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Guinness Surger

EagererBeaver

Anyone know anything about Guinness Surger availability? Have seen videos of lads creating perfect pints at home using surger cans and ultrasonic jewelry cleaners as the activator. The official surgers were apparently 15 quid back in the day but are now going for 200 odd on eBay.

To be honest, I'd never even heard of the things but a bit of googling suggested they gave it up in 2009 and everything was discontinued. However Beershark has an ad for a 24 pack of "new stock". Can't find anything official about it being reintroduced but seems like plenty of people are getting their hands on it.

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MarkN

Got the €7.99 glasses in Lidl yesterday so had to try a surger can on a weeknight

Thundercats Ho

sharkman wrote: »

Tried it tonight by putting a tiny hole in the can , sucessfully got the Guinness out without the wigit activating . It worked perfectly in the surger unit but , but it diddnt taste the same ...

I'd imagine the taste to be the same as a regular widget can, but did the surger unit (using a widget can) create a better head / lacing / nicer mouthfeel vs just opening and pouring a standard widget can

sharkman

Thundercats Ho wrote: »

I'd imagine the taste to be the same as a regular widget can, but did the surger unit (using a widget can) create a better head / lacing / nicer mouthfeel vs just opening and pouring a standard widget can

Yes , using the can without activating the widget and then surging it gave a much creamier head which lasted a bit longer . However there was a noticeable taste difference (I believe) .

I believe the liquid in the Surger cans is originally destined for kegs where as the contents of the draught cans is separate and treated differently. Almost the same liquid but different levels of gas’s included in the canning process.

[Deleted User]

sharkman wrote: »

without activating the widget

Go on then, you've grabbed my attention. How is this done?

sharkman

Deleted User wrote: »

Go on then, you've grabbed my attention. How is this done?

I used a pin and gently poked a hole just below the lid of the can . Leaving the pin in to prevent a quick change in pressure in the can as this is what activates the widget .

Thundercats Ho

sharkman wrote: »

Yes , using the can without activating the widget and then surging it gave a much creamier head which lasted a bit longer . However there was a noticeable taste difference (I believe) .

I believe the liquid in the Surger cans is originally destined for kegs where as the contents of the draught cans is separate and treated differently. Almost the same liquid but different levels of gas’s included in the canning process.

Noticeable difference vs a widget can poured normally, or vs a surger can?
Did it taste a bit flatter, due to the gas being released do you reckon?

Lynk

BeerNut wrote: »

Can you describe what the difference is?

Theres no twang or bad aftertaste that you would sometimes get with the cans. The whole thing feels lighter for lack of a better word, I feel a mediocre or worse pint of Guinness has a weight to it and is a chore to get through, I was knocking back the surger cans effortlessly.

afatbollix

Jaaaaassssuusss

This thread is giving me an awful thirst

listermint

Lynk wrote: »

Why don't you try them yourself instead of being so bitter? (pun intended)

I had 3 cans of 500ml and followed it up with it 3 cans of Surger and there's a definite quality jump with the surger cans. I really wish this wasn't the case, I don't fancy shelling out 80 euro for a slab if I could just put up an 8 pack for 12 but jesus, there's no contest. I even did the widget trick just to test it out, the surger honestly makes no difference with the standard cans taste.

Because I won't spend 70 bills on a slab of Guinness whatever the origin.

Secondly as I said call my cynical all you like. I think given a blind taste test you'd become unstuck on your assessment.

Il await someone in here to do a real blind taste test

listermint

Lynk wrote: »

Theres no twang or bad aftertaste that you would sometimes get with the cans. The whole thing feels lighter for lack of a better word, I feel a mediocre or worse pint of Guinness has a weight to it and is a chore to get through, I was knocking back the surger cans effortlessly.

Would absolutely love to put you to the test.

The mind has alot to answer for with placebo effect. And one of them can be your brain justifying expenditure

sharkman

Blind taste test done , picked the Surger straight away .

listermint

sharkman wrote: »

Blind taste test done , picked the Surger straight away .

Words mean nothing. Need video and control.probably time get on to the Guinness guru. He appears to be open to being wrong.

Lynk

listermint wrote: »

Because I won't spend 70 bills on a slab of Guinness whatever the origin.

Secondly as I said call my cynical all you like. I think given a blind taste test you'd become unstuck on your assessment.

Il await someone in here to do a real blind taste test

listermint wrote: »

Would absolutely love to put you to the test.

The mind has alot to answer for with placebo effect. And one of them can be your brain justifying expenditure

Jesus lads, it's 80 euro, most of you have knocked that off in a ****e nightclub, I don't get the begrudging? I had 3 500ml cans, and I followed it with the surgers. There's a definite quality difference, I don't buy this blind taste bollocks being the litmus test.

listermint

Lynk wrote: »

Jesus lads, it's 80 euro, most of you have knocked that off in a ****e nightclub, I don't get the begrudging? I had 3 500ml cans, and I followed it with the surgers. There's a definite quality difference, I don't buy this blind taste bollocks being the litmus test.

Your not in a nite club. Your at home. It's not begrudging it's calling waffles on taste difference. It's placebo it's alot of money to spend.

