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Justice League Spoilers from post 980 onward

larchielads

We've had the avengers i want the justice league!!!!!!!
Just sayin is all..........................but wouldnt we just love it!!!!!!

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techdiver

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Where can you watch this ?

The only "official" source in Ireland is Sky Cinema or if you don't have Sky or a Sky Cinema subscription you can buy a Now TV Cinema pass.

Joeface

I was hoping Rakuten TV would have this , as they had Wonder Woman 1984 and in UHD .

I despise Sky and since I left their service behind 6 years ago my brain won't let me touch anything of theirs

Hurrache

Sky also have it in UHD.

Headshot

I cannot get over the differences. I'm quite shocked

Snyder justice league is on a whole different level altogether and what i would do to see a sequel with Darkseid against Superman

Darkseid being my favorite bad guy around

Hurrache

What brings it to a 15s rating over the other version?

the baby bull elephant

Is there anyway to get it from sky without upgrading to Sly Cinema, don't mind renting or buying it.

NowTV being capped at 720p makes it a no for me.

Brief_Lives

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

Is there anyway to get it from sky without upgrading to Sly Cinema, don't mind renting or buying it.

NowTV being capped at 720p makes it a no for me.

what about the HBO app, there is a free 7 day trial.

mloc123

Headshot wrote: »

I cannot get over the differences. I'm quite shocked

Snyder justice league is on a whole different level altogether and what i would do to see a sequel with Darkseid against Superman

Darkseid being my favorite bad guy around

The teased sequel at the end with joker etc... I would watch that.

TheLocalMan

I hate that its getting good reviews. Because we're not getting anything else. This is it. ****.

ShineOn7

I've grown to loathe the Marvel "universe" and how every film is interlinked

Would I enjoy this new cut of this? I enjoyed The Dark Knight and Batman films in general

The reviews have been - almost across the board - highly praising of Snyder's new version

Penn

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I've grown to loathe the Marvel "universe" and how every film is interlinked

Would I enjoy this new cut of this? I enjoyed The Dark Knight and Batman films in general

The reviews have been - almost across the board - highly praising of Snyder's new version

At the very least you need to have seen Batman V Superman. But unless you've seen Man of Steel and Wonder Woman as well you're unlikely to get the full enjoyment out of it.

Agent Coulson

So it looks like the new footage that was filmed might be about setting up a sequel.

I really enjoyed that I must say and I am happy for Snyder that he got to see out his project.

unplayable

pretty, pretty, pretty good about 1.5 hours through it

senordingdong

Brief_Lives wrote: »

what about the HBO app, there is a free 7 day trial.

Can we get that over here?

Brief_Lives

senordingdong wrote: »

Can we get that over here?

Not sure, I smbased in Madrid, so thats how I viewed...

McDermotX

Better than the theatrical......yes. Not exactly a challenge.
A solid superhero film ?....perhaps.
A good superhero film ?...hmmmmm. perhaps a solid 6.5/10, but Man of Steel, with all its faults, is still the standard to set 8 years after the fact with regard to the DCEU.

As expected some of the reaction to this has been OTT in certain quarters, and unfortunately a lot of the predicted bloat and clunkiness that a 4hr, relatively director-unrestrained, film would likely entail is very evident. Its also interesting to see that a number of the more annoying sequences of the theatrical ARE the director's vision and not some studio/Whedon invention at short notice. That said, the effective removal or trimming down of a number of setplays are to be praised which is why I cannot outright hate the film unlike the theatrical.
Some very distracting CG work, which is probably to be expected given the nature of how this came about, even with the investment, but I was also disappointed with the Holkenborg score overall, only feeling the inputs from earlier efforts periodically.
There are some positives, like the early Cyborg stuff, and the quiet moments revolving around Superman, Lois, Ma Kent etc but even they get undermined for largely unwarranted reasons which is more than a bit frustrating.
The epilogue of course, is almost unfair with obvious sequel connotations, so largely comes across as an enticing addendum as opposed to a natural finish to the film. That said I think most people would like to see a true extension to what played out here.

