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How long before Irish reunification? (Part 2) Threadbans in OP

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Continuation of the How long before Irish reunification? thread.

Please note that all mod warnings, actions and threadbans from the previous thread carry across to here.

I have updated the OP of this thread with a list of threadbanned users, I would advise posters to check on this before posting in the thread again or a forum sanction will be imposed for breaching same.

If you want to discuss your threadban feel free to PM the banning mod (or myself if you can't remember who that is and I'll point you in the right direction).

Threadbanned Users:
blanch152
Randy Archer
Natterjack from Kerry
littlevillage

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Baggly

lurleen lumpkin wrote: »

Back to circular arguments and IRA whataboutery every 5 minutes then. What does he get out of trolling this thread relentlessly? He took the time to beg to get back in just so he can furnish us with his on this day the IRA nuggets and advise us on how British we are.

Mod

Dont post in this thread again.

Moderation is not up for discussion in this thread, folks. I can card and ban people all day if needs be.

lurleen lumpkin

Back to circular arguments and IRA whataboutery every 5 minutes then. What does he get out of trolling this thread relentlessly? He took the time to beg to get back in just so he can furnish us with his on this day the IRA nuggets and advise us on how British we are.

Fionn1952

Baggly wrote: »

Mod

After discussion with the user via PM, downcow's threadban is lifted.

Welcome back, Downcow. Despite our constant disagreements, I'd find the thread fierce boring without you to argue with.

A testament to solid moderation when these things can be resolved and we can move on.

Baggly

Mod

After discussion with the user via PM, downcow's threadban is lifted.

RobMc59

maccored wrote: »

i bet you would have called people born in India british too back in the day. remember that place where the british decimated and stole the linen trade from the 1830s on?

then again, 'british' is only a word. doesnt actually mean anything.

I`ve read this post a couple of times and still can`t work out what it has to do with Irish reunification,can you help me out here maccored?

maccored

downcow wrote: »

Those born in the north were born british but I guess most took up their offer to declare as Irish. Still british though.

i bet you would have called people born in India british too back in the day. remember that place where the british decimated and stole the linen trade from the 1830s on?

then again, 'british' is only a word. doesnt actually mean anything.

Brendan Bendar

jh79 wrote: »

Francie Brady, hasn't posted in any of the usual threads in a while.

Aah....poor Francie.... yes, hope the lad is Ok.

Prolific poster on ..well... Border Issues.

He’ll be back I’m sure.

[Deleted User]

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Francie who?

Francie Brady, hasn't posted in any of the usual threads in a while.

Brendan Bendar

jh79 wrote: »

How come Francie isn't posting these days?

Francie who?

ulster

jh79 wrote: »

How come Francie isn't posting these days?

Maybe he got fed up of the incessant trolling in this thread.

[Deleted User]

How come Francie isn't posting these days?

RobMc59

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Apart from being a Northern Ireland Unionist of the moderate variety, what has Downcow done to deserve being banned from this thread?

It would be a shame if this thread becomes just another echo chamber inhabited by hive minded posters.
Healthy debate and discussion with different points of view is good for all concerned I`d say.

BonnieSituation

Hamsterchops wrote: »

As a matter of interest, who gains and who loses out in the event of a "United" Ireland?

Who are the winners and who are the losers?

I guess GB is the real winner, with not having to maintain NI as part of the UK anymore, but what of NI themselves, would they be winners or losers after leaving the UK?

And what of us here in the South? Obviously we'd be in some kind of United Ireland heaven of for a short spell ... then the reality would set in, and I guess we'd have some king of massive hangover as it slowly dawn's on us that the reality may not be the same as the pipe dream

More wishy washy commentary. You have repeated this ad nauseam. We get it.

----
In other news of the wishy washy variety; Mícheal Martin showing off his innate political ability and his republican credentials again:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/taoiseach-pushes-back-against-calls-in-us-for-referendum-on-irish-unity-1.4511044?mode=amp

I thought the reference to Séamus Mallon was particularly apt, as if to infer that nationalists are to blame for partition and any violence before or since.

Hamsterchops

Baggly wrote: »

Mod

downcow, you are done in this thread. Dont post here again.

Apart from being a Northern Ireland Unionist of the moderate variety, what has Downcow done to deserve being banned from this thread?

Fionn1952

RobMc59 wrote: »

It also depends on who has to pay for a UI which would be expensive I imagine.

Save your lot a fortune though. Few big red buses be floating about with the savings written on the side soon enough, Christ knows you could do with it the way things have been going.

RobMc59

Hamsterchops wrote: »

As a matter of interest, who gains and who loses out in the event of a "United" Ireland?

Who are the winners and who are the losers?

I guess GB is the real winner, with not having to maintain NI as part of the UK anymore, but what of NI themselves, would they be winners or losers after leaving the UK?

And what of us here in the South? Obviously we'd be in some kind of United Ireland heaven of for a short spell ... then the reality would set in, and I guess we'd have some king of massive hangover as it slowly dawn's on us that the reality may not be the same as the pipe dream

It also depends on who has to pay for a UI which would be expensive I imagine.

