Deleted User wrote: » I'm guessing they will be forced to bring in a third party who will take the Galway - Dublin route. No way they will be allowed to keep that to themselves. The only reason that route has such good service is the competition
Mayo_fan wrote: » @OP. Are you referring to the article in the reputable newspaper link below? your post reads like it’s a secret but pretty clear from the article belowhttps://www.businesspost.ie/companies/citylink-bids-for-gobus-on-behalf-of-transport-giant-db2c426e Big news and to be honest sad to read. Gobus are a great service orientated company, it was them who forced citylink to up their game on the Dublin to Galway route (toilets, WiFi, coach standards). Not to mention they are locally owned in Galway by a very decent family.
Just on the discussion of Dublin coach picking up any pieces, I don’t see this happening, their cash cow quick park is I longer theirs (see below which explains the rocks blocking the entrance, assume landlord did this) and they look to be in real trouble cash wise.https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/developer-gerry-gannon-entitled-to-2-18m-airport-car-park-rent-1.4467400
Grandad99 wrote: » A friend works for Aircoach, she tells me they have been given a Dublin - Galway licence. Service expected to start in July.
belfast stephen wrote: » would Aircoach have the fleet to start a Galway service or would they need extra services and i assume they would open a base in Galway
devnull wrote: » Therefore it is hard to understand how Aircoach would have already been granted a license because it would go against all precedent to issue a third express license on that corridor and GoBus or CityLink are not going to sell a license before the takeover has gone through and if they had already sold one of them, they wouldn't still be operating as they'd no longer have a license to do so. What I have heard is there may have been discussions about another operator (name was not mentioned) taking over one of the licenses should the takeover be rubber stamped and this measure be required to push it through. The two companies involved in this takeover/merger may have proactively suggested this as a remedy as they knew it would be a problem for the CCPC and may already have a buyer lined up.
Jamie2k9 wrote: » Is there a particular reason why the NTA would prefer 2 private operators on the route. I don't buy the whole competition argument on a city pair like this. Just look at BE scrapping most express services.
bk wrote: » Another possibility is that GoBus sold that two licenses separately. The Galway to Aircoach and the Cork one to Citylink. Maybe Aircoach were actually the first movers here? Maybe they bought the Galway license and Citylink responded by buying GoBus to get the remaining Cork license to fight back?
devnull wrote: » Evobus and Coach Ltd (GoBus) are still the legal owners of both the Dublin to Galway and Dublin to Cork licenses. They continue to operate services under their own name and under the previously awarded licenses. No licenses have changed hands from what I understand. Realistically no licenses are going to change hands until the outcome of the CCPC investigation is concluded. There might well be potential deals that have been lined up to satisfy the CCPC, but these are not going to formally go through until the takeover itself goes through and it hasn't yet.
Bumblebee2020 wrote: » Aircoachs new licence has nothing to do with take overs or too many operators on the route, they applied a few months ago for a new route licences. They have watched Dualway’s Airport hopper Maynooth route and watched what that took in. The Galway route will have stops in Maynooth and Athlone with Dublin Airport/Galway as start finish point. They are simply taking the time to do new licences as they hadn’t the time to do it before and while other companies are still off the road they willl try get a customer base in these areas along the way. Good thinking! I do think we will see new routes popping up now because this is the time for operators to apply for them, even if they are not used operators will apply for them and put the ground work in now.
devnull wrote: » Part of that involves ensuring that there are not too many operators on a route. The NTA has been consistent in applying two operators per corridor (Express and Multistop are considered separate) and I've seen nothing to suggest that their opinion in that regard has changed whatsoever and no license was issued up to 21st February as publicly published NTA documents prove this.
bk wrote: » IHaving said this, I'm surprised that Aircoach would start a service like this to Galway where there is so much competition already, rather then say Limerick which could do with more options.Though perhaps Athlone and Maynooth are the real draw here for Aircoach. Of course all just speculation on my part.
devnull wrote: » No operator has the ability to just decide to do new licenses when they feel like it and get approval just like that because it has to go through an approval process with the National Transport Authority and whether a license is granted depends on if the application is acceptable under the NTA's published guidelines. This takes far more than a few weeks normally. Part of that involves ensuring that there are not too many operators on a route. The NTA has been consistent in applying two operators per corridor (Express and Multistop are considered separate) and I've seen nothing to suggest that their opinion in that regard has changed whatsoever and no license was issued up to 21st February as publicly published NTA documents prove this. Aircoach by their own admission have had a lot of downtime in the last year, the MD herself said in the press recently that they've been using the time to revamp their website, social media and booking engine among other things, so I simply don't buy the idea that they've only just got around to it. Even pre-pandemic Dervla McKay was saying they were actively looking at new routes. Even if they have a license, the idea that they'll launch now to jump start anyone who isn't running is rather fanciful. The areas that you mention already have GoBus, Citylink (x2) and Bus Eireann serving them and whilst Airport Hopper isn't operating, that service ran a mini coach every hour that wasn't exactly heaving on a regular basis and only served people going to the airport, where demand is almost zero right now. Going into that corridor would be a tough battle at the best of times. Going into it when the demand has been slaughtered by COVID just seems illogical.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Limerick to Dublin has JJ Kavanagh, Dublin Coach and CityLink. And not so many tourists.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Personally I think a bus from Galway stopping in Maynooth could be handy, it's a difficult spot to get to unless you want to pay train fares.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » FWIW, Aircoach now have a Galway page on their website, with a Book Tickets link at the bottom. No listed routes (yet).https://www.aircoach.ie/galway