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Law Firm Milkrounds 20/21

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Which firms aren't doing it this year?

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Diamond_Hands

Regardless, even if the proposal was successful, it doesn't come into fruition until 31 December 2025. So if you've started a training contract on or before 2023 it's not applicable to you.

livelaughlaw

Lallers96 wrote: »

God I don't know what bubble ye live in where 500+ points isn't immensely impressive

It’s really just not though for law like in TCD it’s 540ish to get in so straight away that’s nearly 200 people with those points and it’s similar in most unis I think?? Like contextualised it’s just not and I don’t get why they care about points (and I’m someone who got over 500 too) when you have so much more relevant and interesting experience to discuss instead?

livelaughlaw

NewFe1 wrote: »

You'd be surprised. I was told by a partner to emphasize the fact that I'm fluent in Irish. It can be really helpful when the client wants to communicate through Irish, however rare that may be.

Me too! I had 3 interviews with top 3 firms and they each were impressed when I told them irish was my first language and I delved into my more advanced experience with it, we even spoke about Irish mythology at Matheson?? Random but loved it

livelaughlaw

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

Think being fluent in French or another European language will be more helpful than Irish if you're practicing at a Dublin commercial firm.

This isn’t necessarily true, I speak 5 languages and AC & Matheson only drew attention to the fact I mentioned Irish

Diamond_Hands

livelaughlaw wrote: »

This isn’t necessarily true, I speak 5 languages and AC & Matheson only drew attention to the fact I mentioned Irish

The reason why the partners were so interested is because most of us can't put 2 sentences of Irish together if our lives depended on it.

livelaughlaw

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

The reason why the partners were so interested is because most of us can't put 2 sentences of Irish together if our lives depended on it.

hahaha so fair!

rickmatt

Anyone apply to Mulhall and Co.?

roofus22

Has anybody heard from the Fieldfisher interview? I was told end of the month but just in case anyone has heard!

Lallers96

Anybody else find the recent Law Society "seminar" on how to find a TC absolutely useless?

I mean, I've sat here the night before the FE1s start up again watching the 4 videos of people advising you on how they got their TC and how you can do the same and I've had to laugh at the whole thing.

Fair play to them all they've built stellar CVs and have got great positions and earned them, and they also did a great job recording a video in their homes which can't have been easy. So please don't take this the wrong way when I say I had to laugh, because I wasn't laughing at them - rather how the Law Society thought it was in any ways helpful to have 4 cookie cutter candidates who all had:

- Prior legal experience (1 internship was apparently not enough) with a top 10 Irish firm.
- International legal experience.
- Stellar grades with a masters at minimum, one woman had a doctorate.
- A vast amount of extra curricular activities that would make Ghandi blush.

I mean come on. Is that really the bar to getting ANY TC. Fair enough I completely and utterly understand that the Dublin firms and other "top 10 firms" would want the absolute best candidates but there are more than just those firms and they are not for everyone?

The legal sector has to be the only job sector where you are left utterly alone in this post graduate job hunting experience. I never had the chance to get any placement as part of my degree as all my friends did in other sectors, and the only help your university will give you is advise you to do a masters with them.

I would have thought this comprehensive seminar on how to get a TC would have at least attempted to cater to the rest of us who do not want to work in these larger firms, or will not due to below average grades, or lack of legal experience etc. It turned out to just be 4 absolutely perfect candidates telling me things I already know. No offence intended towards them but not much of it was useful as these people really did have the perfect CVs for top firms and would have sleepwalked into any medium to small firm should they have wished. The whole thing just seemed a bit degrading and condescending when it was the top 1% advising the rest how to succeed...rant over and I apologise if I've come across annoying.

livelaughlaw

Anyone get their AC offer letter yet?

LawBoy2018

Lallers96 wrote: »

Anybody else find the recent Law Society "seminar" on how to find a TC absolutely useless?

I mean, I've sat here the night before the FE1s start up again watching the 4 videos of people advising you on how they got their TC and how you can do the same and I've had to laugh at the whole thing.

Fair play to them all they've built stellar CVs and have got great positions and earned them, and they also did a great job recording a video in their homes which can't have been easy. So please don't take this the wrong way when I say I had to laugh, because I wasn't laughing at them - rather how the Law Society thought it was in any ways helpful to have 4 cookie cutter candidates who all had:

- Prior legal experience (1 internship was apparently not enough) with a top 10 Irish firm.
- International legal experience.
- Stellar grades with a masters at minimum, one woman had a doctorate.
- A vast amount of extra curricular activities that would make Ghandi blush.

I mean come on. Is that really the bar to getting ANY TC. Fair enough I completely and utterly understand that the Dublin firms and other "top 10 firms" would want the absolute best candidates but there are more than just those firms and they are not for everyone?

