FrancieBrady wrote: » There was that, and this:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/individual-government-deals-on-the-table-for-regional-independent-tds-1.4270959
blanch152 wrote: » So they weren't looking for him back in the party. Glad that is cleared up.
FrancieBrady wrote: » If he guarantees to vote for them, he may as well be a member. It's clear FG had no issues with him.
blanch152 wrote: » No, it is the opposite, they haven't let him back into the party so clearly, obviously, plainly, factually, truly, undeniably, evidently, unmistakably, manifestly and visibly, they still have an issue with him. If only it was so clear about other politicians.
FrancieBrady wrote: » But he is a de facto member who votes for them - and he would have guaranteed it. And nobody said NO in FG or here.
blanch152 wrote: » That is a new-found term - "de facto member". I am trying to understand it and maybe best if you gave examples of where else would it apply? Would a "good republican" be a "de facto member" of Sinn Fein?
Would a convicted IRA terrorist be a "de facto member" of Sinn Fein as well?
Would a convicted child abuser who got a job working with children thanks to Sinn Fein be a "de facto member"?
How is a "de facto" member defined?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Is he elected as a TD and garunteeing to vote for them to keep them in power? People convicted in the conflict/war and who signed up to the GFA are members of SF...did you not know this? What relevance it has here, only you know, because I don't. Again, other than a pathetic attempt to deflect, what relevance has this? One who guarantees to vote for the party in a deal to keep them in power. As outlined here:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/individual-government-deals-on-the-table-for-regional-independent-tds-1.4270959
blanch152 wrote: » So the Green TDs are "de facto" members of Fine Gael? And Tony Gregory was a "de facto" member of Fianna Fail? I dare you to explain that to their faces, if you could.
FrancieBrady wrote: » If they have guaranteed to vote with them in a deal ...yes, they have 'coalesced' = come together to form one mass or whole. FG have no issues with Lowry when it comes to seeking his support/coalescing with him. Fact.
blanch152 wrote: » That sentence at the end does not make him a "de facto member" which is an invented fiction.
smurgen wrote: » Haha.https://twitter.com/josephamadigan/status/1375828892490080260?s=19
James Brown wrote: » This is the type of stuff social media marketers do to keep your profile up. We are paying for this ****e.
Deleted User wrote: » How are you paying for it exactly? Again, there are two false narratives going around when it comes to politicians using social media. 1). That the Government's Strategic Communications Unit was going to be used to spread propaganda on behalf of the parties that made up the Government. Not true - those ads saying 'a message from the Government of Ireland' you hear/see relating to things like Covid/HPV vaccination/Brexit were going to paid out from a single contract as opposed to every department having to tender for their own comms services. Cost optimisation from the civil service. I think we can all agree that was a good idea! 2). That politicians sending tweets in a personal capacity are somehow open to abuse from no-necks on social media. They aren't.
Tweet deal - Madigan uses €20,000 of taxpayers' cash on her social media image
FINE GAEL HAS insisted it does not buy Facebook ‘likes’ after a post-Budget Q&A with junior minister Simon Harris attracted over 2,500 ‘likes’, many of them from overseas profiles. The party faced accusations last night of buying Facebook ‘likes’ in an attempt to boost its profile on the social media website after the post with Harris’s Q&A attracted thousands of ‘likes’ in contrast to many of the others status updates on the page.
Bubbaclaus wrote: » Must be a quiet news week when articles from 2014 are being dug up as "interesting".
Deleted User wrote: » Citizen Journalism.
James Brown wrote: » This is interesting. So we have FG using nefarious foreign means to garner Facebook Likes. The tax payer funding Social Media gurus for their members and of course the classic suggestion by Varadkar that FG run anonymous fake accounts to talk up the party. Add to that the amount they spend going way beyond the two bigger parties, it's more than Ironic they try preach to others regarding Social Media IMO.
blanch152 wrote: » Thankfully I didn't see that article, but it is a sign of desperation. Social media now is infinitely different to seven years ago, something you think might have crossed that poster's mind.
James Brown wrote: » So trying to rig 'likes' using a firm abroad is okay but having people based abroad is different because ...seven years? No, don't think so. It shows FG are willing to use people abroad to sell the pretence of support. Where are the cries of foreign donations or 'nefarious' and so on? Just little quips. Hypocritical, no surprise.
The importation of vital PPE supplies to Ireland will be temporarily suspended next week to facilitate the urgent delivery of a massive consignment of cotton wool to Paschal Donohoe and the Fine Gael party. This emergency shipment was ordered following a two-day crisis meeting of the National Preciousness and High Horse Emergency Team (Nphhet) in the wake of a vicious and traumatic assault on the sensitivities of the Minister for Finance and his sacrosanct colleagues by the state broadcaster, RTÉ.
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