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Leinster Vs Munster Pro 14 final build up thread

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To save two team threads getting messy

Here's a thread for you to get you started

Munster looking for their first silverware in 10 years
Leinster going for 4 in a row

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Clegg

bayern wrote: »

I dunno Beirne will be the best 2nd row and likely forward on the pitch.. Leinster will have big advantage in front row but back 5 of the pack.. may shade toward Munster

You're right about Beirne. But that advantage is negated by the probable presence of Jean Kleyn. I really don't rate him.

That being said, I think Leinsters advantage in the front 5 hinges on Ryan Baird. We need an athletic presence at lock in the absence of Ryan. I don't think we can start Toner and Fardy against the better sides anymore.

yerrahbah

https://twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1374347049626386440

yerrahbah

eastie17 wrote: »

Is it on telly? If so where?
Thanks

Eir agus TG4

https://www.pro14.rugby/match-centre

CMcsporty

bayern wrote: »

pray for Carbery's ankle.

but most likely we will have Ross Byrne showing Joey how to play outhalf properly and not for the first time.

Go on outa that!
If we dont get Sexton I want Harry v Joey

bayern

CMcsporty wrote: »

Go on outa that!
If we dont get Sexton I want Harry v Joey

Harry's chance of starting the final went out the window against Ospreys and probably missing the ulster away game.

CMcsporty

Byrne Bouncebackability test!

.ak

Yeah, all joking aside, this isnt the game for Harry to cut his teeth in. He's doing well, picking up experience consistently, but still has a lot to learn in regards to the nuances of game management.

I've no doubt he'll surpass his brother, but it'll be another 12 months atleast, barring injury.

The Inbetween is mine

1 Cronin
2 Scannell
3 Ryan
4 Kleyn
5 Beirne
6 POM
7 Cloete
8 Coombes
9 Murray
10 Joey
11 Earls
12 DeAllende
13 Farrell
14 Conway
15 Haley

That's what I think we'll go with

bayern

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

1 Cronin
2 Scannell
3 Ryan
4 Kleyn
5 Beirne
6 POM
7 Cloete
8 Coombes
9 Murray
10 Joey
11 Earls
12 DeAllende
13 Farrell
14 Conway
15 Haley

That's what I think we'll go with

Stander?

lawrencesummers

Hard to see anything other than a Leinster win here.

Munster form has been up and down, very few positions are definite because of rotation and injury.

Munster have consistently fallen short on the big day and this won’t be any different.

The Inbetween is mine

bayern wrote: »

Stander?

Personally I'd like to see Coombes start, have CJ on the bench...

lawrencesummers

bayern wrote: »

Stander?

6 CJ
7 POM
8 combs

Jump_In_Jack

My guess at Munster 23 for final:

1. Cronin, 2. Scannell, 3. Archer
4. Beirne(Holland), 5. Kleyn
6. Stander(O'Donoghue), 8. Coombes, 7. O'Mahony
9. Murray, 10. Carbery
11. Earls(Daly), 12. De Allende, 13. Farrell, 14. Conway
15. Haley

16. Marshall, 17. Loughman, 18. Ryan, 19. Holland(Ahern), 20. O'Donoghue(Cloete), 21. Casey, 22. Hanrahan, 23. Daly(Sweetnam).

Possible changes if Ireland players were to be too fatigued from multiple 6N appearances:
Beirne - Holland to start, Ahern to bench
Stander - O'Donoghue to start, Cloete to bench
Earls - Daly to start, Sweetnam to bench

Missing due to injury but might have made the 23 otherwise:
[Probably] Kilcoyne - HIA
Snyman - ACL
Fineen Wycherley - Neck

Close calls:
Kevin O'Byrne could edge out Marshall for the hooker bench spot.
Thomas Ahern could edge out Kleyn at tight side lock.
O'Sullivan could edge out Cloete for the back row bench spot if Stander doesn't play.
Healy could get on to the bench if Carbery doesn't play, and Hanrahan would start.
Daly could start ahead of Conway, not sure which is the better player right now.
Scannell, Nash or Gallagher could get the utility back bench spot instead of Sweetnam if Earls doesn't play.

Tommybojangles

.ak wrote: »

Yeah, all joking aside, this isnt the game for Harry to cut his teeth in.

The Ireland thread a few weeks ago would have told you the France game was the one to cut his teeth in ::D

bayern

Munster training in Thomond today, that's different. :pac:

mfceiling

Tommybojangles wrote: »

The Ireland thread a few weeks ago would have told you the France game was the one to cut his teeth in ::D

True. He's above Pro14 level so this game would be pretty meaningless to him.

