recyclebin wrote: » To be fair to Mazepin, he has been accused of many things but doping hasn't been one of them as far as I'm aware, so not allowing him to represent Russia by WADA does not seem fair. Banning a whole country punishes the many innocent people.
recyclebin wrote: » It's not really a big F1 issue. It's preseason so not a lot else to talk about until testing starts!
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Am I the only one who thinks this isn't a big issue an can't find it in themselves to get worked up about it? If i were WADA then I'd be furious. Bit I'm not WADA, I'm just an F1 fan. I presume it shows Mazepin is thinking of buying the team from Haas, and I presume that means the FIA won't do anything to pick a fight with him. So unless WADA gets involved, they will go ahead with the livery. And as liveries go, it's ok, nothing spectacular one way or the other. Blue, white and red are fairly classic racing colours. I think it's just big marketing exercise for a team who has said it isn't going to develop this year's car and will focus on the next year. They won't have broken any rules until they actually race in the colours so this hubbub gives them guaranteed publicity until the first race at which point they could change the livery to something less obvious if they think they'll get done by WADA.
Infoanon wrote: » The FIA will not want to be seen to be going against WADA. Liberty Media as a quoted company has social responsibilities so it won't want to be seen assisting a perceived two fingers to the WADA ruling. Throw in some veiled threats by Haas of it quitting F1 - with the assumption that Mazepins father will buy it - and you can see that this is a big F1 issue.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Why would FIA not want to go against WADA? The fact that they have allowed thighs to go this far suggests they don't give a shyte.
mickdw wrote: » Sure Haas are only running the american colours. Whats all the fuss about
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Oh, now that you mention it, maybe it's the Dutch colours!
eviltimeban wrote: » Could be any of these really!
AMKC wrote: » I disagree. The Russian flag is the only one with the right blue in it. All the others are either a lighter blue or a darker blue. So yes similar but not the same
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Yeah this is it. There’s little else to chat about for now. Its fine to follow it for the soap opera aspect, but it’s really not a big f1 story. I can’t imagine liking or disliking Haas on account of having Russian flag colours.
Adamocovic wrote: » Maybe I'm just getting carried away with it but it's pushed me to disliking Haas completely. Not strictly because of it being a Russian flag but the overall road of events to this point. I already disliked Mazepin. I think he's robbed a seat from some much better drivers. Not only does it annoy me that he's been given the chance while being much less talented than others it also annoys me he's gotten it while being a pretty crappy person. His attitude and actions off the track are brutal and he hasn't done enough on the track to even begin to consider looking over it. And Haas rolled over to submission all due to his father's money. It already annoyed me how spineless they were with him and saying how he will just try be better. He shouldn't have been there and then straight away was in a scandal that was brushed aside. Now, already with all that crap his father is in so much control he can get an American team to change it's livery to represent the Russian flag so his son can race in that, since he can't fly the flag. It's outrageous in my mind and just completely shows from the culmination of events that the Mazepins will now control Haas as they see fit. People slag off Stroll, and tend to hate him, but say what you want he's at least shown to be a winner in the youths, hasn't any huge controversies and has the talent to be an F1 driver. More so his somewhat entitled attitude rubs people the wrong way, and his father securing his seat. Even his dad Lawrence is at least a racing fan. The Mazepin's in my eyes are so much worse. Nikita is a scoundrel. He'll easily be a villain of this season. And Dmitry is a corrupt shady business man with controversies following his dealings. It annoys me that Mick will be racing with them.
Pen Rua wrote: » Images & videos of the SF21, Ferrari's 2021 car, have leaked & are on reddit. It's different.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The picture I see is exactly the same with the Marlboro sponsorship turning yellow instead of black. Still with the same nose concept that everyone else is moving away from. Edit, I didn't see the black back.
Pen Rua wrote: » The Mission Winnow now looks to be bright green and th rear is transitioning to the "old" red. The big green splash is definitely weird.
duploelabs wrote: » How they get away with the Mission Winnow 'sponsorship' is beyond me
Jordan 199 wrote: » Ferrari launch at 1PM today. That will conclude the launches for another year.
Pen Rua wrote: » The big green splash is definitely weird.
Pen Rua wrote: » They don't get away with it, that's why it disappears between races.
