Red Silurian wrote: » Limerick leader reporting dozens of students congregating, videos showing about 60 odd from what I can make out, RTE reporting gardaí have arrested 3 people So by my maths there's a 1 in 20 chance of being arrested for breaking COVID guidelines? I think I've found the problem...
breezy1985 wrote: » The Garda statement "Three people were arrested at the scene, two men in their 20s for public order and one for misuse of drugs. About 30 fixed payment notices for breaches of the Health Act (Covid regulations) were also issue"
Red Silurian wrote: » Your saying it's a copycat of the 'protest' on Sunday? You might have a point there... I laughed when I read the term 'breakfast meeting' it's like this is a big problem but it can wait until tomorrow
Red Silurian wrote: » Fixed payment notices that will probably go unpaid, and we were doing so well, only 11 cases notified in Limerick today
Cookiemunster wrote: » And what difference exactly do you think it's going to make by having a meeting tonight? I'm not sure what they can actually do to stop people doing as they like off campus.
breezy1985 wrote: » Is non payment of fixed payments relating to Covid common?
bazz26 wrote: » There is a video going around facebook of these little degenerates and their feral antics. A gang of about 60 with booze and fireworks set off out in the middle of the street in College Court. Not a mask to be seen and zero social distancing. Utter Generation me ballbags. I also don't agree that the University shouldn't or cannot do something just because they are not on campus. They are dragging the University's name into the gutter with their childish antics irrespective of being on campus or not. If they are identified as attending the University then they should be expelled and made an example of for the rest.
Red Silurian wrote: » It would show a sense of urgency about the situation which I think would send a powerful message
Red Silurian wrote: » It would show a sense of urgency about the situation which I think would send a powerful message That I'm not sure of, I heard back at the start of February of 6 cases coming before the courts for non payment of a non essential travel fine within 28 days... So that would suggest that some of the first people to get those fines were not paying them In fairness as a former student (and a former child) I'd probably be doing the exact same thing 13 years ago and fake names and addresses to the cops weren't unheard of either
breezy1985 wrote: » Again if you or anyone else is caught outside your 5km or hanging round town with people not from your house (both of which are being done every day by people who are neither students or travellers) should you be made an example of and sacked from your job
jpharvey wrote: » The Irish Times report is even more damning. What can the Guards and UL really do?https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/three-arrested-as-garda%C3%AD-break-up-street-party-in-limerick-1.4499589 I can't imagine living out there, the residents must be absolutely furious and very worried. Mammies Day (two weeks, incubation period etc.) will be interesting.
Red Silurian wrote: » If they subsequently contract COVID then it would make people think twice before breaking the rules I'd think
breezy1985 wrote: » Same for the students no? People are all big talk about punishments and sending "all students home" cause they are a definable group that isn't the general population.
bazz26 wrote: » These people were not just hanging around having a chat, they were participating in a street party which is forbidden under current Level 5 restrictions. And if my employer was associated with that carry on and I as an employee was identified from a video on social media then yes there would be an inquest and I could face disciplinary action if my actions contributed to bringing their name or image into disrepute. My employment has plenty of fine print around such matters and take such matters very seriously. Just because these delinquents were not on campus doesn't mean they should not be made accountable by the University.
breezy1985 wrote: » So now you get to decide which illegal gatherings are ok and which are not. The students should rightly be punished but using the exact same laws and standards as any other adult
bazz26 wrote: » I'm not sure where you derived that from. You asked me would I be sacked from my job for doing similar and my answer was yes, I would be sacked if the company I worked for was associated in the public domain through my actions irrespective of whether I was on company property or not. Same goes for anyone else including students on or off campus. The reputation of the University has been dragged into the gutter through association with these dopes and appropriate action needs to be taken against them, the same way if it were their employer.
phog wrote: » I know the laws might have been changed but was there anyone charged for the street "party" that was held on a section of Catherine St during the original lockdown? Was there anyone demanding that they be sacked from their jobs or people who are renting here be sent home?
bazz26 wrote: » If students were just hanging around having a chat same as others then they should be rightly fined the same as anyone in breach of restrictions. However these students were not hanging around having a chat, they were at an organised street party with booze, drugs and fireworks. Do you not see the distinction? The University can and should act on the second as it's harming their image and reputation.
Red Silurian wrote: » Irish times are like RTE, they don't like students or Limerick, gatherings of about 60 students in the treaty city was always going to be a winner for their news How much airtime did the gathering of 150 people at a graveyard last week get from the Irish Times or RTE?
Yurt! wrote: » On the sliding scale of Covid muppetry (which ranges from 0 to 10), attending a funeral of a loved one or friend is about a 0.5, and having a party overflowing onto the streets with fireworks is comfortably an 11. Shoe gazing about the Irish Times' attitude towards Limerick or students (which I have genuinely never noticed) is misplaced in this instance.
Munsterman12 wrote: » Such an easy problem to solve but this is Ireland, everything is left to someone else. Nobody mentions the landlords responsibility. Absolutely no security except the guards when they are called.