ExMachina1000 wrote: » Lucan seems to be a highly diverse area. I drove through the area during the week around the same time the schools were on lunch. Very diverse. Is it a problem? I don't know I don't live there. Would I want to live there? No I would not.
bubblypop wrote: » By diverse do you mean you saw lots of people with a different colour skin then yourself? Why wouldn't you want to live in lucan? What is wrong with it?
TomTomTim wrote: » On the topic of not reporting things that are inconvenient. I can't seem to find the story about the Islamic protests in the UK in most places, it's not on the Journal or RTE's website from what I can see. How they can justify stuff like this is beyond me. I hate to repeat myself, but if was Christians doing similar, it would be prime time news all week.
Wibbs wrote: » So after hundreds of pages the positives for multiculturalism still remain the same at some nebulous "culture" reference and food? The political philosophy always boils down to exoticism of the right kind and charity. In before "the Irish were immigrants too" reference.
Mike Murdock wrote: » Basically, yes. It seems to boil down to "Where can I order "exotic" food tonight because I am too lazy to cook my Spag Bol. And I can go into work/talk to friends and family and wax lyrical about this really cool "exotic" food I ate."
RobbieTheRobber wrote: » If you can find not a single positive thing apart from kebab shops from all the immigration even in the last 20 years to Ireland that says more about you than anything else. I mean the over 30% of doctors who are foreign born and trained who work in our health system obviously bring no benefit. Nor the foreign born and trained nurses. Not a single one of them brings any positive benefit to Ireland. Who needs healthcare, certainly not a country in the middle of a pandemic.
Cordell wrote: » The doctors and other highly skilled migrants are not a benefit of multiculturalism. They are skilled in fields like science and medicine which are part of the western culture. Acupuncture will be an example of a positive of multiculturalism, if only acupuncture would be a real science and not a scam. So yeah, good luck finding the benefits of multiculturalism.
Deleted User wrote: » That's the most dangerous thing about the media these days. It's not outright lies. It's the lies by omission, the careful wording of articles/headlines. Designed to drive certain narratives (Trump/Brexit = "bad", diversity/feminism = "good") etc.
Cordell wrote: » Maybe I wasn't clear enough: they do count as a benefit of immigration, not multiculturalism. Their skill and education are not multicultural, we want them schooled in western medicine, not that eastern acupuncture and chakra alignment crap.
RobbieTheRobber wrote: » Foreign born and educated doctors with a high percentage coming from Asia and the middle east don't count towards the positive benefits of multiculturalism?
Tea drinker wrote: » Well it's not just reportage, Hollywood / Netflix frequently show white men as old unviable, black men as young and virile. It's just a common PC theme in the shows.
Cordell wrote: » No, I think I was quite clear, it's a benefit of immigration, not multiculturalism.
RobbieTheRobber wrote: » Are we still talking about immigrants who make up over 30% of our doctors coming from many different cultures to Ireland to live and work in our health service.
Strumms wrote: » We had a shortage of doctors.. We advertised for more.. Doctors came from Asia and beyond, great, they came to fill a skills shortage... That’s a two way win for our citizens and those doctors... they are in receipt of better pay, better quality of life, better prospects etc. we are in receipt of more doctors, better healthcare ie. shorter waiting lists etc and their experience and expertise... Those doctors both earn good money and make contributions..back.. they are contributing to society, it’s aims and overall wellbeing.. in addition to them filling a skills shortage...they pay tax on what they earn, they contribute, they buy their own food, pay their own rent / mortgages... they ‘contribute’ and put back in to the running and wellbeing of the state and their fellow citizens... People coming here to attain a life based on simply and solely attaining financial benefits, property and whatever other life enhancing handouts... while putting zilch back..world of difference.
Strumms wrote: » We had a shortage of doctors.. We advertised for more.. Doctors came from Asia and beyond, great, they came to fill a skills shortage... That’s a two way win for our citizens and those doctors... they are in receipt of better pay, better quality of life, better prospects etc. we are in receipt of more doctors, better healthcare ie. shorter waiting lists etc and their experience and expertise... Those doctors both earn good money and make contributions..back.. they are contributing to society, it’s aims and overall wellbeing.. in addition to them filling a skills shortage...they pay tax on what they earn, they contribute, they buy their own food, pay their own rent / mortgages... they ‘contribute’ and put back in to the running and wellbeing of the state and their fellow citizens... People coming here to attain a life based on simply and solely attaining financial benefits, property and whatever other life enhancing handouts... while putting zilch back..world of difference. That’s a benefit to nobody. Wanna come here ? Contribute... not prepared to ? Not welcome or shouldn’t be.
TomTomTim wrote: » I don't think anyone here has ever even argued against skilled immigration, most are for it. So we're once again arguing against a position that none of us hold.
RobbieTheRobber wrote: » So are skilled immigrants positive multiculturalism then?
TomTomTim wrote: » I think your argument would be more accurate if you said "multiracialism". Skilled immigrants are usually not the types to force their cultural ways on us, so the cultural element isn't that relevant. If your whole arguments was one of multiracialism and not multiculturalism then your whole position would be sounder, as multiracialism has a higher chance of success if we all agree to live by shared values. So yes skilled immigrants are a positive in a multiracial society.
Equality of political representation and social acceptance in a society made up of various races.
KevRossi wrote: » SF have historically been very pro-immigration and pro asylum seekers. In fact their policies have usually been the more radical of all parties.
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