Glad it came out as it did, as the theatrical cut completely sucked, though I'd much rather see a 2hr documentary on the production back in 2017, than sit through the full 4hrs again.

techdiver

Just finished. Absolutely fantastic! I need time to digest.

Slydice

Watched it, wow that was great!

Zack Snyder did a great job directing. He really got across such a sense of loss in so much of the film and the dedication to his lost daughter at the end felt really deep.

The whole film was just better than the other version. Like the Ultimate version of Batman Vs Superman was better than the theatrical version but Zack Snyder's Justice League is just on another level compared to what Whedon did.

One big difference I was shocked at was how great Cyborgs Father (Silas Stone) did. He was in Terminator 2 as the creator of Skynet and he brought back that feel from his last scene in terminator to this film.

My face when

Diana took Steppenwolfs head!

:eek::eek:

Oh and

the not have people live nearby the final battle! Not having that there was such a relief!

Future: Definitely looks like they have plans and I wouldn't mind seeing them move ahead. The big picture is so complicated now though. I dunno what they are gonna do.

Biggest Gripe: Warner Brothers

clearly skimped on the money for the special effects for the Amazon battle at the start.

I mean like, can they ever take their foot out of their own asses.

johnnysmack

Just finished this and it was absolutely excellent! It's not the movie we deserved in 2017 but the one we needed in 2021.

Mal-Adjusted

So, as so many people here seem to have seen the ultimate edition of BvS, is it materially different? I should say, I loved Man of Steel but hated Batman v Superman at the cinema, so is it worth viewing the ultimate edition?

techdiver

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

So, as so many people here seem to have seen the ultimate edition of BvS, is it materially different? I should say, I loved Man of Steel but hated Batman v Superman at the cinema, so is it worth viewing the ultimate edition?

If you hated it the I'm not sure the UE is going to sway you. It is a superior movie with more fleshed out plot explaining many of the plot holes. I really like it to be honest but understand why people don't.

Now Justice League is on a different planet between the theatrical version and the Snyder cut. I've never seen the "same" movie changed so much in a second cut and all for the better.

GSPfan

techdiver wrote: »

If you hated it the I'm not sure the UE is going to sway you. It is a superior movie with more fleshed out plot explaining many of the plot holes. I really like it to be honest but understand why people don't.

Now Justice League is on a different planet between the theatrical version and the Snyder cut. I've never seen the "same" movie changed so much in a second cut and all for the better.

I will never really like BvS for one reason. Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luther. The film is meh/good for a lot of it but Eisenberg is a disaster.

GSPfan

I stayed up way past my bedtime to watch the Snyder Cut in one go and it’s fantastic. Loved it.

I’m tempted to watch the theatrical version again even though I hated that film just to appreciate the Snyder Cut even more.

I know it’s 4 hours but the epilogue is about 30 minutes right? That could be cut out and you probably could get another 15-30 minutes out to make it a 3 hour theatrical release. So Snyder could have made this movie even if it was slightly shorter. The Whedon version was horrific. The Flash made me smile so much toward the end. His role in the final battle is so much better. No more saving of random families in buildings.

johnny_ultimate

I’ve never seen the original version of Justice League because frankly I was never arsed, but couldn’t not check this one out as the cultural curio it is.

It is, alas, not very good. Not Batman v Superman bad - a truly noxiously awful film, that, even if it does at least have some actual themes (unlike this) - but just sort of a shrug of the shoulder.

It’s pretty much what you’d expect - a flabby, overstretched director’s cut. There’s so much stuff that scenes in the first half particularly just sort of happen in any order, without much in the way of rhyme or reason. Snyder does at least have a directorial style, which is more than the entirety of the MCU has to offer. But a lot of it is ugly green screen work, slow mo and a generally unappealing sheen of artificiality. The script’s shaky as all hell. The scenes of exposition between Darkseid and Steppenwolf are some of the absolute worst modern blockbuster gubbins imaginable - terrible CG creatures mixed with farcical, self-serious dialogue. Not one of the actors are able to say nonsense like ‘mother box’ without it sounding absurd.

