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The Parish priest

The Today fm ceo has announced major changes are coming in 17...Any predictions ? My guess cormac and daniella for breakfast, Chris and Ciara for mid morning and Ian Dempsey goes to drive time

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Dannyman76

fg1406 wrote: »

I recently got a new job where the radio is on all day. I had not listened to radio (outside of local radio the odd time) for about 15 years. I actually felt I was being held hostage by the TodayFM algorithm. Same ads, same order, same songs, same “witty banter” day in day out. The shouty unfunny characters on D&D, the jingle for Letter Rip...what is that? It sounds like it was made by a transition year student on Cubase. And then Fergal Darcy. He’s probably a nice person but sweet Jesus....it’s like ctrl+v radio straight out of the tony Fenton playbook.

I could feel my brain cells melting with each day. I got angry every time I heard that “my wife is not a ho no” song. It’s lyrics are so asinine and misogynistic.

Again,I dont like the format of daytime radio and I never in a trillion years would expect to say this but 2Fm is so much better.

"So there you go, oh
Can't make a wife out of a ho, oh" There's that other song too called Mood, you might have heard it "Only thing I need to know is if you wet enough" Sometimes I think certain presenters (they're not DJs) only read a script like Ron Burgundy

Dannyman76

Paula McSweeney back for a weekend covering Allison Curtis. Nice to hear her so happy to be on radio. Wonder where Pamela Joyce will go when the maternity cover ends

fg1406

Chuck Noland wrote: »

It’s not perfect but it’s a lot better then Today FM. The 2pm pump, Cliff bangers, noughties at noon, plenty of features to get people interacting like Mo K’s slot or the headline game and competitions like Panic..Not much of the “what things remind you of the 80s/90s” etc that seem so forced on Today FM.

I recently got a new job where the radio is on all day. I had not listened to radio (outside of local radio the odd time) for about 15 years. I actually felt I was being held hostage by the TodayFM algorithm. Same ads, same order, same songs, same “witty banter” day in day out. The shouty unfunny characters on D&D, the jingle for Letter Rip...what is that? It sounds like it was made by a transition year student on Cubase. And then Fergal Darcy. He’s probably a nice person but sweet Jesus....it’s like ctrl+v radio straight out of the tony Fenton playbook.

I could feel my brain cells melting with each day. I got angry every time I heard that “my wife is not a ho no” song. It’s lyrics are so asinine and misogynistic.

Again,I dont like the format of daytime radio and I never in a trillion years would expect to say this but 2Fm is so much better.

[Deleted User]

Kelly Anne byrnes new show on face radio is brilliant! So happy she’s back on the airwaves

https://thefaceradio.com/

Chuck Noland

RINO87 wrote: »

Funny you mention that, i had not listened to daytime 2fm in years but put it on Tuesday there and her show was light years ahead of the other stations, it was so refreshing to hear!

It’s not perfect but it’s a lot better then Today FM. The 2pm pump, Cliff bangers, noughties at noon, plenty of features to get people interacting like Mo K’s slot or the headline game and competitions like Panic..Not much of the “what things remind you of the 80s/90s” etc that seem so forced on Today FM.

rino87

Chuck Noland wrote: »

After her recent jab about being on her period I checked out. I’ve listened to today fm for over 20 years but can’t anymore bar D&D. Amazing that she makes Tracy Clifford on 2FM look and sound like prime Larry Gogan.

Funny you mention that, i had not listened to daytime 2fm in years but put it on Tuesday there and her show was light years ahead of the other stations, it was so refreshing to hear!

ButtersSuki

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Mairead ronan needs to be taken off the bloody air. Every link she does is Covid or lockdown related, she never shuts up about it.

If I want to hear constant negativity about the pandemic I'd put on Radio 1!

Does she have any producers to tell her she is supposed to be doing a light topiced music orientated show. She would depress a bloody nation!!

That’s not true, she doesn’t just talk about Covid; she talks about herself too. Actually mostly.

Chuck Noland

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Mairead ronan needs to be taken off the bloody air. Every link she does is Covid or lockdown related, she never shuts up about it.

If I want to hear constant negativity about the pandemic I'd put on Radio 1!

Does she have any producers to tell her she is supposed to be doing a light topiced music orientated show. She would depress a bloody nation!!

After her recent jab about being on her period I checked out. I’ve listened to today fm for over 20 years but can’t anymore bar D&D. Amazing that she makes Tracy Clifford on 2FM look and sound like prime Larry Gogan.

Johnthemanager

Mairead ronan needs to be taken off the bloody air. Every link she does is Covid or lockdown related, she never shuts up about it.

If I want to hear constant negativity about the pandemic I'd put on Radio 1!

Does she have any producers to tell her she is supposed to be doing a light topiced music orientated show. She would depress a bloody nation!!

stronglikebull

paddylonglegs wrote: »

Other countries have far tighter rotations it’s laughable. Defo thought of Atlantic 252 though

American radio is terrible for that. Last time I was in Florida, they had One Direction on every single time we got into the car, no matter what station was on. It became a running gag by the end of the two weeks. We thought that Simon Cowell was sponsoring all the radio stations in Florida or something.

