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Spring 2021 General Discussion

daniel_t1409

I know it's early to start this thread but in fairness the winter thread was started in August so.....:P.

Last spring was one of the best ever - basically 2-3 months of sunshine and very little rain, resulting in a hosepipe ban. Followed by one of the dullest, wettest summers.

There is still plenty of winter left but I just want to start some early discussion on this spring, predictions, etc.

I would like a nice dry spring to give the ground a chance to dry out - it's been saturated since last June.

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Nqp15hhu

AuntySnow wrote: »

I'd be quite happy to see Belfast or Antrim reach those kind of levels (7ish celcius)as there would be some hope of similar down here
Basically not a severe cold spell

I think the maxima will be revised. If the GFS is to be believed temps will struggle to exceed 2c or 3c, with freezing levels of <300 metres during the day!

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Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Belfast is usually one of the milder places in NI in a NW or N flow, as showers don't usually make it to that area.

GFS says 2c for here, Met office and others say 4/5c max. Based on what we saw on Sunday, I would imagine temps will drop substantially in any snow showers as the freezing level above the PBL will be very low.

I'd be quite happy to see Belfast or Antrim reach those kind of levels (7ish celcius)as there would be some hope of similar down here
Basically not a severe cold spell

Nqp15hhu

Looking at the charts it's almost as if the polar vortex has relocated from eastern North America to the Mid Atlantic, cold air is gone from North America in this run, or pushed far north.

Oneiric 3

Rikand wrote: »

Cloud formations in the sky right now. Roughly east/south east of athlone if anyone is in the vicinity to look. They look like really thick contrails running in a north/south direction which is a direction planes dont fly in this neck of the wood and they are illuminated against a clear sky. Cant be nocilucent clouds as they are in the wrong part of the sky from where I normally see noctilucents.

Sky is other wise completely clear apart from these clouds. Maybe they are just normal thin clouds being illuminated by the rising moon ?

Clear here (NE Galway) until after sunset then a broad bank very low cloud, bordering on fog, rolled in. Don't know what is causing the roll effect near you but must the front edge of that same cloud bank.

Oneiric 3

A look back at the 850 temp for April 1st 1917 chart when the biggest snow storm of the 20th century hit.

There must have been a serious trough imbedded in that particular flow.

https://www.met.ie/cms/assets/uploads/2017/08/HeavySnows1917.pdf

Rikand

Cloud formations in the sky right now. Roughly east/south east of athlone if anyone is in the vicinity to look. They look like really thick contrails running in a north/south direction which is a direction planes dont fly in this neck of the wood and they are illuminated against a clear sky. Cant be nocilucent clouds as they are in the wrong part of the sky from where I normally see noctilucents.

Sky is other wise completely clear apart from these clouds. Maybe they are just normal thin clouds being illuminated by the rising moon ?

Nqp15hhu

AuntySnow wrote: »

Yes back to the weather
I see Cecilia Daly on BBC NI weather a few minutes ago has a max temp in Belfast of 7c on monday
That wouldnt be too cold
I hope she's right!

Belfast is usually one of the milder places in NI in a NW or N flow, as showers don't usually make it to that area.

GFS says 2c for here, Met office and others say 4/5c max. Based on what we saw on Sunday, I would imagine temps will drop substantially in any snow showers as the freezing level above the PBL will be very low.

Meteorite58

As good as it gets here in Kerry today. Got up to 17.2C at my site and currently 7.2C and calm from around the early afternoon and it has been practically cloud free since. I could see the difference in the growth since early this morning in the hedgerows and in my garden when I came home this evening, lovely green hue appearing now in the trees.
Timing not great with the upcoming cold spell and the new leaves will no doubt get scorched but out here near the coast if it is not the cold it is salty gales in off the Atlantic but the trees are normally resilient and have seen them recover a battering in time.

Looks cooler and cloudy for here tomorrow and damp but good warm temps again on Thurs and bit lower Fri and Sat, looking like a good dry spell up till later Sunday. Doing tons of jobs outside lately and looking like a great opportunity for the rest of the week especially with the extra hour in the evenings, was putting down a few blocks after 20.00 tonight with my wife holding the torch near 21.00 so I could point the last few !

NASA EOSDIS today.

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Oneiric 3

AuntySnow wrote: »

Yes back to the weather
I see Cecilia Daly on BBC NI weather a few minutes ago has a max temp in Belfast of 7c on monday
That wouldnt be too cold
I hope she's right!

