blanch152 wrote: » Got lost in Belfast last summer when a road that was open during the day was closed in the evening, not something you see down here.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Think he's mixing it up with some zombie film. Fermanagh can be like that. On a serious note, southern Irish people are corn fed on the bandit country/lawless clichés of lazy journalists they think if they spoof that they'll get away with it. The comment about investing and peacewalls was suspect as well. Somebody who doesn't know the place they think they are experts on.
jh79 wrote: » Depends on whether the Good Republicans and Unionist see an opportunity to extort all around them. Look at what is happening with the likes of Quinn. Doubt you'll see much investment in the border regions never mind the North
wicklowstevo wrote: » said with all the conviction of a bar stool republican shouting up the ra knowing full well that he wont have to contribute a cent as ever
Fionn1952 wrote: » Two spots in the town you might've found painted kerbs.....neither a spot someone just dropping up is likely to come across. Both are housing estates outside the actual town that you wouldn't even travel through if you had any sort of normal reason to visit the town (or even travelling through the town). Claims to have seen painted kerbs of any sort, 'between the bridges' in the actual townland itself I have no qualms calling out as an outright lie, let alone the absolute nonsense about lads walking about missing limbs.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Where are there kerbs painted in Enniskillen? I have been in Enniskillen almst every week of my life, don't ever remember seeing painted kerbs...what part where you in? I don't know of any connections to the IRA in the Quinn debacle.
Fionn1952 wrote: » ....I think not. If you're going to spoof, you could've picked a better spot. I might have an idea or two about Enniskillen in '95.
jh79 wrote: » Only up North a handful of times. Enniskillen in around 95 was an eye opener. Painted kerbs and lads on crutches with missing limbs. Did have an interview with Almac once. Didn't get it but i honestly couldn't say if i would of taken the job. I felt uneasy while having a look around. Francie, with the Quinn thing, this handful of people are any linked to the IRA? Just curious, I don't think SF are involved. They can't control every former member.
jh79 wrote: » Only up North a handful of times. Enniskillen in around 95 was an eye opener. Painted kerbs and lads on crutches with missing limbs.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Two of my family have second homes in Spain and Portugal...far from unusual these days.
jh79 wrote: » Are they on the average induatrial wage? Do they claim like Adams to be socialist and then seek the best medical care in the country where quality of medical care is completely dependent on ability to pay?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Have you ever been to the north jh? Have you ever been to deprived areas in any country? How ridiculous. A tiny group are behind the Quinn affair, hundreds and hundreds are happily working to make Mannock a successful company. I know many of them and am related to quite a few. You are as usual exaggerating.
jh79 wrote: » Republicans are well able to look after "their own" too. Both Gerry's i believe have holiday homes while only having the average industrial wage. I believe Kelly's is in Spain. Only the best private American health care is good enough for "Socialist" Adams.
wicklowstevo wrote: » :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac: I knew you were going to say that somehow , sure with sf winning all those recent elections its actually 40 for UI right now 88 leave as is and 72 at some time in the future is circumstances change
FrancieBrady wrote: » 111 want a UI v 85 who don't? Remind me to ignore anything you have to offer on costs.
James Brown wrote: » The cost doesn't matter to me one bit TBH. We've been rode ragged for decades by political parties looking after 'their own', High time we looked after ours IMO.
jh79 wrote: » You might get a return. Would you invest in an area that has a peace wall to separate people based on religion? How do you recruit in that situation. Look at what is happening in Cavan with Quinn. Completely lawless were locals decide who is allowed do business in their area. It would be even worse in NI.
wicklowstevo wrote: » o I don't know the poll seems to be going against you in the other thread so far
FrancieBrady wrote: » It isn't a 'cost'. NI will be a contributing region just like Connacht or Munster. If you 'invest' in either of those regions you get a 'return'.
FrancieBrady wrote: » That's your opinion, there are many others who wouldn't agree.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Brilliant workforce and a blank canvas for investment. Huge opportunities. Not everyone is a negative 'I'm alright Jack' about their country and fellow country men and women.
wicklowstevo wrote: » you do understand that prior to partition the north west of Ireland was not a nice place either don't you ? the consequences of unification for several generations at least would destroy both country's
FrancieBrady wrote: » They certainly don't. The consequences of partition have had a heavy toll on this entire island.
jh79 wrote: » Point 1: I don't think people were saying that unionist consent was a requirement, more that the bigger the buy in from unionist s the easier it will be. Some like Campell will never be accepting of a UI. Also, not all Catholics will vote for a UI so it is a bit short sighted to think the demographics will mean we don't have to talk to them. The last opinion poll had 25% of Catholics against a UI. Point 2: Where is the preferential treatment and who is saying 50+1% will be ignored? It certainly wouldn't make things easy but noone has said what she is claiming. Point 3: As above the greater the majority the easier it would be to facilitate. The program was about how we would like it to turn out not about redefining the GFA. Point 4: The division is a consequence of the communities and there political representatives. Both the DUP and SF have done nothing but make it worse. That's on them. Whether we lap it up is irrelevant ye cause the division. It's a factor voters in the Republic have to consider. Point 5: Fair enough, they might never accept the hand of friendship and there might never be a UI and she'll just have to accept the democratic will of the majority. Point 6: Missed what Bruton said. I'm not obliged to do anything. I'll use my vote as I see fit. Points 7/8/9: Not sure what point she is making so no comments on them. Points 10/11: Her personal want for a UI is not justification for a border poll. The planning can happen without a date being set. She might see it as advantageous for her position but that isn't a justification to ignore the current public opinion
wicklowstevo wrote: » the negatives massively outweigh the positives as well you know , francie
FrancieBrady wrote: » A thread echoing some of the stuff we have been discussing. Particularly liked this dismissal of Bruton and those like him. https://twitter.com/EmmaL_R90/status/1374379614156460044
wicklowstevo wrote: » soon as there is a word wide demand for large ships and 2nd rate whiskey NI will be worth investing in , the NI economy is in a laughable state propped up by the brits , helped greatly by the party's in power there as we all know
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