ButtersSuki

I’ve posted this before, but still hits the nail on the head. Go to 1:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOFKU_hwj2o

Only thing is he’s severely under-estimated the time period at just 3 months.

True story: I’m so old I have the original (F*ck Dat) on vinyl. I wonder what would the content creators think of vinyl?

paddylonglegs

Other countries have far tighter rotations it’s laughable. Defo thought of Atlantic 252 though

TaurenDruid

marno21 wrote: »

Didn’t Atlantic 252 have 90 minute rotation for some of the biggest songs? Capital in the UK have 2 hour rotation for some of the bigger songs

:eek::eek::eek:

As someone who used to work in retail - that's a terrifying thought!

marno21

Most listeners only listen to the radio in short bursts. Therefore, the biggest songs are on high rotation so that people who tune in and out have a good chance of hearing them.

I’d bet that 10 minutes after they play x song there’s people texting in for it already.

Didn’t Atlantic 252 have 90 minute rotation for some of the biggest songs? Capital in the UK have 2 hour rotation for some of the bigger songs

Irish Gunner

radiotrickster wrote: »

But are radio stations made so that you listen to the station non-stop for the entire day? It makes sense to repeat songs because most people probably won't hear it every time it's one, so it doesn't feel that repetitive to them.

And your point been caller?

In these times more people WFH and also some others have radio on while working in shops, factories etc I can change the dial but post was my POV

I understand that they play the 'Popular' songs to get more listeners and then more advertisement but if they stick with the repetitiveness it may turn listeners off.

So to quote Homer on Todays FM plan 'First you get the sugar... Then you get the power... then you get the women'

TaurenDruid

radiotrickster wrote: »

But are radio stations made so that you listen to the station non-stop for the entire day? It makes sense to repeat songs because most people probably won't hear it every time it's one, so it doesn't feel that repetitive to them.

Well, in the Before Times, no... you'd hear the radio on the way to work, maybe, possibly lunchtime, possibly on a commute home, maybe while making dinner.
(And in my case it stayed on then because most evenings, radio is better than TV, unless I'm streaming something).

Unless you worked in a shop or somewhere else that has the radio on all day.

Now? Radio goes on at 9ish in the morning, and stays on all day long, unless I really need to concentrate on something, in which case I have Spotify playlists.

radiotrickster

Irish Gunner wrote: »

That Bl**dy Driving Licence song is on repeat on every show

At this stage I would like to go and Hot Wire her car and run her down:mad:

Its the Repetitiveness of songs that I cannot stand

Also the constant HSE adds get on my wick

Thats my 2c

But are radio stations made so that you listen to the station non-stop for the entire day? It makes sense to repeat songs because most people probably won't hear it every time it's one, so it doesn't feel that repetitive to them.

Irish Gunner

That Bl**dy Driving Licence song is on repeat on every show

At this stage I would like to go and Hot Wire her car and run her down:mad:

Its the Repetitiveness of songs that I cannot stand

Also the constant HSE adds get on my wick

Thats my 2c

paddylonglegs

robo wrote: »

I have given up on the music on TodayFM - rarely listen now during the day, except for Sunday nights from 7pm with Ed Smith. The station's music choices are woeful

To be fair, I doubt they have a choice most of the time, it’s commercial radio and you’re going to hear the same songs on other national stations the world over. I’m sure there’s some agreement made with record companies etc to keep their songs on the radio. As much as I love Ed Smiths show, it just wouldn’t be viable to have that type of music playing 24/7, as big companies wouldn’t want to advertise on niche radio. Radio nova is an example

channelsurfer2

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Good to see outpatients is catering for the majority of people's listening tastes, and some light-hearted banter from professional comedians is probably just what you need in such a situation:

"In mid-morning (9am-12pm), Dermot & Dave are celebrating a record audience high of 183,000, (+20,000 BoB) making them the most listened to show in that time slot on commercial radio." ~ from last November's JNLR's.

So they're doing something right?

Each to their own as they say but not for me probably a minority.but if you call that banter I call it mind numbing.. having got used to will and Rick on rte gold I know what I prefer..

TaurenDruid

Chuck Noland wrote: »

That’s not how it works. Songs are Categorised into folders. The playlist software then chooses songs from each folder randomly and within the restrictions on that folder say For example

High rotation (top 10). songs not to be repeated for 2-3 hours
Medium rotation (recent hits). songs not to be repeated in a day
Irish. Songs not to be repeated in say 6 hours

I absolutely get the requirement for a radio station that's trying to appeal to X demographic to have to play a certain proportion of 'hot' songs, a lesser proportion of medium rotation, etc. Despite some views here, that "sh1te" song is really popular for a reason - and therefore has to be played.

It would be nice, though, if they'd adjust the algorithms somewhat. Did people listen to the radio as much, pre-lockdown? I'm gonna guess probably not? WFH, it's not uncommon to hear some of the same songs repeated on every show during the day (examples in the last two pages) - or, at least, it seems that way.