[Deleted User]

Tempting fate but imo other than Beirne Munster's tight 5 just isn't that great imo, if Leinster can get on top there the rest will look after itself.

arsebiscuits1

Interested Observer wrote: »

Tempting fate but imo other than Beirne Munster's tight 5 just isn't that great imo, if Leinster can get on top there the rest will look after itself.

Yeah I would say Leinster shade that battle alright.

Is Killer confirmed unavailable? That would broaden the gap also.

Healy, Byrne and Dooley are all great loosehead stocks to have

At tighthead I wouldn't have Munsters first choice ahead of Leinsters 3rd (Bent)

Hookers is all advantage Leinster too as they offer a lot more than their red peers and both sides have had their throwing woes.

Tadgh Beirne is in the form of his life but compounded by the fact that he'll likely be partnering Kleyn whose just not a reliable enough player in big games.

Leinster even without Ryan can put out an incredible capable second row unit choosing from Baird, Toner, Fardy and Molony.

As a Unit, Leinsters front 5 should have the advantage. If Killer is fit that might change things. But not by much

The Inbetween is mine

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Yeah I would say Leinster shade that battle alright.

Is Killer confirmed unavailable? That would broaden the gap also.

Healy, Byrne and Dooley are all great loosehead stocks to have

At tighthead I wouldn't have Munsters first choice ahead of Leinsters 3rd (Bent)

Hookers is all advantage Leinster too as they offer a lot more than their red peers and both sides have had their throwing woes.

Tadgh Beirne is in the form of his life but compounded by the fact that he'll likely be partnering Kleyn whose just not a reliable enough player in big games.

Leinster even without Ryan can put out an incredible capable second row unit choosing from Baird, Toner, Fardy and Molony.

As a Unit, Leinsters front 5 should have the advantage. If Killer is fit that might change things. But not by much

TBH, I would pick any of Munster's 3 hookers over anything that Leinster have.. K O'Byrne would saunter into that Leinster side on the L'Oréal effect alone!

arsebiscuits1

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

TBH, I would pick any of Munster's 3 hookers over anything that Leinster have.. K O'Byrne would saunter into that Leinster side on the L'Oréal effect alone!

Can't say I agree with that one.

Cronin, Kelleher and Sheehan all offer very significant points of difference over their peers.

Cronin in pace and experience.

Kelleher in genuine impact physicality that's been demonstrated at test level against some international units.

Sheehan in wrecking ball tendencies going forward.

All have had their issues from touch but Munsters lineout has hardly been stellar with KOB frequently a cuprit of poor throws recently

[Deleted User]

Best chance Munster will have in a long time. The Leinster team are spent after beating England. I presume that joke has been made a few times already.

arsebiscuits1

Deleted User wrote: »

Best chance Munster will have in a long time. The Leinster team are spent after beating England. I presume that joke has been made a few times already.

Absolutely.

Munster players presumably too busy focusing on Lions selection too.

It's a big ask but I'm sure a lot of them will hope to force their way into Rassies reckoning to get selected to play the Lions

sydthebeat

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

TBH, I would pick any of Munster's 3 hookers over anything that Leinster have.. K O'Byrne would saunter into that Leinster side on the L'Oréal effect alone!

2021 Munster forwards are the new ladyboys shocker ......

bayern

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

TBH, I would pick any of Munster's 3 hookers over anything that Leinster have.. K O'Byrne would saunter into that Leinster side on the L'Oréal effect alone!

:rolleyes:

Dubinusa

This is a great opportunity for Munster. They have more of a settled side. Leinster bringing back international lads may be a hindrance. Besides, Leinster don't have anyone that has a mean face like POM. That must be worth a few points.

bayern

It's Munster day Saturday, it's written in the stars.

https://extra.ie/2021/03/24/sport/rugby/munster-pro14-final-trophy-drought

May 28 could ring in a very significant anniversary for Munster. A potential 10-year milestone is in the offing. It is not a landmark that this operation want to be celebrating, however.

It is nine years and 10 months since the province last secured a piece of silverware. When Paul O’Connell lifted the Magners League trophy at a packed-out Thomond Park, little did the Munster faithful know that it would precede a title drought in the years ahead.

.../CROPPED

.ak

bayern wrote: »

It's Munster day Saturday, it's written in the stars.

https://extra.ie/2021/03/24/sport/rugby/munster-pro14-final-trophy-drought

Just an FYI, cannot post full articles on Boards.ie - link and some text is fine. I've amended the post as such.

sebdavis

Both sides are desperate to be ranked as the underdogs!!

We will only know who is when the teams are announced. I have a feeling Munster will become favorites then.

The Inbetween is mine

sebdavis wrote: »

Both sides are desperate to be ranked as the underdogs!!

We will only know who is when the teams are announced. I have a feeling Munster will become favorites then.

Unless Leinster throw out their academy side, Munster are rightly the underdogs

swiwi_

Is this available to watch on tv outside of Ireland??