thecomedian wrote: » I just asked you a question. Do you know how many people got COVID from playing golf?
GreeBo wrote: » Hey man. sure all sport is exercise, but all exercise isnt and doesnt have to be sport. The government arent trying to allow everyone to play sports, they are allowing everyone to exercise by keeping public spaces open to those within 5km. These are two totally different things! There are a million things that could arguably be still done safely, but thats not what happens during a lockdown, would you like hundreds of thousands being spent on quangos to give guidance for every single passtime during each lockdown level? I sure as hell wouldnt. This is a world event, being allowed to exercise during a lockdown is a "privilege", being allowed to do whatever exercise you want isnt a right.
RGS wrote: » Greenbo as others have stated you put in place rules that are logically and easily implemented. What was proposed was idiotic.
GreeBo wrote: » Right, which is what the 5 lockdown level rules are. We then tried to apply golf under those rules and it didnt work out too well, but as I said earlier, if the option is no golf, I'd still rather the 2 household rules. Who are you blaming for the idiotic rules? Gov, Nphet, Sport Ireland, Golf Ireland, etc? Each of them is operating at a different level and operates under the rules they are given from above.
Break80 wrote: » Hey Man. Is there any exercise that isn't sport? Even a casual walk could have an element of competition as you will try cover the same distance quicker the next time.
Break80 wrote: » No. I wouldn't like hundreds and thousands spent on guidance. It is obvious to most.
Break80 wrote: » Your last paragraph contain 3 words which has me worried for you to be frank. "allowed" "privilege" "right"
GreeBo wrote: » Its a bit like being allowed to drink water during a drought and you arguing that you prefer to drink Guinness so why cant you have Guinness instead!
RoadRunner wrote: » But I prefer Guinness Guinness is also boiled during production and is provably safer than the alternative of tap water during a drought which is likely to contain impurities or pollutants. I think that you think that we don't think that Covid is serious. Look, we all agree that Covid is serious, we just don't think that resorting to useless activities like self-flagellation or by simply declaring that everyone needs be happy with tap water actually helps a jot. Where there's no risk to me or others - mine's a stout :cool:
GreeBo wrote: » You can prefer Guinness all you want, but if its not available then you are getting water. It almost seems like some people would take it better if all public spaces were closed...which is an attitude I dont understand to be fair, I will take what I can get, be that the park, 2 household tee times or casual golf only over sitting at home in total lockdown!
thecomedian wrote: » So how many got COVID from playing golf?
gypsy79 wrote: » Just on COVID. Sweden's excess mortality has increased by just 7% this year So before COVID, a 50 year male had 0.63% chance of dying over next year. That increased to just 0.675% due to COVID ignoring age and co-morbidities. The rise in actual mortality is actually less than this as it effected older people more
GreeBo wrote: » I'll do a deal with you, you tell me the relevance of the question and I'll give the answer, as its totally irrelevant imo. You are clearly and painfully going to rehash the old stuff about "no one gets covid playing golf and so golf should be open" and that has been dealt with numerous times. The country is open for essential things only, golf is not essential ergo golf is not open, its not complicated!
benji79 wrote: » I think the school situation is going to have a big bearing on everything. If it looks like that’s increasing numbers could see lockdown extended. Heard there’s already 14 cases reported from special schools. And I know a local secondary school in Cork has an outbreak and they’re only back since Monday. I’m looking to join a new club , the way it’s going it could be 2022 by time I get going
GreeBo wrote: » I will take what I can get, be that the park, 2 household tee times or casual golf only
thecomedian wrote: » It was a simple question to someone who gave me a smartass answer and said you knew the number. So I take it that you were wrong and you don’t know the number.
RoadRunner wrote: » Me too, for a while, but when the dust settles there comes a time to ask questions, like is the correct group getting hurting here for no gain (or negative gain). You think these are questions that shouldn't be asked?
GreeBo wrote: » It was a smartass answer to a smartass question. The reason behind your question is as transparent as glass.
Seve OB wrote: » Greebo do you just post on boards these days because the golf course is closed? I won’t lie, I’ve been sticking a few posts in here and there to get a rise out of you but you are becoming tiresome & boring me now.
thecomedian wrote: » It was a serious question. I thought you might have known since you were arguing against courses being open. You said you knew but you don’t, so you were wrong with your answer.
GreeBo wrote: » Ah so trolling, I'd expect you'll be getting a card then huh?
GreeBo wrote: » ok, so what was the point of the question? Lets say the answer is 2, what's your response? Lets say the answer is 2,000, is your response any different?
thecomedian wrote: » Of course it makes a difference, seriously what’s wrong with you. If it’s 1 or 0, then there’s no risk in playing golf. If it’s 2000 then there’s no way the courses should be open.
GreeBo wrote: » Sigh, which is exactly the response I expected and has already been dealt with! I already asked you how much time and money you want the government to spend analysing every aspect of Irish social lives to come up with a fool proof plan during covid. Btw, when I said "it didnt work out too well" I was referring to playing golf under the restrictions, not to golf spreading COVID! I thought that was clear if you read the entire sentence? "We then tried to apply golf under those rules and it didnt work out too well, but as I said earlier, if the option is no golf, I'd still rather the 2 household rules."