Max temps would be around that alright but consider that dewpoints will be low and winds are likely to be strong so the 'feels like' temperature will be brutishly lower, especially in exposed northern regions. If this flow was slacker then we would have better opportunity for some big inland convection which would be (to me at least) a more interesting talking point.

lolie

km79 wrote: »

What the hell is going on ?

Great day in the West. Washed both the cars . Not that they will be going anywhere but they look nice now

Ditto here in Cavan. It was a bit hazy early on but turned out to be a glorious afternoon and evening.
I'll not begrudge anyone their snow but seeing the countryside alive with the good weather i wont shed a tear if it doesn't materialise.

Elmer Blooker

Mimon wrote: »

15- 18 degrees all the way to May with low to mid 20's after that until the end of September please.

That doesn't happen in Ireland, a six month summer has never happened and isn't going to happen.
Severe frost in early April is quite common, today we are only ten days beyond the equinox so nights are still relatively long. A severe frost in late April is rare and can be very damaging to plants and vegetation but nature can easily recover from an early April severe frost.

Oneiric 3

Wouldn't care a jot if this forecast northerly vanished in the next few runs - in fact I actually hope it does. It's just too little too late. Time for some spring warmth to get things growing. All this northerly will do is keep the non-descript chill of the winter just gone going for longer, and who in their right mind would want that?

JCX BXC

Fabulous day in West Clare, wall to wall sunshine all day long. High of 16.5°c and with a nice breeze, however I found myself a nice sheltered spot and actually got a touch of sunburn.

Since sunset a seafog has set in, currently 8.9°c.

pad199207

Fabulous to look at, but my god not needed.

Mimon

AuntySnow wrote: »

Max here in Arklow of just 12c
Currently 8.5c
Hazy sunshine all day from late morning
Airflow from the Sea throughout,explaining the struggling temp

One advantage of being 60km from the coast now is never get that easterly sea influence in spring and early summer.

Dublin used to remind me of a mini San Francisco with that cold sea moderation in spring/early summer.

Mimon

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

No thanks praying it comes... one last blast of winter thanks.

I got a good dose of sun working in the garden all evening. Not burned but need some aftersun all the same. No thanks for any mucky sleet mix now.

15- 18 degrees all the way to May with low to mid 20's after that until the end of September please.

Will take the occasional bit of rain to keep the farmers happy and keep everything green!

Nqp15hhu

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Me too, In our tedious climate I'd gladly take something that has the potential to be historic, 'a 1917'

We do really well here with N’ly flows so I am hoping that the -10/-11 850hPa’ s will encourage a lot of instability and heavy, frequent snow showers.

I am quite looking forward to the cold front too, looks to be a North American style one.

OldRio

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Yah

I have a couple of hundred seedlings and small plants in the poly tunnel. They are all on a hot bed but if it gets very cold, catastrophe.

DOCARCH

AuntySnow wrote: »

Max here in Arklow of just 12c
Airflow from the Sea throughout,explaining the struggling temp

Was in Greystones today and there was a real nip despite the sunshine!

In Dublin 16, high of 16.9c today. 13.1c atm.

[Deleted User]

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

17.8 at Mt. Dillon today, according to Joanna

Max here in Arklow of just 12c
Currently 8.5c
Hazy sunshine all day from late morning
Airflow from the Sea throughout,explaining the struggling temp

Tyrone212

Cloudy all day. Thinned a bit in the last couple of hours. High of 15c. Rain already in to Donegal and Mayo.

Gaoth Laidir

17.8 at Mt. Dillon today, according to Joanna

Elmer Blooker

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

No thanks praying it comes... one last blast of winter thanks.

Me too, In our tedious climate I'd gladly take something that has the potential to be historic, 'a 1917'

Nqp15hhu

OldRio wrote: »

Nah.

Yah

appledrop

9 weather stations at 16 or 17 degrees at 6pm all around the country according to Met Eireann.

What more could you ask for on a March evening!

OldRio

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

No thanks praying it comes... one last blast of winter thanks.

Nah.

Nqp15hhu

No thanks praying it comes... one last blast of winter thanks.

pad199207

Glorious mild evening. Why does that cold have to come after the weekend! Praying it gets watered down or misses us altogether

OldRio

Cloudy and the Sun popped out about 4.30. At least it was dry. Leitrim

appledrop

17 degrees at Casement, Mullingar and Mt. Dillion at the moment.

There hasn't been a cloud in sky all day here in Dublin.

It's a summer day just in March rather than June!