RandomViewer wrote: » So the same applies to the DUP/UDA?
blanch152 wrote: » The UDA were wrong to carry out killings, absolutely. Why would you think that I would say otherwise? It is difficult for some to understand this, but I consider the DUP and SF to be both sectarian parties. Only one of them is looking for my vote though.
blanch152 wrote: » https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/mary-lou-mcdonald-womens-day-post-sparks-row-40169424.html "A social media post by Mary Lou McDonald marking International Women's Day has backfired after dozens of comments were posted about IRA killings of women during the Troubles." Sinn Fein still have a lot to learn and a lot to apologise for. Women like Ann Travers, Mairia Cahill, Jean McConville, Breege Quinn and Sheila Stack, among many others, have been treated disgracefully by Sinn Fein and it would be timely on a day like today that an apology was made to all of them.
RandomViewer wrote: » FG want your vote and are quite happy to facilitate every whim of the DUP, SF signed up to the GFA the DUP hasnt , FG should have made that a redline in dealing with the DUP,
RandomViewer wrote: » You have to add FG and HepC, Noonans misogyny is legendary, you have to acknowledge that
blanch152 wrote: » In response to a social media post by Mary-Lou McDonald??????
[Deleted User] wrote: » Why is this thread continuing. Is it because of misogyny? Mary Lou is a woman after all.
blanch152 wrote: » That is just silliness. There is no evidence to back up that point in bold. Reaching out to those on the other side to listen to them is not being "happy to facilitate every whim". In fact, you are displaying quite a level of paranoia about FG engagement with the DUP. There is nothing to fear about it.
RandomViewer wrote: » You are picking and choosing victims, FG through trying to give money to cronies have been responsible for the deaths of many women, Noonans attitude to women still prevails among many FGers, Maria Cahill is no one's victim by the way,
RandomViewer wrote: » FG posters were on here defending Gregory"BLM" Campbell, Regina's comments that Loyalist victims got what they deserved also shows FG disregard for Nationalist lives,
wicklowstevo wrote: » do you ever post here without mentioning FG ? I mean if the thread wasn't a sf thread ..... or are you the designated party deflector ?
RandomViewer wrote: » She's a dissident republican who shagged her aunties husband , played FG like a fiddle
RandomViewer wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/damning-indictment-of-government-and-garda-but-collusion-is-unproven-1.399168
FrancieBrady wrote: » It's not 'reaching out' it is endorsing by being silent and having no issues with engagement and working with the DUP while they hold the, by far and away, the most endorsed party by Irish people in Northern Ireland at arms length. It is undefendable.
blanch152 wrote: » https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/allister-hits-out-at-sinn-feins-appalling-decision-to-block-the-lighting-of-stormont-for-victims-40164151.html "Sinn Fein have been criticised after vetoing an application to light up Parliament Buildings in memory of terror victims." Another own goal by Sinn Fein shows clearly why they are shunned by the majority of people and politicians. The disdain and disregard for victims shown once again is the answer to why this is. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail claim to represent nationalists and republicans. That means they see no need to reach out to others on their side, but unlike those others, they are prepared to listen rather than preach, as too many members and supporters of Sinn Fein tend to do.
FrancieBrady wrote: » SF out polled both FF and FG in the last election...did you miss that?
blanch152 wrote: » That only copperfastens my point. Sinn Fein had the highest vote in the last election and won the largest number of seats, but it was a good way short of a majority. Normally, you would expect the party in that position to form a government. However, to quote from my post "they are shunned by the majority of people and politicians" which is why they couldn't form such a government. I think many supporters of Sinn Fein have failed to realise that uncomfortable truth.
FrancieBrady wrote: » But they aren't shunned, they work in every electoral district across the island with all other parties. It is just the hypocrisy of the likes of FG to pretend otherwise. The electoral success of SF just frightens the life out of FF and FG. FG would prefer to 'reach out' to the DUP. That's the bottomline here.
blanch152 wrote: » When it comes to serious business, they are shunned. No question about that. Clinging to the idea that others talk to them about the number of traffic lights required in a village is cold comfort. I can see no reason why FG should reach out to Sinn Fein. Between them, FG and FF represent more people of a nationalist viewpoint than Sinn Fein. It also makes sense for the DUP to reach out to them. And let us remember, that FG conference that bugs you so much saw FG reaching out in equal fashion to the Alliance and SDLP. Sinn Fein can't even get on with moderate parties like them.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The Alliance and SDLP require no 'reaching out to' blanch and you know that. Between them FF and FG represent an ever decreasing share of the vote. That should tell you that sooner rather than later it will be others turn to reach out to FF and FG. Who will likely still be muttering about events 20 or 30 years ago, while ignoring their own pasts and what was done on their own road to power. The politics of hypocrisy always catches up with you.
blanch152 wrote: » We all have our dreams to cling to, and you can hold on to yours, but Sinn Fein are not in government, and, if anything, are moving further away from such a place.
FrancieBrady wrote: » My only 'dream' is the breaking of the power swap, whomsoever does it.
walshb wrote: » SFs latest crucially important crusade: why RTE showed an interview This smacks of nothing but anti Brit!
FrancieBrady wrote: » Fair question: Why spend 10,000 on something that could easily be seen by anyone with an interest in it.