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AA247

Iconic10 wrote: »

hey what is the nbn 2020 and recent video ? thanks

Hey I just did this last night go on to city colleges website and subscribe for NBNs - you just need your email. You’ll be sent the link then.

Video is very helpful at guiding you in the right direction. Worth a watch.

AA247

fe1555 wrote: »

People who have sat tort, would you say the examiner is a fair or harsh marker? Struggling with the amount to learn and unpredictability of the paper.

I would say a fair marker personally. His papers can be tricky and tend to have a shock question, but from passing the exam (surprisingly) and having the examiner as a lecturer in my masters, I would say he is a fair marker.

I would make sure you know duty of care, standard of care and causation very well as even if you have to answer a question on a specific topic you don’t know about, don’t underestimate the marks you will get from applying the basic principles.

I had to answer question on product liability which I hadn’t looked at because seemed the best to give a lash at out of the others I didn’t know. Literally never looked at the chapter, just talked about duty of care etc. and made few points I thought were common sense in the problem, 3/4 of a page and I got 8/20. Obviously still failed the question but got me over the pass mark.

Iconic10

anyone else feeling totally overwhelmed with constitutional ?

Iconic10

lawgrad49 wrote: »

I think that paper more than any seems to reflect how this examiner is so topical with his questions. Question 2 is FOE yes but it also talks about a preliminary enquiry so you have to know all about Shatter v Guerin from 2019 and Fair procedures when it comes to a prelim enquiry.

Then Q8 is a mixed bag but again if you covered the case of AC V Cork Uni Hospital (2019) you'd be on the right track as it's wardship, capacity etc.

FYI, I had similar questions to you when first looking at those questions but the NBN 2020 & recent video cleared up a lot. The Lecturer in that video basically says if you didn't know Shatter v Guerin you were kinda screwed. I would deffo advise you to watch it in advance of the exam- I watched it yesterday and I'm going to focus on some of the new cases he highlighted to fill up my last weeks prep.

hey what is the nbn 2020 and recent video ? thanks

Iso_123

Hey guys, for equity and mareva injunctions - are people going into much detail for the worldwide aspect? There is a lot of case law and detail for world wide marevas in my manual but from glancing at the papers I haven't really seen it come up - seems to mostly be about requisite intent and how the court balances the rights of plaintiff and defendant. I might have missed it though! any advice is welcome

KingofTheFE1s

Hey folks, does anyone know how far in advance the examiners put the paper together of if it differs between the exams. Looking at some recent cases for Constitutional and trying to decide if I can leave out some of the important but really recent ones. Thanks

Creg12

fe1555 wrote: »

I sat the paper in november and wasn't planning on doing the case note as it's so unpredictable. On the day I had to as I couldn't answer other questions. One case was McGhee v AG so that was a bit easier to write on as it's such a well known case in constitutional but the other one i mildly remembered the facts. I feel like that is common with the case note, there'll be one or two old seminal cases and one or two newer cases. I'd say I typed 20 lines ish per case and it ended up being the question I got the highest marks on which I was shocked about. I just briefly wrote out the facts and why it's an important in case, what it changed or the impact it had etc.
Constitutional is a daunting paper because of the sheer amount of topics but the examiner, in my opinion, is a very fair marker and will give you marks where he can.

he wants the impact, change , that sort of thing more so than the facts so you hit nail on ur head with ur approach

Iconic10

AA247 wrote: »

Thank you I will check that out!

what is the NBN lecture ?

fe1555

People who have sat tort, would you say the examiner is a fair or harsh marker? Struggling with the amount to learn and unpredictability of the paper.

fe1555

ElMo7 wrote: »

Hi guys, could anyone give me some advice on how much information is required for a case note in constitutional? Thanks

I sat the paper in november and wasn't planning on doing the case note as it's so unpredictable. On the day I had to as I couldn't answer other questions. One case was McGhee v AG so that was a bit easier to write on as it's such a well known case in constitutional but the other one i mildly remembered the facts. I feel like that is common with the case note, there'll be one or two old seminal cases and one or two newer cases. I'd say I typed 20 lines ish per case and it ended up being the question I got the highest marks on which I was shocked about. I just briefly wrote out the facts and why it's an important in case, what it changed or the impact it had etc.
Constitutional is a daunting paper because of the sheer amount of topics but the examiner, in my opinion, is a very fair marker and will give you marks where he can.

ElMo7

Hi guys, could anyone give me some advice on how much information is required for a case note in constitutional? Thanks

Fitz_95

Would anyone happen to have a good condensed type essay for an Ultra Vires Question? happy to trade anything in return

sunnylegal

Would anyone have recent sample answers from 2015 onwards for constitutional? Mine are all old cases

. I have loads to swap if anyone needs anything

AA247

lawgrad49 wrote: »

I think that paper more than any seems to reflect how this examiner is so topical with his questions. Question 2 is FOE yes but it also talks about a preliminary enquiry so you have to know all about Shatter v Guerin from 2019 and Fair procedures when it comes to a prelim enquiry.

Then Q8 is a mixed bag but again if you covered the case of AC V Cork Uni Hospital (2019) you'd be on the right track as it's wardship, capacity etc.

FYI, I had similar questions to you when first looking at those questions but the NBN 2020 & recent video cleared up a lot. The Lecturer in that video basically says if you didn't know Shatter v Guerin you were kinda screwed. I would deffo advise you to watch it in advance of the exam- I watched it yesterday and I'm going to focus on some of the new cases he highlighted to fill up my last weeks prep.

Thank you I will check that out!

