicago sees ‘quantum leap’ in COVID-19 cases

bustercherry

Ollieboy wrote: »

Yes I agree but nobody is saying we don’t need restrictions but we need tight level 3 and have them enforced correctly

Level 3 means everyone does their own amateur risk assessment and decides that they only need to comply to level 1.

We’ve already had the reality check after Christmas how quickly this can spread. It’s futile trying to predict numbers.

bustercherry

ForeRight wrote: »

My mates dad has his clubs cleaned and the bag, shoes and trolley all standing at his front door today.
Gonna be a long few weeks for him.

Mine was done in November and then end of Feb 😀

Pepsirebel

RGS wrote: »

Like that slogan.

Think most here are agreed outdoor activities are the best way forward but our leaders dont have the smarts to real promote the benefits.

Absolutely, however one thing this has shown up is our total lack of facilities & amenities in villages, towns & cities

Mantis Toboggan

Very high number of cases in France and they've gone back into a strict lockdown yet Simon Coveney doesn't want to add them to the travel quarantine list, so the infected French can fly into Dublin and go where they want yet I'm restricted to 5km from my house? Christ when's the election.

Wouldn't be surprised if the 26th gets scrapped and we're not back until May.

blue note

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Very high number of cases in France and they've gone back into a strict lockdown yet Simon Coveney doesn't want to add them to the travel quarantine list, so the infected French can fly into Dublin and go where they want yet I'm restricted to 5km from my house? Christ when's the election.

Wouldn't be surprised if the 26th gets scrapped and we're not back until May.

That's the fear for us if we open up too early, that we'll have to go back into strict lockdown too. I doubt France will be the only ones. We should learn from countries like France and take our time opening up.

Mantis Toboggan

blue note wrote: »

That's the fear for us if we open up too early, that we'll have to go back into strict lockdown too. I doubt France will be the only ones. We should learn from countries like France and take our time opening up.

Exactly, why we're allowing them into the country without quarantining is beyond stupid.

prawnsambo

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Exactly, why we're allowing them into the country without quarantining is beyond stupid.

We are generating 500-700 cases a day all by our lonesome. Not sure that quarantining a handful of French people who are being prevented from travelling except under very restrictive conditions by their own government is going to make any difference.