The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
innrain wrote: » On April 2019 when the "expansion" was announced there were around 4.6k EVs. Since then the fleet increased with 8.8k. Around 5.2k new EVs (40% of the EVs on the road) sold since the lockdown started. When these 5k cars hit the road is going to be as you said... what is the word for cars stampede?
Black_Knight wrote: » There might be some queuing still, but I don't think it'll be a disaster.
Kramer wrote: » But an apartment dwelling ID.4 owner, with a 77kWh battery, on his her their sole weekly charge, pulling under 50kW - it could be painful . I think it could revert to pre charging for charging levels of utilisation, for certain chargers. Thousands of large battery EVs added this year, but next to nothing added to the charging network.
whatawaster wrote: » Two weeks with an Ioniq and waiting for my home charger to be installed. Relying on the public network and it really is a shambles IMO. I live in Drogheda which is I believe the biggest town in Ireland. It had one Rapid charger. One of the spaces is taken up on almost a daily basis by a Range Rover Plug in Hybrid using the type 2 charger. They just leave it there all day. The “fast” chargers seem like a massive waste of time. It’s hard to see who they benefit.
the_amazing_raisin wrote: » It looks like VW have withdrawn any offers related to We Charge, membership costs full price now
Black_Knight wrote: » Finally someone experiencing what I've been rambling on about as a major issue with these new DC units with untethered 22kW. Range rover plugs in all day, no overstay fee because it's only 22kW, and blocks 1 bay all day, thus blocking either cars with left hand side ports or right hand side ports, depending on what bay he occupies. Not his fault, he's entitled to do so, but very much the shortcomings of those units. I'll suggest giving feedback about that unit on plugshare and the ESB app too.
AndyBoBandy wrote: » The best we could hope for would be for Ionity to pull out of Ireland, and someone like eCars or EasyGo take over the Ionity sites (and even the chargers).
Kramer wrote: » Thousands of large battery EVs added this year, but next to nothing added to the charging network.
Kramer wrote: » From the ID.4 thread. Maybe better in the Ionity thread or general charging thread, but pertinent here too so...... This is ridiculous now. NO provider is going to invest in charging infrastructure where Ionity are already in situ. Yet no one, not even VW owners, (founder?) members of Ionity, are being incentivised to use their network. It's like the Ionity in Cashel - few will use it in preference to the 60% cheaper eCars unit. To me it looks like Ionity just wanted to avail of €uropean taxpayer grants, get in & install the network, to block competition. Ionity is being seen as a last resort or only to be used when stuck - it's not good for anyone, especially not wider EV adoption. I think the network should have been provided centrally & then tenders offered to operate it with caps & targets agreed. By the time €urope take notice & act, it'll be too late & we'll have piecemeal chargers/providers strewn all over the place with no logic.
the_amazing_raisin wrote: » Personally I'd take Ionity over ECars any day, it's like sticking with 56k internet because broadband costs more. The quality of service of Ionity is miles ahead of anything ESB ever dreamed of If I wound up using Ionity a lot then I'd pay the subscription for discount charging prices, it pays off pretty well if you're using it on a regular basis Maybe when the ESB hub at J17 opens up I'll consider it, but to be frank the cheaper rates from ESB make them more likely to be busy. If anything I'd accuse ESB of being manipulating the market since they have the largest network on Ireland and set the price low to keep the competition out
Black_Knight wrote: » 20-80% in my id4 would take about an hour on the 50kW. That's about €20 for 50kWh including overstay.
Kramer wrote: » That's largely my point. Newer, bigger battery cars take longer to charge, on by modern standards, very slow & very antiquated chargers. 90%+ eCars/EasyGo DC chargers are single units & nowadays, just far too slow. Your 50kWh charge would be quicker by possibly 20 minutes on Ionity, but cost €40 :eek:. Unless stuck/in a hurry/travelling with family etc., would anyone pay €20 extra, to save just 20 minutes? Tesla have just 3 dedicated DC charging locations in Ireland (more coming soon!!!!), Ionity more, but finished their roll out, eCars are glacial & by today's standards, 1x 150kW (split into 2x 75kW) & 1x 50kW "hubs" are piss poor. We have thousands of new EVs on the roads & more & more to come, yet stasis in charging infrastructure. Remember - we have a green transport minister now too :pac:.
Black_Knight wrote: » For now on charge point it'd be €32. Not the worst I guess, but ecars doing it for much much cheaper on their 150kW units is a bit manipulative
Kramer wrote: » Remember - we have a green transport minister now too :pac:.
the_amazing_raisin wrote: » Good luck, he's busy with high priority items like the bees
Silent Running wrote: » In fairness, if we lose the bees we won't be worried about charging cars.
Black_Knight wrote: » My stats say, over the last 2 weeks: CHAdeMO has been occupied 45.8% of the time. CCS the other 54.2% of the time Though lockdown don't help.
Black_Knight wrote: » 245 of the newer 22kW AC units are now in place. 153 of the old units yet to be replaced, and 21 of those single socket AC units to be replaced too. A rough idea of what's been upgraded since the middle of January:AC updates to the new Evolve Smart T unit 153 remaining <Snip list>AC units upgraded to DC - 19 of the 50 delivered Ballymahon Road, Athlone, WestmeathNew FCP Kilmartin N6 Service Station, Dublin road, Athlone, Co.Westmeath, Ireland
Black_Knight wrote: » Got me thinking.... 20-80% in my id4 would take about an hour on the 50kW. That's about €20 for 50kWh including overstay. At the 150kW unit (I'm going to assume an average of 75kW). That's 40 minutes for 50kWh, and only €18.50. So the cheaper units may end up being more expensive if you overstay.
AndyBoBandy wrote: » its 2021 and there were 2,714 EV's sold in the first quarter of this year alone, and the best eCars can come up with is 3 cars charging simultaneously at any single location (as long as one of them is a Leaf). Incoherent rant over.
Black_Knight wrote: » An eye watering 4-8 cars can charge at once there. All roads lead to Monasterevin obviously.
AndyBoBandy wrote: » 8 cars.......... as long as 4 of them are Leaf's
Black_Knight wrote: » Could always be an outlander loadbalancing the sh!t outta one! Don't underestimate them
kanuseeme wrote: » Don't think its chademo only, there is a new crop of phev's from Mercedes have the option for rapid charging on CCS, with a phev your more likely to charge when the opportunity suits rather than every 20 km, for example at a service station stop for tea and a leak, I think its stupid to spend so much time charging and waiting on a car.
Mickeroo wrote: » With the price of public charging now is it not cheaper to only charge a phev at home and just use petrol when the battery is empty?