As I said I'm in no doubt you wouldn't be able to pick between them.

Also it's your money who cares how you spend it. But k can equally say I don't think it's worth it.

EagererBeaver

How are we back to this discussion already ffs.

[Deleted User]

listermint wrote: »

Your not in a nite club. Your at home. It's not begrudging it's calling waffles on taste difference. It's placebo it's alot of money to spend.

As I said I'm in no doubt you wouldn't be able to pick between them.

Also it's your money who cares how you spend it. But k can equally say I don't think it's worth it.

Just let people enjoy what they want. It’s little enough anyone gets these days.

Lynk

listermint wrote: »

Your not in a nite club. Your at home. It's not begrudging it's calling waffles on taste difference. It's placebo it's alot of money to spend.

People regularly spend 80 or more on pints on a night out, if you want to go halves with someone it lowers the cost. Do I personally think its worth 80 euro if its for your own personal consumption? No, but that's me. If there's a demand in this country and its available for 50 I'd buy it regularly over the normal cans. You can't call it a placebo if you haven't tried it.

listermint wrote: »

As I said I'm in no doubt you wouldn't be able to pick between them.

Also it's your money who cares how you spend it. But k can equally say I don't think it's worth it.

Good for you lad. I'm telling you there's a difference, I've tried both, you haven't. Until you have how about piping down and leaving the thread? You have no experience with these cans, everyone who has so far has said they think there is, and every one of them that has has people like you lashing out at them for even suggesting there is. Cop on.

irish_goat

Mod: Right lads, it's Friday night, give it a rest and just keep the discussion to the cans and how to source them. No point going round and round arguing whether there's a difference in them or not.

scholes

Does anyone know if Guinness that comes in the Keg is carbonated or is it just flat. Is it just the gas that it is dispensed with that introduces the 70 %nitro and 30% c02 or is there already c02 in the keg and you just dispense then with the mix?

BigAl81

So further down the rabbit hole I went.

Just in case the new style Guinness glasses I had were affecting my Surger pints, I ordered the old style original proper pint glasses which arrived today.

After testing them I can say it improves the Surger pints even more and they are now 187% better than draft cans and 93.5% as good as a pub pint

The double bind phase three peer reviewed clinical trials have confirmed this.

sharkman

BigAl81 wrote: »

So further down the rabbit hole I went.

Just in case the new style Guinness glasses I had were affecting my Surger pints, I ordered the old style original proper pint glasses which arrived today.

After testing them I can say it improves the Surger pints even more and they are now 187% better than draft cans and 93.5% as good as a pub pint

The double bind phase three peer reviewed clinical trials have confirmed this.

Got myself a few Pint glasses from Lidl and am also impressed . Chilled the glasses for 5 minutes before pouring and the creamy head lasted half an hour . Was trying to drink responsibly ....

XsApollo

I have an original surger unit In a press at home from years ago. Used to get cans from the uk,but then I couldn’t get them anymore. I’d lick the Guinness stains off that unit at this stage, where are ye buying the cans?

BigAl81

XsApollo wrote:

... where are ye buying the cans?

Check out one of the first few pages in this thread, I believe Kyle can point you in the right direction

sharkman

XsApollo wrote: »

I have an original surger unit In a press at home from years ago. Used to get cans from the uk,but then I couldn’t get them anymore. I’d lick the Guinness stains off that unit at this stage, where are ye buying the cans?

Check out Book A Bar on facebook or Kyle on this thread . If your close to the Border theres an Offie in Jonesboro with pallet loads .

[Deleted User]

It's a farce that the stuff is brewed down here yet this is only available up north.

I could understand that they could have had a particular viewpoint up to 2019, but things have changed so much since last year, it would be fairly criminal if they haven't plans in place to either push this or similar for the home market.

The latest ad on the TV is about the cans so here's hoping it's a clue to the direction.

L1011

It's not canned in ROI. Then again, neither are any of the other Guinness cans!

BeerNut

scholes wrote: »

Does anyone know if Guinness that comes in the Keg is carbonated or is it just flat.

AFAIK it's the same gas mix in the kegs.

MIRMIR82

gilberto_eire wrote: »

It's a farce that the stuff is brewed down here yet this is only available up north.

I could understand that they could have had a particular viewpoint up to 2019, but things have changed so much since last year, it would be fairly criminal if they haven't plans in place to either push this or similar for the home market.

The latest ad on the TV is about the cans so here's hoping it's a clue to the direction.

Seemingly, the vintners assoc objected to them originally so that's why the don't see them here. Like you said, things have changed so hopefully that will change.

POBox19

JohnNightmare wrote: »

Dose anybody know where one would get a ultrasonic cleaner / jewellery cleaner in Dublin, the lidls in and around my area are sold out.

I just ordered one on AliExpress for 13€ from France, due in a couple of weeks. They call them Beer Foamers.

Sheep Shagger

POBox19 wrote: »

I just ordered one on AliExpress for 16$ from France, due in a couple of weeks. They call them Beer Foamers.

Anyone purchased on on Amazon and have a link?

Ya man Crossy from FM104 has some of the special cans from somewhere and has a video on his Instagram page.