Hamsterchops

bobbysands81 wrote: »

It’s precisely that attitude towards “Irishness” that will actually speed up a United Ireland.

As a matter of interest, who gains and who loses out in the event of a "United" Ireland?

Who are the winners and who are the losers?

I guess GB is the real winner, with not having to maintain NI as part of the UK anymore, but what of NI themselves, would they be winners or losers after leaving the UK?

And what of us here in the South? Obviously we'd be in some kind of United Ireland heaven of for a short spell ... then the reality would set in, and I guess we'd have some king of massive hangover as it slowly dawn's on us that the reality may not be the same as the pipe dream

Baggly

Mod

downcow, you are done in this thread. Dont post here again.

downcow

lurleen lumpkin wrote: »

Glad the penny finally dropped for you.

If you agreeing with me, is the penny dropping for me, then fair enough. Whatever works for you.

It’s a bit like the ira claiming they did not surrender when they supported the gfa and took up their british seats in Stormont

downcow

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

So the IRA were British. Gerry Adams is British. Martin McGuinness
was British.

Those born in the north were born british but I guess most took up their offer to declare as Irish. Still british though.

downcow

BloodyBill wrote: »

The only two guys that complain about anti Irish abuse in Britain are from Derry. The footballers McLean and Duffy. Its all abit odd.

Yeah it’s very interesting. To the best of my knowledge 100% of the ni nationalists who have declared to play for Roi come from derry. What’s that about?

lurleen lumpkin

downcow wrote: »

You have now got it. The penny has dropped.

It is a fact that someone like you born in Derry can be referred to as Irish from birth and can then identify as Irish pretty much as soon as you can write

Now we are in agreement

Of course if you want to be very factual, you were born in Londonderry, but derry is a logical shortened affectionate nickname for it

Glad the penny finally dropped for you.

downcow

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

This is it exactly. There is no point in trying to find a reasonable Unionism, the closest thing to it is Alliance party type neutrality.

Unionists should stop fooling themselves that Ireland was ever 'as British as Finchley' because no part ever was. They could paint every kerb in the north red-white-and-blue and put a Union Fleg on every lamppost and it would still be Ireland.

Growing up time for Unionism.

The phrase ‘british as finchley’ is silly and typically Maggie. It misunderstands the UK and misses the richness of our diversity. It would be just as silly to say it about Glasgow Cardiff or Leeds

Junkyard Tom

RobMc59 wrote: »

Weren't you originally from NI Tom?Which would make you British by birth.

Haha yeah, I have a UK birth cert, which makes me as British as Gerry Adams and James McClean.

You lads really are a hoot.

downcow wrote: »

I note your name. And it’s terrorists like the one you eulogise with your name

He was British, stop complaining about British people.

downcow

lurleen lumpkin wrote: »

The fact that someone like me born in Derry would be referred to as Irish from birth and then identify as Irish pretty much as soon as they could write does seem to be a pain the arse for you. It's something very straightforward that a lot of us here have been trying to tell you.

Maybe go away and try to understand that simple fact and when you come back you might have a bit more success trying to debate with people here.

You have now got it. The penny has dropped.

It is a fact that someone like you born in Derry can be referred to as Irish from birth and can then identify as Irish pretty much as soon as you can write

Now we are in agreement

Of course if you want to be very factual, you were born in Londonderry, but derry is a logical shortened affectionate nickname for it

downcow

bobbysands81 wrote: »

It’s precisely that attitude towards “Irishness” that will actually speed up a United Ireland.

I note your name. And it’s terrorists like the one you eulogise with your name, who ensured a UI (if ever) was delayed by generations.
Actually I wonder if I called myself Lenny Murphy or michael stone, would I be in contravention of the board rules? And to the best of my knowledge neither of those were thieves as well as being terrorists.

RobMc59

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

So the IRA were British. Gerry Adams is British. Martin McGuinness
was British.

Weren't you originally from NI Tom?Which would make you British by birth.

Junkyard Tom

RobMc59 wrote: »

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the most vocal on these UI/anti British threads regarding this subject are usually British by birth and have chosen to identify as Irish in later life.
Do you acknowledge that you were British by birth and have exercised your right to identify as Irish?

So the IRA were British. Gerry Adams is British. Martin McGuinness
was British.

BloodyBill

RobMc59 wrote: »

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the most vocal on these UI/anti British threads regarding this subject are usually British by birth and have chosen to identify as Irish in later life.
Do you acknowledge that you were British by birth and have exercised your right to identify as Irish?

The only two guys that complain about anti Irish abuse in Britain are from Derry. The footballers McLean and Duffy. Its all abit odd.

lurleen lumpkin

RobMc59 wrote: »

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the most vocal on these UI/anti British threads regarding this subject are usually British by birth and have chosen to identify as Irish in later life.
Do you acknowledge that you were British by birth and have exercised your right to identify as Irish?

Yes absolutely. I was British until my early twenties. Who are the other vocal ex-British in the thread?