The legal sector has to be the only job sector where you are left utterly alone in this post graduate job hunting experience. I never had the chance to get any placement as part of my degree as all my friends did in other sectors, and the only help your university will give you is advise you to do a masters with them.

I would have thought this comprehensive seminar on how to get a TC would have at least attempted to cater to the rest of us who do not want to work in these larger firms, or will not due to below average grades, or lack of legal experience etc. It turned out to just be 4 absolutely perfect candidates telling me things I already know. No offence intended towards them but not much of it was useful as these people really did have the perfect CVs for top firms and would have sleepwalked into any medium to small firm should they have wished. The whole thing just seemed a bit degrading and condescending when it was the top 1% advising the rest how to succeed...rant over and I apologise if I've come across annoying.

I started off by taking an unpaid internship in a small solicitor's office back in 2017. I called every single solicitor's office within a 30 mile radius from my house and heard back from maybe 2/40. I applied for the milkrounds/summer internships every year, but never got even a whiff of an interview.

Persistence is key. You need to keep going until eventually you strike gold.

My grades/LC points were well below average but I did a master's and specialised and now I have a traineeship in a top 5 firm.

Diamond_Hands

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

I started off by taking an unpaid internship in a small solicitor's office back in 2017. I called every single solicitor's office within a 30 mile radius from my house and heard back from maybe 2/40. I applied for the milkrounds/summer internships every year, but never got even a whiff of an interview.

Persistence is key. You need to keep going until eventually you strike gold.

My grades/LC points were well below average but I did a master's and specialised and now I have a traineeship in a top 5 firm.

What masters programme did you do, out of curiosity?

LawBoy2018

Diamond_Hands wrote: »

What masters programme did you do, out of curiosity?

I did the LLM in Trinity (International and European Business Law)! Would highly recommend.

Law1234

Has anyone heard from Dechert regarding the Summer Internship?

biglawhead420

Law1234 wrote: »

Has anyone heard from Dechert regarding the Summer Internship?

They are notoriously slow, but I would imagine at this stage its not looking too good.

[Deleted User]

Does anyone have any advice for internship interviews with mid-size mainly commercial firms? (Saying this as I don’t think there’s a group element a la bigger firms) - will it likely be all about selling myself and my experience or is it likely that I will need some legal commercial/knowledge too?

rightytighty

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Does anyone have any advice for internship interviews with mid-size mainly commercial firms? (Saying this as I don’t think there’s a group element a la bigger firms) - will it likely be all about selling myself and my experience or is it likely that I will need some legal commercial/knowledge too?

I’ve interviewed with several before and they’ve been entirely personal in my experience. A good chance to bring in legal/commercial knowledge though is to identify an area the firm/your interviewer practices in. Identify something ongoing in it and come up with a question.

jus_me

Anything at all from Lavelle partners ?

SKLaw

jus_me wrote: »

Anything at all from Lavelle partners ?

Haven’t heard. I’ve emailed them as well last week just following up and nothing from them

Lallers96

Jesus it feels like well over 3 weeks ago I applied to them, and Maxwell Mullany

SKLaw

Lallers96 wrote: »

Jesus it feels like well over 3 weeks ago I applied to them, and Maxwell Mullany

It’s definitely been that long. The ad I think was up 22 February because I remember tidying up my cover letter when I saw that ad up on the LS website. Nothing heard from both firms

Lawstudent345

Anyone hear from Leman or Hayes Solicitors?

FE1_2020_

Has anyone heard from DAC Beachcroft ? Looking at my application and the expiry date has now been amended on their system from 30th April 2021 to the 30th August 2021 and still says "in review". I have checked with another person and his says the same too, curious to know if its the same for anyone on here ?

lawgrad15

FE1_2020_ wrote: »

Has anyone heard from DAC Beachcroft ? Looking at my application and the expiry date has now been amended on their system from 30th April 2021 to the 30th August 2021 and still says "in review". I have checked with another person and his says the same too, curious to know if its the same for anyone on here ?

Mine is the same actually.

FE1_2020_

lawgrad15 wrote: »

Mine is the same actually.

I see, thanks for confirming. I suspect its just a system update then, find it hard to believe were still in the mix since haven't heard anything from them since last November.

lnmbk

Rejections from Reddy Charlton LLP out - appears that they are only taking on two interns this time.

LawStudent125

Are Walkers interviews out?

Fe1forthefun

LawStudent125 wrote: »

Are Walkers interviews out?

Yep!

LawStudent125

Ah, that's my chances with them gone then I assume. How long have they been out to your knowledge?

Lallers96

Has anybody heard from:

Lavelle Partners
Mullany Walsh Maxwell LLP

I just had a look back at my emails and I applied for both on the 24th of February so it's been over a month and not one person has heard word at all here which I find so odd.