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NCT and aircon not working

[Deleted User]

Anyone know if my car would fail the NCT if the motor on my Aircon is not working. Everything works fine, it's just there is no air blowing through. Have it booked into Main Dealer on April 7th. 2 local garages said they would not be able to fix it.
It's a 2011 Renault Fluence and it's the first thing that has failed since I bought it 10 years ago.
Tomorrow is 90 days before my NCT test date and there are slots available in Naas for Thursday 1st April. Would like get it done.

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Darc19

Could be as simple as replacing a fuse.

But air-conditioning doesn't come under NCT testing

vandriver

A new blower motor is a huge job.The whole dashboard has to come out.

[Deleted User]

vandriver wrote: »

A new blower motor is a huge job.The whole dashboard has to come out.

I think that's why the 2 other garages wouldn't do it.

vandriver

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think that's why the 2 other garages wouldn't do it.

If you have no air at all,it's dangerous as the windows fog up.

cruizer101

Darc19 wrote: »

Could be as simple as replacing a fuse.

But air-conditioning doesn't come under NCT testing

Not quite true, demisting is covered by the nct which means the blower has to be working for front window.

[Deleted User]

cruizer101 wrote: »

Not quite true, demisting is covered by the nct which means the blower has to be working for front window.

Ok, best to leave the NCT til Renault have taken a look. There is still almost 3 months to get Aircon fixed and NCT booked. I am just impatient.

Dilbert75

Does it work on full speed or not at all?

[Deleted User]

No problem with NCT ,they doesn't need your Aircon checked.You could even have your service light on they doesnt care about it.

pippip

Fails from NCT manual -

Demisting system
(h). Demisting/ventilation system (fan) inoperative.
(i). Demisting/ventilation system not directing towards windscreen.

[Deleted User]

pippip wrote: »

Fails from NCT manual -

Demisting system
(h). Demisting/ventilation system (fan) inoperative.
(i). Demisting/ventilation system not directing towards windscreen.

This has nothing to do with air-conditioning.

pippip

Deleted User wrote: »

This has nothing to do with air-conditioning.

If you read the ops post they stated "no air blowing through".

Yes Aircon unit isn't a fail but the rest of the system is.

MarkR

If no air is blowing through, then IF they actually tested that, it would fail. Do they though?

vandriver

MarkR wrote: »

If no air is blowing through, then IF they actually tested that, it would fail. Do they though?

A MUCH greater concern is getting in the car, slightly wet and all the windows fogging up completely,rendering the driver effectively blind.

cruizer101

Depends you could be lucky you might not be.
If you were looking at getting it fixed anyway you may aswell wait until fixed to do the nct.
If it was old car and you wern't bothered I'd definitely chance testing it as you may well get away with it.

Also to add, I'm nearly sure I remember a thread on here about someone who failed as their ac wasn't working, even though fan still blowing.
Reason being when a car has it aircon is part of the demisting system so if the aircon isn't working the demisting system technically isn't properly working.
I tried having a quick search but can't find anything so can't be sure about it, very fussy tester is it was the case.

Ciano35

Vents have to be turned off completely for covid reasons so they might not test it?

cml387

Cars had efficient demisting long before aircon was standard. Switch on the heat and the blower and bobs your uncle.

naughtysmurf

vandriver wrote: »

A new blower motor is a huge job.The whole dashboard has to come out.

Deleted User wrote: »

Have it booked into Main Dealer on April 7th. 2 local garages said they would not be able to fix it.
It's a 2011 Renault Fluence and it's the first thing that has failed since I bought it 10 years ago.

Yep, it’s a big job for sure because of where the blower is located, we also had an 11 Fluence with the same issue a couple of years ago, also the only thing that ever failed, cost 750.00 but we got away with murder with that price for a few reasons, I’d be bracing myself for the dealers price if I were you.

vandriver

naughtysmurf wrote: »

Yep, it’s a big job for sure because of where the blower is located, we also had an 11 Fluence with the same issue a couple of years ago, also the only thing that ever failed, cost 750.00 but we got away with murder with that price for a few reasons, I’d be bracing myself for the dealers price if I were you.

Are we getting near scrap the car territory?

naughtysmurf

vandriver wrote: »

Are we getting near scrap the car territory?

Probably not too far off, car worth probably less than 3k, at a complete guess, I’d expect dealer price to be double what we paid a few years ago so you could end up paying up to or nearly 2/3 the value of the car to fix, all depends, if your planning on driving it for another few years maybe not, we found ours solid & reliable for ten years, hadn’t planned to change until next year but the mrs wrote it off, cost to repair was more than the car value

[Deleted User]

There is no manual system in the Fluence. It's all through the Aircon. When I put the Aircon on full, the fan is not blowing air, however there is just enough air coming through the vents to the windscreen to keep it from fogging up.
If it were to cost €1 to fix, it would still be worth it as the car has not got much mileage and hasn't cost me anything extra since I bought it other than normal servicing costs.
I'll keep it til Diesel becomes uneconomical to run.

Either the above or this is the start of the car falling apart in which case, it's off to the scrap heap!!!

naughtysmurf

Let us know the dealer fix price when you get it, just out of interest

artanevilla

I'd just put it through anyway and see what they say, that's the only definite answer you'll get.

LollipopJimmy

I'd be putting it through the NCT before spending on a big job like this, there could be other expensive issues lurking and you'll end up committed to the car after spending a fortune fixing the blower.

Think having to replace, brakes parts, suspension components etc on top of the blower.

[Deleted User]

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

I'd be putting it through the NCT before spending on a big job like this, there could be other expensive issues lurking and you'll end up committed to the car after spending a fortune fixing the blower.

Think having to replace, brakes parts, suspension components etc on top of the blower.

I am pretty anal about keeping my car maintained.. The car is serviced according to schedule recommended by Renault. Last service would have been in December. It's never failed an NCT yet. No issues identified at last Service apart from normal wear like the brakes etc.

[Deleted User]

naughtysmurf wrote: »

Let us know the dealer fix price when you get it, just out of interest

I will. Hopefully as someone mentioned above, they replace a fuse and everything works again. With my luck, it's not even a remote possibility.

vandriver

In fairness,they are a pretty reliable car.(400k km on my taxi)

deisechap09

Same issue on a 2010 megane and passed the NCT in September without a word of it.

It's a bit of a nightmare of an issue in the winter with windscreen fogging up etc, but plenty of air and less wet in Summer makes it easy to get by for next few months.

Likewise above, would be great to find out the cost as I am inbetween repair and scrap myself.

Del2005

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is no manual system in the Fluence. It's all through the Aircon. When I put the Aircon on full, the fan is not blowing air, however there is just enough air coming through the vents to the windscreen to keep it from fogging up.
If it were to cost €1 to fix, it would still be worth it as the car has not got much mileage and hasn't cost me anything extra since I bought it other than normal servicing costs.
I'll keep it til Diesel becomes uneconomical to run.

Either the above or this is the start of the car falling apart in which case, it's off to the scrap heap!!!

Stick the car in for the NCT if you can get a date, I checked for my Mother and no tests till May or June. If it fails it will be a visual retest and you will need to get it fixed anyway.

barneygumble99

Even without replacing the blower motor on a fluence, replacing the pollen filter itself is an absolute cnut

vandriver

barneygumble99 wrote: »

Even without replacing the blower motor on a fluence, replacing the pollen filter itself is an absolute cnut

I think mine needs doing,where is it?