I could stand to hear "Giants" or "The Business" or "Driver's Licence" once a day. Hearing them on D&D then on Mairéad Ronan, then on Fergal d'Arcy too... not so much!

Chuck Noland

BPKS wrote: »

Probably easier to copy and paste bits of playlist from differents show on the station to create a new music for another show.

That's Step 1 in being a Content Creator.

That’s not how it works. Songs are Categorised into folders. The playlist software then chooses songs from each folder randomly and within the restrictions on that folder say For example

High rotation (top 10). songs not to be repeated for 2-3 hours
Medium rotation (recent hits). songs not to be repeated in a day
Irish. Songs not to be repeated in say 6 hours

The playlist is then built in folder format on the advise of well paid external music research company’s normally and an example of this would be

News
High rotation
Add
High rotation
Medium rotation
Add
High rotation
Irish
High rotation
Add
News

This is obviously a very very basic example and things like links, features, competitions all need to be factored in. Add in slots then for music to tie into cheese and crackers and the “text in too choose” features, but I think you get the jist. As new songs hit the charts and “scores well” with music research company’s they get added into the high rotation folder. As songs fall in the charts they move into the medium rotation and so on. Again this is very basic but the majority of music radio from 6am - 6pm is done is this fashion to ensure the stations “sound” is kept to.

Very few Radio Presenters during those hours actually get to choose what they put out on the air but part of the “magic of radio” is leading people to believe they do.

TaurenDruid

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

Stuck listening to the two "comedians" in an outpatients waiting room for the last 30 mins.the fake laughter and banter is awful..should have brought my earphones and tuned out to rte gold my usual choice.

Good to see outpatients is catering for the majority of people's listening tastes, and some light-hearted banter from professional comedians is probably just what you need in such a situation:

"In mid-morning (9am-12pm), Dermot & Dave are celebrating a record audience high of 183,000, (+20,000 BoB) making them the most listened to show in that time slot on commercial radio." ~ from last November's JNLR's.

So they're doing something right?

Comic Book Guy

stronglikebull wrote: »

Once again, Omi's Cheerleader was on this morning. Why oh why are they still playing that crap song? I've noticed in the last year that there's a certain set of older songs that get played daily on the station. There's that one, Daft Punk/Pherell - Get Lucky, Example - Kickstart (awful song), that bloody Sweedish House Maffia song (can't remember the name), and a few others that are on inexplicably often. Are these songs cheap or free to play or what? There's no reason to pick the same ones over and over.

I just flicked over to Today fm after Moncrief finished and that Swedish House Mafia song has just finished!!

ILikeBoats

stronglikebull wrote: »

Once again, Omi's Cheerleader was on this morning. Why oh why are they still playing that crap song? I've noticed in the last year that there's a certain set of older songs that get played daily on the station. There's that one, Daft Punk/Pherell - Get Lucky, Example - Kickstart (awful song), that bloody Sweedish House Maffia song (can't remember the name), and a few others that are on inexplicably often. Are these songs cheap or free to play or what? There's no reason to pick the same ones over and over.

Katy Perry - Firework and Outkast - Hey Ya will also be played without fail

Dannyman76

BPKS wrote: »

Probably easier to copy and paste bits of playlist from differents show on the station to create a new music for another show.

That's Step 1 in being a Content Creator.

Notice how if one DJ plays a rarely played old song it gets played in every other show after that

statto25

johnire wrote: »

This morning was the first time in a year that I tuned into Today FM. We always had in on in the background at work but since WFH I never bothered with it. I had to drive this morning to an appointment at 9 and the first song I heard on the D and D show was Gavin James - Always! Seriously..... it was like Groundhog Day. Listening to D and D too was pretty uninspiring- still going on with that “ Irish” rubbish.

Nothing is going to change as the station still has decent figures. The only way is to change dial and save your sanity

johnire

This morning was the first time in a year that I tuned into Today FM. We always had in on in the background at work but since WFH I never bothered with it. I had to drive this morning to an appointment at 9 and the first song I heard on the D and D show was Gavin James - Always! Seriously..... it was like Groundhog Day. Listening to D and D too was pretty uninspiring- still going on with that “ Irish” rubbish.

channelsurfer2

Stuck listening to the two "comedians" in an outpatients waiting room for the last 30 mins.the fake laughter and banter is awful..should have brought my earphones and tuned out to rte gold my usual choice.

BPKS

stronglikebull wrote: »

Once again, Omi's Cheerleader was on this morning. Why oh why are they still playing that crap song? I've noticed in the last year that there's a certain set of older songs that get played daily on the station. There's that one, Daft Punk/Pherell - Get Lucky, Example - Kickstart (awful song), that bloody Sweedish House Maffia song (can't remember the name), and a few others that are on inexplicably often. Are these songs cheap or free to play or what? There's no reason to pick the same ones over and over.

Probably easier to copy and paste bits of playlist from differents show on the station to create a new music for another show.

That's Step 1 in being a Content Creator.