And yet the first half does have a certain weirdly engaging energy to it. There’s certainly enjoyable scenes here and there, and the shorter, single character-focused set pieces are more vividly realised than the team brawls (even if the Flash is a bit of a creep in his first scene). It’s sprawling, silly and self-indulgent, but it passes the time capably enough. While it does boast a perplexingly terrible incarnation of Batman (a mix of awful writing and a barely present Affleck) it does give some of its lesser known characters some room to breathe. A couple of scenes go on way too long and some of the characters get too much attention, but there’s something of a novelty in seeing a superhero film that does find room for scenes to play out without necessarily being in a big rush to move on to the next one. The dialogue may be stinky and from a dimension where subtlety doesn’t exist, but Snyder absolute leans into all the cheesy beats with a gusto that’s somewhat admirable.

Alas, it just gets substantially worse in its second half. Once the league is together, it’s business as usual for this kind of film, even if Snyder is even more allergic to primary colours than most modern filmmakers. The big action scenes are snore-inducing, and just as you think credits are about to roll the film ultimately collapses into a boring fan service jamboree of tacked-on cameos and sequel teases. That last stretch - where the film keeps on going after it clearly ends with a cut to black - is where you really feel this could’ve easily been over and done with in three hours or less.

I’m glad Snyder finished his film, even if this is clearly not the film he’d have released in 2017 - putting aside the often obnoxious fandom, the man had an awful family tragedy and now at least got to finish the film very much on his own terms. But as a complete film his Justice League is predictably rife with overindulgence, pomp / circumstance and absurd stylisation. It’s a decent three star movie at its best, but a one/two star mess when it collapses into self-parody or lazy action set pieces.

MOR316

Where and how did you all watch it?

The White Wolf

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

So, as so many people here seem to have seen the ultimate edition of BvS, is it materially different? I should say, I loved Man of Steel but hated Batman v Superman at the cinema, so is it worth viewing the ultimate edition?

Yes because it instantly improves upon Clark and Superman's almost non characterisation in the theatrical cut.

Anyway, to the big story - I admire what Zack did here in delivering a big sprawling epic but without totally sticking the landing. My biggest issue is that again, I'm not sure how I feel about Superman's place in this world Zack has carved. It does feel a bit much that we're talking about his fall already after just being resurrected. It does lend to the idea that Snyder just doesn't know what to do with him and I can see why Cavill allegedly got cold feet on the director's vision back in the day.

Other than that I enjoyed those 4 hours as they were what I expected them to be; not so much a wonderfully crafted story but as a pure spectacle. If this was the end for these actors and story I'd be fine with it, though mind you that Knightmare scene has my interest piqued on what a film just starring Leto and Affleck could look like directed by Snyder. It doesn't even have to be in that apocalyptic timeline.

Biggest laugh of the movie both came from Superman however. One good

his absolute dismissal of Steppenwolf

and one bad

good God the CGI seemed wonky in Cyborg's mother box vision where Darkseid had his hand on Superman's shoulder, looked like a reused scene from a previous film to me.

The White Wolf

MOR316 wrote: »

Where and how did you all watch it?

Sky Cinema through Now TV (for some of us). Some others used dark arts.

senordingdong

Brief_Lives wrote: »

Not sure, I smbased in Madrid, so thats how I viewed...

HBO don't have their own platform in the uk/ire market. They have a contract with a sky so at the moment that's the only way to watch it over here.

Brief_Lives

How much is a sky contract, they will be having all the rugby next year aswell...

feargantae

Any legal ways to get the 4K version? I'm not interested in watching in 720p on Now.