Kingswood Rover wrote: » The last Central statistic report figs from up to any including the 3rd quarter of 2020 actually noted a drop in a number of crime categories, particularly burglary, assaults' and theft so no factual evidence to back up a rise in Youth Crime as of yet which is good. Irish Times article mon 21.12.21. The lockdown while a complete pain does not mean no structure Golf head, now please no red card for my reply from ya cos it will make me sad, i can live with a yella
Ollieboy wrote: » Lockdown is clearly over. I’ve got the week off and people everywhere and mixing. Numbers will not get any lower unless vaccine program is completed and that’s not happening any time soon. So lower numbers can’t be the target, hospital numbers is and that’s now low. Golf will be open along with most things outdoor next month and if not the govt may as well run for the hills because the only people obeying the rules is people that won’t take risks anyway.
Golfhead65 wrote: » I'm not against it either as its a lot safer playing footie or other sports outside as opposed to cramming 30 odd kids in a classroom, I'm a soccer referee and the league are not confident of "organised" leagues getting the go ahead anytime soon, Youth Crime rates will go through the roof as the young have nothing structured to do
B-D-P-- wrote: » But RTE reports Deaths with covid19 Not Death due to covid19,, Massive difference, If I was on my deathbed from cancer and was on my dying breath, if i contracted covid 19 in my final hours I would be one of their fancy scary death figures.
Seve OB wrote: » next time you are in coolmine take a spin around to the astro pitches there you'll soon see it is not LOI teams
bustercherry wrote: » Are they? We haven't had curfews and our 5km restriction is a bit more flexible than what was in for other European countries.
Golfhead65 wrote: » Probably LOI teams training I'd say, they are allowed and a lot of the teams rent out these astros, not saying it definitely was but it's most likely
RGS wrote: » That would be logical and sensible but our overlords cant see beyond blanket restrictions. The usual arguments against opening up are golfers/tennis players/ hikers cant be trusted to not stop for petrol/coffee going to their leisure pursuit. Maybe we should only allow electric cars owner play golf if they have a home charger LOL. ( PS just joking as I am an EV owner.)We know our restrictions are one of the harshest in the world and it appears we are the only country with construction effectively closed.
Lip Out wrote: » I got sent a video yesterday of a full match ( 11 v 11) being played on an astro turf pitch in south Dublin. They all had bibs on and several spectators watching. Takes place several times a week apparently. Infuriating that this is allowed to take place and we can't go out on 100+ acres of land as two-balls.
Monster249 wrote: » Why can't they go through every activity? They should be. This is more nuanced than blanket restrictions can allow for.
Kingswood Rover wrote: » WHO guidelines "A death due to COVID-19 is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness, in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID disease (e.g. trauma)" Once Co vid is a contributing factor its noted on the Death Cert. From what i have read the rationale being for Population Surveillance purposes which makes sense as this is a new disease in humans.
Russman wrote: » You're not wrong, and I'm not for a second arguing that golf "should" be closed, but golf is still wrongly perceived by a minority as the sport of the "elites". The hysterical howling over Golfgate last year only highlighted that. If it was allowed back too soon you'd have every crybaby on social media giving out about the politicians looking after their own while the rest have to suffer, bla, bla etc. etc. Compliance with other measures will likely drop as a result. Government can't possibly go through every single activity and make a ruling for it, they have to look at the bigger picture and unfortunately for us, whether I get to play 18 holes on 5th April or have to wait til May doesn't come into it for them. I hope were back in April and tbh I think we will be, but part of me still thinks 1st May more realistic.
Kiith wrote: » The science shows that golf is safe, along with pretty much any other outdoor, non contact activity. Anyone who argues that it "looks bad" that golf is allowed to open over GAA or whatever else should be shown that data, and told to jog on.
Kiith wrote: » And this sums up why this entire thing has been a debacle. Optics should have zero impact on any decisions that are being made. Optics are what have kept us in the longest lockdown in the world. The science shows that golf is safe, along with pretty much any other outdoor, non contact activity. Anyone who argues that it "looks bad" that golf is allowed to open over GAA or whatever else should be shown that data, and told to jog on.
Tempora wrote: » Government will not want golf opening with everything else staying closed purely from an optics perspective, even if golf is a very safe activity.
Russman wrote: » I still think we're good for golf on 5th April tbh. It is the right decision re the vaccine though, imagine they didn’t investigate it and it turned out to be an issue as they start the very high risk people...... AZ deliveries were up in the air anyway so a weeks delay won’t do a lot imo.
Kingswood Rover wrote: » Anti Vac heaven but new vaccines very often have teething problems and you gotta be careful. While suspending it now is a pain and just adds to general drudgery of getting through this it has to be done by national regulators to dispel any longer term fears and to keep the post Vaccine observation protocols relevant.
Bill Ponderosa wrote: » Foreright you've been so positive so far don't fail us now.
ForeRight wrote: » In the Indo today. These are the leaks I like to see.
