ShyMets wrote: » No it has not. Beyond posting on Boards you have never specifically outlined what you are doing to effect change.
Rosita wrote: » It's an opinion as to what might happen. That's all. It hard to back up a supposition about the future with hard facts. You are entitled to explain why you think it wouldn't happen.
ArielAtom wrote: » It's the ultimate in whataboutery!!!!! Never answers a question. Rinse n repeat. All their arguments have been busted, a bit like Connellan and his ill prepared debate that he was unable to get to congress this year because of poor planning. But it is amusing to watch the ramblings of a few people on a chat forum who honestly think that posting here is going to affect a decision made at congress. Being a member of the GAA is a start. Some are even to ashamed of their own county to admit where they are from.
Enquiring wrote: » You're the poster who claimed the funding was just for primary school children and was only in operation from 2007-2017. And you're talking about ill prepared and busted? Priceless.
Enquiring wrote: » It's obvious that the funding talk really stings some Dublin supporters. If it didn't, why would they abuse people and throw their toys out of the pram when this gets raised by anyone in the media? What needs to be pointed out is that this is not an attack on Dublin, splitting Dublin is necessary for the health of our games and it has huge benefits for Gaelic games in our capital as well. Obviously with the true extent of the funding disparity revealed, some will put an asterisk beside titles won by teams under the Dublin GAA banner. It definitely takes away from any titles won, that's for sure but it's no excuse to abuse these people. They didn't force Dublin to take the money and had no role in awarding it. The anger should be directed at those behind the decision.
Enquiring wrote: » Your opinion is that Dublin will cease to dominate the football championship as one county despite ever increasing resources yet you think the 4 counties after the split will dominate. I don't think much explanation is needed to dispute that in fairness.
ShyMets wrote: » Personally I'm not stung or throwing toys out of a pram. As I've stated before I can see Dublin being spilt and amalgamations happening. I can also see the GAA becoming semi pro.
Rosita wrote: » I never suggested that Dublin will cease to dominate. I just think that Dublin might lose occasionally in the future and another team outside of Dublin could win the championship. I think if you have four teams in Dublin it's very hard to imagine, given how poor most county teams are, that this possibility isn't reduced. To make it less abstract, you would probably move Galway from maybe seventh best team in the country to eleventh best at the stroke of a pen by creating four teams in Dublin. By all means support the creation of four teams in Dublin, but don't delude yourself about the consequences in competition terms.
Enquiring wrote: » You missed the part where every county will be given appropriate funding? We have seen the difference it makes to the standards of counties that would be considered minnows.
Enquiring wrote: » You missed the part where every county will be given appropriate funding? We have seen the difference it makes to the standards of counties that would be considered minnows. Dublin hurlers would be considered so prior to the funding. Only one title across the board in the 20 years prior to funding, they won 14 titles at club and inter county level post funding. That would have been unthinkable pre cash injection. The same will happen if teams are given resources. And that's just for minnows, the middle ranked teams will also rise.
superbluedub wrote: » Its also obvious the the split Dublin in 4 followers , dont like hearing the so called split will not happen for a very long time if ever and get very sulky when they hear how good this Dublin team is. .
Rosita wrote: » . Counties? Which counties?
tritium wrote: » On twenty years time the record books will list this dublin team as the greatest Gaelic football team of all time No asterix, No footnotes Simply the best, a team that none of their peers could match and one that changed the way the game is played for the better. A mix of incredible skill and resilience that made their own success story on the field of play
Enquiring wrote: » Well of course you'll say that but there are others that will say the asterisk will remain there and use the evidence that it wasn't just the Dublin footballers. It was across the board. Dublin ladies, men's hurlers, underage hurling and football, club hurling and football, they all improved when enormous funding came on board. It's hard to deny the link there.
tritium wrote: » You’re a bit late on the appropriate funding, the GAA have been putting that in place for a number of years now! -118 gd personell for the rest of Leinster and rising, millions of euros invested by the GAA. I reckon we’ll see the improvement in Leinster soon enough for example and also in the north through gaelfest. I for one can’t wait, new challenges for this dublin team to face and grow from. I hope they pass with flying colours just as they have time and again against Mayo Kerry and Tyrone, but I know at the same time the margins will keep getting finer
ArielAtom wrote: » I see the post you are responding to has resorted to accusing Dublin supporters of abusing people. Really sinking to the bottom of the barrel with this form of personal accusations against Dublin supporters. Says more about the base of their argument than anything else. Play the ball not the man.
Enquiring wrote: » As we've discussed, it's limited to a few counties including Dublin. Strange that you think it will have an effect on elite levels in other counties though, you don't think it helped Dublin at all.
tritium wrote: » I’m just following the logical steps of your argument. Obviously it doesn’t work perfectly, for example Kildare or Meath failed to win an all ireland in 2014, ie before the project started, but we’ll put that down to this exceptional dublin team mastering time travel ahead of schedule
Enquiring wrote: » Didn't John Connellan have to block you on twitter? You were far from the only one. Anyone who dares speak of the over funding of Dublin gets abuse directed at them.
Enquiring wrote: » You can see standards improving in the few counties receiving extra funding soon. But you deny the improvements caused by the over funding of Dublin for 2 decades I think that says it all about your argument.
dobman88 wrote: » How many did John block and why isn't he interested in a debate? Is it because he is consistently ill prepared?
tritium wrote: » Your argument defies the laws of physics I think that says it all about your argument
"The current GAA player experience and pathway of a child in a school or club in Dublin is so far superior, they are disproportionately funded per head compared to a child in a school or club in Athlone or Tullamore," he said. "Why is that acceptable? All we're asking for is that no longer are the Dublin schools funded so disproportionately at the expense of the clubs and schools down the country.
Enquiring wrote: » You would have to ask John Connellan. I'm sure you condemn the abuse he's received though? He shouldn't have to block people on Twitter for voicing his opinion.