AA247

ruby1998 wrote: »

Didn't sit the exam myself but im thinking fair procedures is involved in Q2,
Q5 - management of natural resources, property livelihood and it's a criminal offence so maybe an aspect in trial of due course of law is it a vague offence? idk,
Q8 - liberty being detained on mental health grounds, could throw in some personal rights here like being observed so maybe right to privacy, right to bodily integrity, maybe also fair procedures right to be heard, was his detention a proportionate response, maybe locus standi of the sister sorry I'm not too sure on this one.

hope my random thoughts don't confuse you further lol

Thank you! You are a lot more prepared than me

You know it’s bad when you’ve a paper in front of you and still can’t answer it haha - funny feeling I’ll be sitting this a third time in Autumn

Fe1user5555

Fe1user5555 wrote: »

Constitutional interpretation, SOP (specifically executive / international law), personal rights, property rights, freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, religion were the ‘high risk’ topics

I would think a q on the AG is well due but fairly impossible to guess with constitutional!

Fe1user5555

Lawabc wrote: »

Could you share what your course said are the most important topics?

Constitutional interpretation, SOP (specifically executive / international law), personal rights, property rights, freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, religion were the ‘high risk’ topics

jjjjjop

For tort, I have nuisance, duty of case, standard of case, passing off, employers liability, vicarious liablity, defamation, nervous shock.

Might add tresspass to land and to the person... am i safe with these or should i add more??

FEONE

Is there anything which people are focusing on for directors duties?

lawgrad49

AA247 wrote: »

Thanks for that!

Re Question 2: what am I missing here? Ok freedom of expression? But there is obviously another topic in this?

Question 5: is this just right to property and livelihood?

Question 8: what is this?

I think that paper more than any seems to reflect how this examiner is so topical with his questions. Question 2 is FOE yes but it also talks about a preliminary enquiry so you have to know all about Shatter v Guerin from 2019 and Fair procedures when it comes to a prelim enquiry.

Then Q8 is a mixed bag but again if you covered the case of AC V Cork Uni Hospital (2019) you'd be on the right track as it's wardship, capacity etc.

FYI, I had similar questions to you when first looking at those questions but the NBN 2020 & recent video cleared up a lot. The Lecturer in that video basically says if you didn't know Shatter v Guerin you were kinda screwed. I would deffo advise you to watch it in advance of the exam- I watched it yesterday and I'm going to focus on some of the new cases he highlighted to fill up my last weeks prep.

ruby1998

AA247 wrote: »

Thanks for that!

Re Question 2: what am I missing here? Ok freedom of expression? But there is obviously another topic in this?

Question 5: is this just right to property and livelihood?

Question 8: what is this?

Didn't sit the exam myself but im thinking fair procedures is involved in Q2,
Q5 - management of natural resources, property livelihood and it's a criminal offence so maybe an aspect in trial of due course of law is it a vague offence? idk,
Q8 - liberty being detained on mental health grounds, could throw in some personal rights here like being observed so maybe right to privacy, right to bodily integrity, maybe also fair procedures right to be heard, was his detention a proportionate response, maybe locus standi of the sister sorry I'm not too sure on this one.

hope my random thoughts don't confuse you further lol

2020FE1

Lawabc wrote: »

Could you share what your course said are the most important topics?

City didnt really give an opinion either way on most topics except for pointing out some recent cases. But did tip the houses of the Oireachtas if memory serves.

nicolesd

anyone got condensed notes on equality and property rights for constitutional law?? and or some sample answers for equality i can send law school workshop for this sitting for constitutional law in return?

Lawabc

Fe1user5555 wrote: »

I’m leaving it out, the constitutional course I did put it down in the lowest priority level for learning

Could you share what your course said are the most important topics?

AA247

kayleee123 wrote: »

Here you go - good luck

Thanks for that!

Re Question 2: what am I missing here? Ok freedom of expression? But there is obviously another topic in this?

Question 5: is this just right to property and livelihood?

Question 8: what is this?

Darragh12

Anyone have any predictions for Equity? Any topics the preparations courses have listed to be covered as a priority?

For me I'm doing interlocutory injunctions, mareva & Anton Pillar, tracing, specific performance, rectification, undue influence, propriety estoppel, charitable trusts, cy pres, the topics that come up in the notes questions, resulting trusts & secret trusts. If I have time: constructive trusts & trustees.

kayleee123

AA247 wrote: »

Can anyone outline what was on the November 2020 paper for Constitutional?

I did it but have no recollection of what was on it - not even sure I knew at the time which largely explains why I am repeating it

Here you go - good luck

AA247

Can anyone outline what was on the November 2020 paper for Constitutional?

I did it but have no recollection of what was on it - not even sure I knew at the time which largely explains why I am repeating it

Fe1user5555

nicolesd wrote: »

anyone leaving out houses of the oireachtas since it was up the last 2 papers or would that be unwise?

I’m leaving it out, the constitutional course I did put it down in the lowest priority level for learning

2020FE1

ihatethesea wrote: »

Ya I have a sinking feeling Liberty will come up again as a whole question because of the recent SC judgement but I just don't have time to add it! The course is huge its guna be a gamble for me tbh..

Its one of my last two exams to get into Blackhall in September and I'm losing faith big time

It’s my last exam too. And I’m trying not to leave much out, but it’s a struggle.
It’s not a predictable paper at all. You could make an argument for most topics if you look for it.
For me I think it’s getting to the time now where it’s best to focus on learning off what you have covered without adding more. That’s what I’m telling myself anyway. I’m not too confident though!